Mentally disabled teen gets 100 years for "sex abuse"

[racolvin]

Story here: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525751,00.html

From the article, the DA said ""I hope people will remember he committed a violent sexual crime against a little boy"

However nothing in the article mentioned violence of any kind.

It reads as if an older boy with the mind of a 6yr old (or less) got caught playing doctor with a real 6yr old. There's no mention of violence of any kind, like he was holding the kid down or threatened him, etc, etc

Some things about the justice system just escapes me....

 

[ElFenix]

i didn't even need to click on the link to guess it was here in texas. our criminal system absolutely fails when it comes to retards.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i didn't even need to click on the link to guess it was here in texas. our criminal system absolutely fails when it comes to retards.

Yeah you'd think they'd have some empathy.

 

[Patranus]

I don't want a violent person running around society, ESPECIALLY someone who doesn't know the difference between right and wrong. Someone who doesn't know the difference between right and wrong is significantly MORE dangerous to society.

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i didn't even need to click on the link to guess it was here in texas. our criminal system absolutely fails when it comes to retards.

Yeah you'd think they'd have some empathy.

Empathy has no place in the court room. The law is the law. Just because someone has a "special circumstance" doesn't mean they should get special treatment. EVERYONE has their own "special circumstance".

 

[Jaskalas]

Whether his is a threat to society or not, I cannot determine. Inherent in that decision is what I would do in this case.

There's no mention of violence of any kind, like he was holding the kid down or threatened him, etc, etc

A lack of details on part of the news reporter who wrote this article does not constitute proof of a negative. I find myself with very few facts about the case, other than he was found with a 6 year old.

 

[racolvin]

Originally posted by: Patranus
I don't want a violent person running around society, ESPECIALLY someone who doesn't know the difference between right and wrong. Someone who doesn't know the difference between right and wrong is significantly MORE dangerous to society.

Empathy has no place in the court room. The law is the law. Just because someone has a "special circumstance" doesn't mean they should get special treatment. EVERYONE has their own "special circumstance".

Did you read a thing, even the OP? There was NO mention of "violence" anywhere ...

 

[racolvin]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Whether his is a threat to society or not, I cannot determine. Inherent in that decision is what I would do in this case.

There's no mention of violence of any kind, like he was holding the kid down or threatened him, etc, etc

A lack of details on part of the news reporter who wrote this article does not constitute proof of a negative. I find myself with very few facts about the case, other than he was found with a 6 year old.

I agree with you there, this particular story doesn't mention it, which doesn't mean it didn't happen.

 

[Patranus]

http://www.google.com/hostedne...4qrscUG2t-KKgD98O27RG0

He received 2x 5 year terms PLUS 3x 20 year terms.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Patranus
I don't want a violent person running around society, ESPECIALLY someone who doesn't know the difference between right and wrong. Someone who doesn't know the difference between right and wrong is significantly MORE dangerous to society.

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i didn't even need to click on the link to guess it was here in texas. our criminal system absolutely fails when it comes to retards.

Yeah you'd think they'd have some empathy.

Empathy has no place in the court room. The law is the law. Just because someone has a "special circumstance" doesn't mean they should get special treatment. EVERYONE has their own "special circumstance".

Whoosh, that's the sound of my post going over your head.

 

[Ricochet]

Here's a real kicker.

Repeat child molesters and rapists have routinely received lighter sentences.

 

[Slick5150]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i didn't even need to click on the link to guess it was here in texas. our criminal system absolutely fails when it comes to retards.

Yeah you'd think they'd have some empathy.

Ok, that made me laugh.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Patranus
I don't want a violent person running around society, ESPECIALLY someone who doesn't know the difference between right and wrong. Someone who doesn't know the difference between right and wrong is significantly MORE dangerous to society.

Empathy has no place in the court room. The law is the law. Just because someone has a "special circumstance" doesn't mean they should get special treatment. EVERYONE has their own "special circumstance".

