Mentalist season finale
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Jane will still be in legal trouble for a couple of episodes next season so because they have to give it a token response not to openly condone murder. Jane can't really go and stay in jail or else the show is kind of over. With the ratings that they've been getting, I don't see them ending the show soon.
The show's kind of in a weird place now. They built up everything and now it's done? Jane's whole purpose in life is done and now I think it's tough to go anywhere now.
I really hope that was the real RJ, though. If they do a "that was a hallucination" or that was a minion or anything else, I'm going to be really annoyed. You can't really sustain a lame plot indefinitely. The plot was already getting tiresome.
Finally, Van Pelt is such a bad cop and dumbass. If you need a secret operation, you'll know she'll blab everything to anyone that flatters her. She should be fired but nothing's going to happen to her.
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gorobei
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i didnt have a problem with the episodes, other than it was obvious what the rope was for.
yes abrupt, most likely was real RJ. Still a ton of fallout and old RJ crap to work through (framing of hightower, braindead psychic girlfriend, laroche and his "secret") enough for another season if you add in the implied relationship with jane and lisbon. Disappointed that he didnt use the colt 1911 that hornrimmedglasses gave him at the start of the season.
As for the weird RJ wrap up, It may have been due to cbs' really late upfront. A bunch of shows have run through 2 seasons of central plot lines because they many have not know if they were getting renewed (nikita, bluebloods, chicago code). At least mentalist has always been moving towards this ending.
and yes vanpelt is dumber than grass. but so is rigsby. Cho da man.
yes abrupt, most likely was real RJ. Still a ton of fallout and old RJ crap to work through (framing of hightower, braindead psychic girlfriend, laroche and his "secret") enough for another season if you add in the implied relationship with jane and lisbon. Disappointed that he didnt use the colt 1911 that hornrimmedglasses gave him at the start of the season.
As for the weird RJ wrap up, It may have been due to cbs' really late upfront. A bunch of shows have run through 2 seasons of central plot lines because they many have not know if they were getting renewed (nikita, bluebloods, chicago code). At least mentalist has always been moving towards this ending.
and yes vanpelt is dumber than grass. but so is rigsby. Cho da man.
I'm betting its not RJ.
Either that or it is RJ and he lives. Jane shot him in the stomach so he could make it.
Just seems rushed. I always pegged RJ to be Janes dad or someone he grew up with/knew that did the same type of thing he did. Remember Jane was a con artist before joining the CBI so his skillset was brought up with criminals.
Either that or it is RJ and he lives. Jane shot him in the stomach so he could make it.
Just seems rushed. I always pegged RJ to be Janes dad or someone he grew up with/knew that did the same type of thing he did. Remember Jane was a con artist before joining the CBI so his skillset was brought up with criminals.
It was a new person to the show so no spoiler. It was played by Bradly Whitford
To use someone that has a known face I think he will be coming back. Either as a flashback or he pulls through.
To use someone that has a known face I think he will be coming back. Either as a flashback or he pulls through.
Thanks, also found a synopsis on wiki that explained what happened. Hope the confrontation was at least good!
It sounds like it all happened very sudden though. Like... over in 5 minutes.
It sounds like it all happened very sudden though. Like... over in 5 minutes.
Yea that plus who they got to play it makes it seem he is red john and will be back.
I was caught off guard by Jane shooting, seemed rushed. maybe as someone else said they, show, thought they were going to get cut.
I thought their ratings were still good for a 10pm show?
EDIT
Just saw on wiki they are still a top 10 rated show. So they should have known they were coming back.
My guess - he's not dead, but alive. Now, Jane is guilty of attempted murder, and they have nothing on this guy, at all. He's back out on the street, Jane has to deal with his attempted murder case AND they have to prove this guy's guilt, knowing how smart he is at avoiding leaving an evidence trail.
gorobei
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actually shooting Rj is very easily justified legally. He's a known serial murderer, armed, and likely to kill again. The call from lisbon to his phone connects him to the mole/murder attempt on hightower and leaves a solid evidence trail.
The main point that kinda got glossed over was that RJ finally made a mistake, was 2 steps behind as jane put it, and hadn't prepared much in a get away for that cafe. He wasn't going to contact jane, just be there to watch jane's reaction to the news of hightower's death. Everyone, i guess, was expecting some giant chess game of moves and counter moves that would lead to RJ arrest, but this kind of makes more sense. One sloppy mistake proves RJ's undoing. Not as dramatic as some might hope, but more realistic.
The main point that kinda got glossed over was that RJ finally made a mistake, was 2 steps behind as jane put it, and hadn't prepared much in a get away for that cafe. He wasn't going to contact jane, just be there to watch jane's reaction to the news of hightower's death. Everyone, i guess, was expecting some giant chess game of moves and counter moves that would lead to RJ arrest, but this kind of makes more sense. One sloppy mistake proves RJ's undoing. Not as dramatic as some might hope, but more realistic.
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After 3 shots in the stomach, I seriously hope RJ actually died...
Plus, I don't get how they determined the assassin was really going to room 505 when she entered room 705...
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assassin got off of elevator on 8th floor(where team was set up) went down fire stairs to 605 and entered. (605 was the room number given to cbi head. 505 was given to vanpelt's fiance). she set up equipment on bed and sat around for a bit. then she opened sliding door to balcony. team went in to take her down. post swan dive, team finds rope and handcuffs assuming that the assassin brought them to tie up hightower. You dont need rope for binding if you have handcuffs, therefore rope was for some other function: climbing down 1 floor to room 505.
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I don't think he'll face any real legal troubles for the reasons just given.
I liked who they picked as red john, he was doing a pretty good jobn at it and it felt like they were building for a next season conclusion, which made the way they ended it somewhat sudden.
As for ginger, not really her fault as at the time all tof he team thinks that they are setting the mole trap at the mall.
I liked who they picked as red john, he was doing a pretty good jobn at it and it felt like they were building for a next season conclusion, which made the way they ended it somewhat sudden.
As for ginger, not really her fault as at the time all tof he team thinks that they are setting the mole trap at the mall.
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That guy did a great job as RJ.
They can still do a lot of stuff, plotwise, with the RJ thing, even if he's dead. Is he or isn't he, backtracking his activities and motives, does Jane have PTSD or not, ad nauseum.
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That wasn't Red John. No way - the built up 4 seasons for a non-impactful 2-minute ending? Nope. Another player in Red John's chess game. When they pull his body, they'll probably find an earpiece or something on him. Then Jane will have to continue his search and deal with killing someone, and then have a chance for a redo. Or as Popwatch offered, maybe he'll believe it and Lisben will become the believer. Or maybe there's a bigger conspiracy - Malcolm McDowell (the white-haired dude from fantasy island) kept talking about stuff. Or maybe he's Red John.
I kept thinking Van Pelt was the mole, since she had red hair and was always in the office during outings.
I kept thinking Van Pelt was the mole, since she had red hair and was always in the office during outings.
Talking about Mentalist and Dexter (so technically can be a spoiler for both.)
Good episode otherwise.
What they did with Vanpelt and her fiance was too much like Dexter SE1...
Good episode otherwise.
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At the beginning of the episode,
I told my wife,
"He's either Red John, or he's the mole they've been looking for."
I agree that the ending was...odd...and I don't trust the producers and writers enough to believe that
...and I didn't like the way it played out.
We'll see.
when Van Pelt's FBI boyfriend gave her the locket,
"He's either Red John, or he's the mole they've been looking for."
I agree that the ending was...odd...and I don't trust the producers and writers enough to believe that
Jane actually shot Red John
We'll see.
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