Men are Weak now: No longer a Man's World, Women dominate

[dmcowen674]

Men are Weak Now: No longer a Man's World:

Women are increasing in high Corporate positions, men on the decline.

Women are increasing in personal Net worth, men are on the decline.

Women are dominant in work, men can't keep one job for any kind of long period.

 

[Orsorum]

That is a VAST overgeneralization, unfair to both men and women; it also assumes that because a decline is occuring, that is a bad thing.

With that in mind, the statistics that show an unequal ratio of women to men in higher education does worry me. That indicates to me three things: first, that men are potentially ignored by secondary education systems as targets for college prep and interest programs (e.g. "Women/Minorities Career Day", these happened at my high school). Two, that men are failing to take responsibility for their own higher education, and three, that in a generation men may very well have few role models beyond sports stars.

I saw this in my high school, where the majority of honors students were girls, that girls were given free seminars for college prep, information about different careers, and so forth, while men were virtually ignored. It was frustrating to see some very smart young men I grew up with discard college as an option because they weren't interested.

There are some good books on this subject, I'll see if I can find some.

Cheers!
Nate

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Men are Weak Now: No longer a Man's World:

Women are increasing in high Corporate positions, men on the decline.

Women are increasing in personal Net worth, men are on the decline.

Women are dominant in work, men can't keep one job for any kind of long period.

Thank You Gloria Steinem

CkG

 

[Red Dawn]

Now that it takes two incomes to live moderately well for most families women doing better is a good thing

 

[alchemize]

Daily ramblings of Chicken Little now pass for Politics and News?

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Now that it takes two incomes to live moderately well for most families women doing better is a good thing

And if the woman does well enough, there is less work needed from me!

 

[Moonbeam]

Now that coroprate America has destroyed the family by creating a culture where two incomes are required to eat, it will just be a matter of time before our psychotic kids get us all.

"Isn't work ennobling!", said the monkey to the thief.

 

[MovingTarget]

Originally posted by: Orsorum
That is a VAST overgeneralization, unfair to both men and women; it also assumes that because a decline is occuring, that is a bad thing.

With that in mind, the statistics that show an unequal ratio of women to men in higher education does worry me. That indicates to me three things: first, that men are potentially ignored by secondary education systems as targets for college prep and interest programs (e.g. "Women/Minorities Career Day", these happened at my high school). Two, that men are failing to take responsibility for their own higher education, and three, that in a generation men may very well have few role models beyond sports stars.

I saw this in my high school, where the majority of honors students were girls, that girls were given free seminars for college prep, information about different careers, and so forth, while men were virtually ignored. It was frustrating to see some very smart young men I grew up with discard college as an option because they weren't interested.

There are some good books on this subject, I'll see if I can find some.

Cheers!
Nate

I agree with this. I have noticed the exact same things as you in high school/college. Men are virtually ignored sometimes when it comes to the extra attention women get in these cases. Even in early education, women are more encouraged nowadays to achieve more while men are left more to sports and such. That is probably why more women are honor students and now outnumber us at college. (I am a college honors student and am vastly outnumbered by females, not that I mind). It is sad in a sense, but I don't think it will continue too much. There was a show about one of these books on 60 minutes a while back that I saw. It stated that if current declines continue, the last man in america will earn his bs in like 2054 or something. I don't think things will get near that bad, but it goes to show the current situation of our decline in higher education. Maybe I can find a few direct quotes from this later.

 

[Pandaren]

Men are Weak Now: No longer a Man's World:
Women are increasing in high Corporate positions, men on the decline.
Women are increasing in personal Net worth, men are on the decline.
Women are dominant in work, men can't keep one job for any kind of long period.

I'm calling post and run on this one. There's no link, no evidence, no anything to back these statements up!

In any case, I do agree with Orsorum and MovingTarget that education systems in general put more emphasis on girls and women. I've read about this topic in newspapers and there seem to be a couple reasons for this trend (1) attempts to reverse the historic lack of emphasis on education for women (2) girls/women are easier to teach in a classroom setting, less likely to be classroom agitators (3) some men consider 'book learning' to be useless or unmasculine.

The Philadelphia Inquirer had an article on trying to keep minority men (mostly black and latino) from dropping out of college. Women belonging to the same minority groups did not have nearly as much trouble staying in school.

In my four years of college, I noticed that men outnumbered women in a ratio of 4:1 in computer science. In engineering it was more like 5:1 or 6:1 (causing no small amount of complaints by some of my engineering buddies).

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Pandaren

Men are Weak Now: No longer a Man's World:
Women are increasing in high Corporate positions, men on the decline.
Women are increasing in personal Net worth, men are on the decline.
Women are dominant in work, men can't keep one job for any kind of long period.

I'm calling post and run on this one. There's no link, no evidence, no anything to back these statements up!