You are probably unaware at your primitive level of evolution that it is you who is running around in society with little understanding of the difference between right and wrong, that you have had any real understanding of right and wrong beaten out of you and supplanted by a kind of a kind of hideous, punitive, cruel and emotionally dead self-righteousness that taught you as a child that you were worthless unless you applied just such a self-hating remorseless standard to your own actions, which, of course caused you to not only become a schizophrenic in denial of your own evil, but also to be a prisoner in your own personal hell. It is for you, you poor sad sack of a human being, that Jesus died so you could be forgiven. You have been forgiven. Too bad you don't know it.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Empathy has no place in the court room. The law is the law. Just because someone has a "special circumstance" doesn't mean they should get special treatment. EVERYONE has their own "special circumstance".

and the law requires intent, which this kid is incapable of forming

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Yeah you'd think they'd have some empathy.

we usually just try to inflict ours on people from california by voting them into high office

 

[GroundedSailor]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Patranus
I don't want a violent person running around society, ESPECIALLY someone who doesn't know the difference between right and wrong. Someone who doesn't know the difference between right and wrong is significantly MORE dangerous to society.

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i didn't even need to click on the link to guess it was here in texas. our criminal system absolutely fails when it comes to retards.

Yeah you'd think they'd have some empathy.

Empathy has no place in the court room. The law is the law. Just because someone has a "special circumstance" doesn't mean they should get special treatment. EVERYONE has their own "special circumstance".

Whoosh, that's the sound of my post going over your head.

Hee-hee!! Good one!

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: racolvin
Story here: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525751,00.html

From the article, the DA said ""I hope people will remember he committed a violent sexual crime against a little boy"

However nothing in the article mentioned violence of any kind.

It reads as if an older boy with the mind of a 6yr old (or less) got caught playing doctor with a real 6yr old. There's no mention of violence of any kind, like he was holding the kid down or threatened him, etc, etc

Some things about the justice system just escapes me....

Well, I think I smell an election in the near future with this as part of the campaign propaganda. Of course they never convict the mentally retarded in Texas, they just get them labelled competent.:beer:

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: Patranus
I don't want a violent person running around society, ESPECIALLY someone who doesn't know the difference between right and wrong. Someone who doesn't know the difference between right and wrong is significantly MORE dangerous to society.

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i didn't even need to click on the link to guess it was here in texas. our criminal system absolutely fails when it comes to retards.

Yeah you'd think they'd have some empathy.

Empathy has no place in the court room. The law is the law. Just because someone has a "special circumstance" doesn't mean they should get special treatment. EVERYONE has their own "special circumstance".

Another mouth-foaming over reaction, who are you trying to inpress??

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: Patranus
I don't want a violent person running around society, ESPECIALLY someone who doesn't know the difference between right and wrong. Someone who doesn't know the difference between right and wrong is significantly MORE dangerous to society.

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i didn't even need to click on the link to guess it was here in texas. our criminal system absolutely fails when it comes to retards.

Yeah you'd think they'd have some empathy.

Empathy has no place in the court room. The law is the law. Just because someone has a "special circumstance" doesn't mean they should get special treatment. EVERYONE has their own "special circumstance".

I have to disagree with you on that one. There are some people that are incapable of knowing right from wrong. My very soon to be 8 year old daughter is a non functional Autistic child with mental retardation. She is physically 8 years old, but mentally she is less than 1 year old. She doesn't know right from wrong. she doesn't understand danger. She's a tactile person, she likes to feel things for the texture of it and thusly she grabs at stuff and people. Should she be sent to prison for touching a woman's boobs because she was grabbing at a necklace?
Everyone does have special circumstances and that's why we have jury trials and sentancings is subjective. Why is it one person will get 99 years for having a joint, while others get probation and a fine?
If doesn't say if the incident in the OP's article is a one time occurance that they counted each time he touched the 6 year old in one act, or if it was something that had gone on for weeks or months.

Though, I think the parents are lying when they say their son showed no signs of sexual interest. Retarded people are overtly sexaully typically act out those feelings.

 

[heyheybooboo]

*47* is like severely retarded, isn't it?

If not, it's really close - like the bottom rung of the 'special education' ladder. We're talking the bare minimum of self-care and communication skills and most likely with an underlying neurological disorder.

