Menendez has got some splainin' to do

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boomerang

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If we eliminate lobbying in it's current form (bribes) and eliminate career politicians, it shouldn't be that difficult. Server in office would be similar to an extended jury duty: a public service, not a career path. I suppose then the question of money is solved, as making a few hundred thousand for 4 years and that's it ain't bad for most of the country. The country would be better represented (similar to a trial bu jury). The only issue is how much can someone get done in 4 years?
Not being argumentative but just how in the hell do you think we would accomplish that? The people that make the rules are the ones that can change the rules. There might be a few newcomers after every election willing, but they don't have the numbers. The longer they walk the halls of Congress, the less chance there is of any changes being made.

The longer an individual in Congress holds their seat the more masters they need to answer to. Anybody that thinks Harry Reid had an accident while exercising is very naive. These people are very unwilling to relinquish their power for a variety of reasons.

A Convention of States is the only way to take back control of our government. But as every month goes by, despite more and more states coming on board, the stronger the federal government gets.
 

smackababy

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Not being argumentative but just how in the hell do you think we would accomplish that? The people that make the rules are the ones that can change the rules. There might be a few newcomers after every election willing, but they don't have the numbers. The longer they walk the halls of Congress, the less chance there is of any changes being made.

The longer an individual in Congress holds their seat the more masters they need to answer to. Anybody that thinks Harry Reid had an accident while exercising is very naive. These people are very unwilling to relinquish their power for a variety of reasons.

A Convention of States is the only way to take back control of our government. But as every month goes by, despite more and more states coming on board, the stronger the federal government gets.

I completely agree. We have build a system where the two options for fixing it are by force (not going to happen) or by the system itself (also, not going to happen). What idiot would put forth legislation that would hurt them?
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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I completely agree. We have build a system where the two options for fixing it are by force (not going to happen) or by the system itself (also, not going to happen). What idiot would put forth legislation that would hurt them?

You mean like those who have put forth campaign finance reform? Or you mean like laws essentially reversing citizens united?

Lol! Yeah that will never happen!

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/09/senate-block-campaign-finance-amendment-110864.html

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-acti...ns-block-constitutional-amendment-on-campaign

Both parties are the same though! /s


Be careful smackababy, I don't won't you to end up where boomerang is, so far up his own ass he doesn't even know what reality is.
 

werepossum

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Kinda shoddy reporting by CNN. A Washington Post article had more info: There were 19 plane trips in total... he paid for 2 after getting caught. And who "forgets" to pay someone $58,000? Also not mentioned is the fact that his buddy gave 600k to a PAC and had 300k of it earmarked for Menendez's reelection.

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That would be everyone in Congress.
 

Jhhnn

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Anybody that thinks Harry Reid had an accident while exercising is very naive.

Straight for conspiracy theory, of course.

Tell us how that fits with birther-benghazi, OK?

Like McDonnell, Menendez knew or should have known that he can't accept those kinds of favors from his friends.
 

boomerang

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Perfect timing by the administration. You've got to hand it to them. Menendez certainly won't be badmouthing the Iran deal that gave Iran everything they wanted now.

Chicago style politics - now on a national scale. Winner takes all, no holds barred.
 

dank69

Lifer
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Perfect timing by the administration. You've got to hand it to them. Menendez certainly won't be badmouthing the Iran deal that gave Iran everything they wanted now.

Chicago style politics - now on a national scale. Winner takes all, no holds barred.

Iran got everything they wanted?
 

Jhhnn

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Perfect timing by the administration. You've got to hand it to them. Menendez certainly won't be badmouthing the Iran deal that gave Iran everything they wanted now.

Chicago style politics - now on a national scale. Winner takes all, no holds barred.

Meanwhile, Iranian hardliners are probably claiming that Rouhani is giving away the farm to the Great Satan.

If one accepts the idea that all they wanted was to refine their own nuclear fuel & build reactors, then they did get what they wanted. If one believes that they were going for the Big One then the opposite is true.

Can't have it both ways. Well, other than in Right Think, where whatever the opposition wants is automatically opposed.
 

Jhhnn

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Well fuck look at all the concessions they gave about their enrichment and centrifuges and other shit. Never thought they would agree to that type of shit.

It's entirely consistent with a peaceful nuclear power program.
 

norseamd

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It's entirely consistent with a peaceful nuclear power program.

Yes but they also are building nuclear infrastructure and expertise for breakout if the strategic situation requires nuclear weapons for deterrence or defense of Iran.
 

Jhhnn

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Yes but they also are building nuclear infrastructure and expertise for breakout if the strategic situation requires nuclear weapons for deterrence or defense of Iran.

They've also agreed to greatly extend the time frame for such breakout by limiting the number of operational centrifuges, reducing stocks of enriched uranium & re-designing their Arak reactor.

It's an obvious expression of sincerity.
 

norseamd

Lifer
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It's an obvious expression of sincerity.

No I agree and the purpose is for the possibility of Iranian breakout and the de facto strategic influences from that instead of actually producing any nuclear weapons. Well the threats from the possibility of breakout are sufficient that it is worth just as much as producing nuclear weapons to the Iranians is one way of thinking about all this shit.