In any case, I do agree with Orsorum and MovingTarget that education systems in general put more emphasis on girls and women. I've read about this topic in newspapers and there seem to be a couple reasons for this trend (1) attempts to reverse the historic lack of emphasis on education for women (2) girls/women are easier to teach in a classroom setting, less likely to be classroom agitators (3) some men consider 'book learning' to be useless or unmasculine.

The Philadelphia Inquirer had an article on trying to keep minority men (mostly black and latino) from dropping out of college. Women belonging to the same minority groups did not have nearly as much trouble staying in school.

In my four years of college, I noticed that men outnumbered women in a ratio of 4:1 in computer science. In engineering it was more like 5:1 or 6:1 (causing no small amount of complaints by some of my engineering buddies).

Thanks Pand, this was a discussion when I was down at Georgia Tech recently. It used to be completely dominated by men and now it is completely the reverse. Like you said from the male eyes is not a bad thing

How bout you folks in the Northeast at MIT has your numbers flipped flopped over yet?

 

[MovingTarget]

Originally posted by: Pandaren

Men are Weak Now: No longer a Man's World:
Women are increasing in high Corporate positions, men on the decline.
Women are increasing in personal Net worth, men are on the decline.
Women are dominant in work, men can't keep one job for any kind of long period.

I'm calling post and run on this one. There's no link, no evidence, no anything to back these statements up!

In any case, I do agree with Orsorum and MovingTarget that education systems in general put more emphasis on girls and women. I've read about this topic in newspapers and there seem to be a couple reasons for this trend (1) attempts to reverse the historic lack of emphasis on education for women (2) girls/women are easier to teach in a classroom setting, less likely to be classroom agitators (3) some men consider 'book learning' to be useless or unmasculine.

The Philadelphia Inquirer had an article on trying to keep minority men (mostly black and latino) from dropping out of college. Women belonging to the same minority groups did not have nearly as much trouble staying in school.

In my four years of college, I noticed that men outnumbered women in a ratio of 4:1 in computer science. In engineering it was more like 5:1 or 6:1 (causing no small amount of complaints by some of my engineering buddies).

It isn't a big difference, only an ever-so-slight one. This is just an observation anyway. However, these small trends do show up when you look at the bigger picture. Don't get me wrong, I'm not sexist or anything because I believe in a fair playing field for everyone. However, addressing historical inadequacies is something that shouldn't be done unless historical inadequacies=current inadequacies. Everyone deserves a fair shot to make something of themselves, no more, no less.

 

[dirtboy]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Men are Weak Now: No longer a Man's World:

Women are increasing in high Corporate positions, men on the decline.

Women are increasing in personal Net worth, men are on the decline.

Women are dominant in work, men can't keep one job for any kind of long period.

Why exactly is this a problem?

 

[zephyrprime]

I agree with this. I have noticed the exact same things as you in high school/college.

I've noticed back in my old high school that the proportion of males in the honors classes became less and less over the years. In my class, it was a 2:1 ratio. (And despite this I still couldn't score )

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Pandaren

Men are Weak Now: No longer a Man's World:
Women are increasing in high Corporate positions, men on the decline.
Women are increasing in personal Net worth, men are on the decline.
Women are dominant in work, men can't keep one job for any kind of long period.

I'm calling post and run on this one. There's no link, no evidence, no anything to back these statements up!

In any case, I do agree with Orsorum and MovingTarget that education systems in general put more emphasis on girls and women. I've read about this topic in newspapers and there seem to be a couple reasons for this trend (1) attempts to reverse the historic lack of emphasis on education for women (2) girls/women are easier to teach in a classroom setting, less likely to be classroom agitators (3) some men consider 'book learning' to be useless or unmasculine.

The Philadelphia Inquirer had an article on trying to keep minority men (mostly black and latino) from dropping out of college. Women belonging to the same minority groups did not have nearly as much trouble staying in school.

In my four years of college, I noticed that men outnumbered women in a ratio of 4:1 in computer science. In engineering it was more like 5:1 or 6:1 (causing no small amount of complaints by some of my engineering buddies).

Thanks Pand, this was a discussion when I was down at Georgia Tech recently. It used to be completely dominated by men and now it is completely the reverse. Like you said from the male eyes is not a bad thing

How bout you folks in the Northeast at MIT has your numbers flipped flopped over yet?

I wouldn't think so as math seems to be the domain of males.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Pandaren

Men are Weak Now: No longer a Man's World:
Women are increasing in high Corporate positions, men on the decline.
Women are increasing in personal Net worth, men are on the decline.
Women are dominant in work, men can't keep one job for any kind of long period.

I'm calling post and run on this one. There's no link, no evidence, no anything to back these statements up!

