Met someone from Russia wanting to work and study in the US.

fuzzybabybunny

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Her name is Anna and she's 21. She graduated with a degree in Law from Russia. She has always wanted to live in Colorado and study international law in the United States. A year ago she came to the US on a temporary work visa. During that time she worked as a camp councilor in Minnesota and now she works in Sequoia National Park busing tables. Her Visa expires Oct. 1. She would really like to go to Colorado University in Denver, but they require that all foreign students have $15,000 in the bank before they can be accepted. She currently has around $4,000.

So she needs to work and save up some more.

I'm just curious about how the system works. Once the temporary work visa expires, she can apply for a tourist visa. When she has this tourist visa she can apply for jobs, and then the employer that hires her can upgrade her visa to a work visa? Once she gets the work visa and saves up $15,000, she can apply to CU (she graduated with honors back in Russia), and when she gets in the university will give her a student visa?

Does it detriment the hiring company in any way to get a work permit for her? How can she improve her chances of being hired by someone who will give her a work permit? Sequoia apparently no longer gives out work permits to internationals.

I'm probably missing a lot of details.
 

JEDI

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u know the rules...

PICS?!

and unfortunately, she's legally screwed. but she can stay as an illegal
 

SagaLore

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Um...

Well I'm still finishing up a visa for my wife, but hers is a K1 visa - not a tourist or work visa. And she's from India. I have NO idea what is involved for a student visa in Russia. So start here:

USCIS student visa
 

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Um...

Well I'm still finishing up a visa for my wife, but hers is a K1 visa - not a tourist or work visa. And she's from India. I have NO idea what is involved for a student visa in Russia. So start here:

USCIS student visa

Yeah, that's the problem. She can probably get a student visa, but she must be enrolled in the college first. To be enrolled, she has to have $15K in her account. She only has $4K, which means she will have to work. To work legally, she needs a work visa. She's got a H-2B visa which is expiring in October, and I don't think it can be renewed.

Which comes first, getting the work visa and then apply for the job, or apply for the job, and then have the employer get the work visa for you?
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Um...

Well I'm still finishing up a visa for my wife, but hers is a K1 visa - not a tourist or work visa. And she's from India. I have NO idea what is involved for a student visa in Russia. So start here:

USCIS student visa

Yeah, that's the problem. She can probably get a student visa, but she must be enrolled in the college first. To be enrolled, she has to have $15K in her account. She only has $4K, which means she will have to work. To work legally, she needs a work visa. She's got a H-2B visa which is expiring in October, and I don't think it can be renewed.

Which comes first, getting the work visa and then apply for the job, or apply for the job, and then have the employer get the work visa for you?

Why does she save up the money while she is in Russia? Its going to take a long time to get a work visa, and yes she needs a company to sponsor her.
 

theknight571

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I think... key word is "think" :)... she'd have to find someplace that would hire her on an H1 Visa... Can she prove she has a law degree? Perhaps the school can place her in a position first... then she could enroll later.

I'd have her call the ISSS department at CU... http://www.colorado.edu/OIE/isss/index.html they'd be able to better help.

Once she met the schools admissions requirements the process, as I understand it is:
1. Apply and get accepted
2. School issues an imitial I-20
3. Student takes I-20 to local US embassy (typically student is still abroad) and applies for / receives visa... usually F1 Visa for students
4. Student uses visa and I-20 to enter the US and is then issued an I-94 upon entry
5. Student takes all immigration documents (passport, I-20, visa, I-94, etc) to ISSS office upon arrival and a "continuing" I-20 is issued.
6. Student pays for health insurance and SEVIS fees (at least at the school I work at) and then they can register.

I could be leaving something out... I've only been working in this position 3-4 months... and I'm the IT guy... so I don't deal directly with the students.

But someone in CU's ISSS department would be able to direct her.
 
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Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Um...

Well I'm still finishing up a visa for my wife, but hers is a K1 visa - not a tourist or work visa. And she's from India. I have NO idea what is involved for a student visa in Russia. So start here:

USCIS student visa

Yeah, that's the problem. She can probably get a student visa, but she must be enrolled in the college first. To be enrolled, she has to have $15K in her account. She only has $4K, which means she will have to work. To work legally, she needs a work visa. She's got a H-2B visa which is expiring in October, and I don't think it can be renewed.

Which comes first, getting the work visa and then apply for the job, or apply for the job, and then have the employer get the work visa for you?

If she can show proof of financial aid (such as a loan from a bank here or in Russia) or a copy of her parents' bank statements showing at least a year's worth of tuition, most international offices should accept it.
 

bctbct

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How the system works

She gives sob story, promises of sex

You give money, no get sex
 

ponyo

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Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
marry her !!

He can marry her but I don't think she'll get her green card if his income is below the poverty line.
 

waffleironhead

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How the heck is she planning on paying tuition and room and board if she only has 4k? How much is foreign national tuition?
 

theknight571

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Originally posted by: waffleironhead
How the heck is she planning on paying tuition and room and board if she only has 4k? How much is foreign national tuition?

The estimates for annual room and board we give prospective students range from $30,000 for an undergrad to $75,000 for a Med Student.
 

Deadtrees

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She's from Russia. She has worked in U.S.A. She's now applying for Student visa.
That's not good at all. In fact, that's pretty bad.

First of all, getting a student visa is pain in the ass. Not only she has to have certain amount of money in bank, she needs to come up with tons of various documents from her/her parents.
Her parents' job, how much they have and paid tax...etc. All the tiny details about her family matters.

One of the biggest corncern of the immagration center is if this person who's entering U.S are going to work. You see, they want these students to enter U.S and spend money.
She has previous history of working in U.S. In other word, she's a pontential illegal worker. Now, that might be thinking too far but it's the way they think.


 

JakwoW

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Fuzzy . . . Danger. This sounds retartedly insane.

Edit: First time I read this I thought it was a scam. After a reread I realize you're just trying to find out info for her. On that front, I'm no help.

Hope it gets you laid though. ;)
 

UncleWai

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It's hard enough for a college graduate visa student to get work in US.
I think her choices are down to:
Burger flipper at $5/hour
Prostitute at $50-$100/bone assuming she is prostitute material

I really hope you are not considering lending her the $9000, if so you deserve to be scam. I can piece out a better sad oversea student story than that.