The best the kid could hope for is life in a group home with daily support and supervision.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i didn't even need to click on the link to guess it was here in texas. our criminal system absolutely fails when it comes to retards.

The kids lawyer, probably a court appointed public defender, needs to be disbarred for gross incompetence.

The real problem with the Texas Justice system, for anyone who is poor(let alone retarded), is incomptent defense attorneys in the court appointed system.

Court appointed lawyer in TX = extremely high chance you are going to get bent over and raped by the justice system.

 

[Robsasman]

Originally posted by: Patranus
I don't want a violent person running around society, ESPECIALLY someone who doesn't know the difference between right and wrong. Someone who doesn't know the difference between right and wrong is significantly MORE dangerous to society.

I always thought someone who doesn't know right from wrong was not guilty by reason of insanity or w/e.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i didn't even need to click on the link to guess it was here in texas. our criminal system absolutely fails when it comes to retards.

Yeah you'd think they'd have some empathy.

this texan laughed.

 

[chess9]

Texas still uses the McNaughton Rule:

"The "McNaughton rule" was a standard to be applied by the jury, after hearing medical testimony from prosecution and defense experts. The rule created a presumption of sanity, unless the defense proved "at the time of committing the act, the accused was laboring under such a defect of reason, from disease of the mind, as not to know the nature and quality of the act he was doing or, if he did know it, that he did not know what he was doing was wrong."

I'm assuming the defense put on evidence of mental defect and the jury didn't buy it. This suggests that juries in Texas are probably not sympathetic to this sort of defense. Does that surprise anyone here?


-Robert

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: Patranus
I don't want a violent person running around society, ESPECIALLY someone who doesn't know the difference between right and wrong. Someone who doesn't know the difference between right and wrong is significantly MORE dangerous to society.

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i didn't even need to click on the link to guess it was here in texas. our criminal system absolutely fails when it comes to retards.

Yeah you'd think they'd have some empathy.

Empathy has no place in the court room. The law is the law. Just because someone has a "special circumstance" doesn't mean they should get special treatment. EVERYONE has their own "special circumstance".

I have to disagree with you on that one. There are some people that are incapable of knowing right from wrong. My very soon to be 8 year old daughter is a non functional Autistic child with mental retardation. She is physically 8 years old, but mentally she is less than 1 year old. She doesn't know right from wrong. she doesn't understand danger. She's a tactile person, she likes to feel things for the texture of it and thusly she grabs at stuff and people. Should she be sent to prison for touching a woman's boobs because she was grabbing at a necklace?
Everyone does have special circumstances and that's why we have jury trials and sentancings is subjective. Why is it one person will get 99 years for having a joint, while others get probation and a fine?
If doesn't say if the incident in the OP's article is a one time occurance that they counted each time he touched the 6 year old in one act, or if it was something that had gone on for weeks or months.

Though, I think the parents are lying when they say their son showed no signs of sexual interest. Retarded people are overtly sexaully typically act out those feelings.

Absolutely not! However, if he were a boy (yet otherwise functionally identical), then lock him up for being a sexual predator.

 

[Modelworks]

The sentence will definitely be facing appeals. The length of the sentence is cruel and unusual punishment. It appears what happened here is that they made the teen out to be a monster. Probably playing on the way he talks and acts as an example to the jury that he is not to be trusted and is some kind of monster. People try to tell themselves that they treat everyone equally, but they still treat people that talk different or look different as someone to be afraid of, not much better than the townsfolk in Frankenstein movies.

I have a mentally disabled sister who is 39 now but has the mind of about a 8 year old. You can tell by her appearance that she has problems. Lots of people treat her poorly in public. She has a heart of gold though, she is a better person than 99.9% of the people on the planet. She doesn't see bad in anyone, not even those that make fun of her. She always wants to help in whatever I do . It is sad we still treat people like her with such hatred.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i didn't even need to click on the link to guess it was here in texas. our criminal system absolutely fails when it comes to retards.

Yeah you'd think they'd have some empathy.

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