In any case, I do agree with Orsorum and MovingTarget that education systems in general put more emphasis on girls and women. I've read about this topic in newspapers and there seem to be a couple reasons for this trend (1) attempts to reverse the historic lack of emphasis on education for women (2) girls/women are easier to teach in a classroom setting, less likely to be classroom agitators (3) some men consider 'book learning' to be useless or unmasculine.

The Philadelphia Inquirer had an article on trying to keep minority men (mostly black and latino) from dropping out of college. Women belonging to the same minority groups did not have nearly as much trouble staying in school.

In my four years of college, I noticed that men outnumbered women in a ratio of 4:1 in computer science. In engineering it was more like 5:1 or 6:1 (causing no small amount of complaints by some of my engineering buddies).

Thanks Pand, this was a discussion when I was down at Georgia Tech recently. It used to be completely dominated by men and now it is completely the reverse. Like you said from the male eyes is not a bad thing

How bout you folks in the Northeast at MIT has your numbers flipped flopped over yet?

Georgia Tech dominated by women? Hahahahaha...

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Pandaren

Men are Weak Now: No longer a Man's World:
Women are increasing in high Corporate positions, men on the decline.
Women are increasing in personal Net worth, men are on the decline.
Women are dominant in work, men can't keep one job for any kind of long period.

I'm calling post and run on this one. There's no link, no evidence, no anything to back these statements up!

In any case, I do agree with Orsorum and MovingTarget that education systems in general put more emphasis on girls and women. I've read about this topic in newspapers and there seem to be a couple reasons for this trend (1) attempts to reverse the historic lack of emphasis on education for women (2) girls/women are easier to teach in a classroom setting, less likely to be classroom agitators (3) some men consider 'book learning' to be useless or unmasculine.

The Philadelphia Inquirer had an article on trying to keep minority men (mostly black and latino) from dropping out of college. Women belonging to the same minority groups did not have nearly as much trouble staying in school.

In my four years of college, I noticed that men outnumbered women in a ratio of 4:1 in computer science. In engineering it was more like 5:1 or 6:1 (causing no small amount of complaints by some of my engineering buddies).

Thanks Pand, this was a discussion when I was down at Georgia Tech recently. It used to be completely dominated by men and now it is completely the reverse. Like you said from the male eyes is not a bad thing

How bout you folks in the Northeast at MIT has your numbers flipped flopped over yet?

You must be completely delusional. Do you have any numbers to support your claim? Even looking at the graduate school stats, it seems that men comprise of 80% of the graduate students.

 

[CubicZirconia]

1-17-04: dmcowen674 makes first post without putting the date in the title

 

[heartsurgeon]

Men are Weak now: No longer a Man's World, Women dominate

us shlubs that are married with kids have known this for years....
reminds me of another post on AT off topic...some poor AT teen geek ran a poll about waiting for sex until marriage... if i recall my contribution to the discussion, it ran something like this:

HAHAHAHAHAHA
waiting for sex until marriage?
your gonna be "waiting for sex" after your married as well..

men are weak...we are ruled by testoterone.
women can wait you out forever, they can wear you down, they can withhold that which you crave until your crawling on your knees. if you don't believe me, your just not old enough yet..but your time will come. remember the show "Married with Children"..closer to fact that fiction.

but God Bless her, i do adore my wife...
but i'm warning you noobs....women are built different, they can outlast us. they will always get what they want in the end....

we are weak...if you don't believe me, then your weak AND stupid.

 

[chess9]

Women are better adapted to modern environmental stresses than men. Read Ashley Montagu's "The Natural Superiority of Women" for starters. This is not just humor, but fact.

Men are ruled by testosterone, not reason or compassion or even money. We should be getting a federal stipend because we are HORMONALLY IMPAIRED!!!!

Ultimately, women will rule nearly every facet of our lives. They are almost there already.....

-Robert, who is waiting to become a sex object. Maybe at 70....

 

[Lonyo]

Looking at the UK in terms of education, it seems women just have more interest in it. The males in secondary school here put less effort into things such as study and revision in general than the women, and are outperformed by them because of this. It might not be attitudes of the places, but the different sexes that leads to more women in further education.

More females I know seem to try than males.

 

[RainDowg]

I live in Athens, GA. I believe the ratio at UGA is something like 3 to 1, women to men. Hehe, it's a great town to be in.

 

[b0mbrman]

Too overgeneralized...

But if you add a "at the mean/median" or "the majority of" or "are more likely to," then I'd tend to agree with you...

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: RainDowg
I live in Athens, GA. I believe the ratio at UGA is something like 3 to 1, women to men. Hehe, it's a great town to be in.

Must be fun...the ratio of available males to available females around here must be well over 90 to 1

 

[LongCoolMother]

at least men will always be physically stronger....:\

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
at least men will always be physically stronger....:\

What about the Williams sisters?