Memory: Which of these is best for my purposes?

DaneGuy

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I?m building a new rib around an e6400 and P5B. I only want to spend about $200 for 2GB of memory. I?d like to do some mild overclocking.

Which of these would be best for me? I appreciate any help.

CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 675 (PC2 5400)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145015
$199

CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 675 (PC2 5400)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145167
$199

Patriot 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820220095
$224

Patriot Signature 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820220071
$207

OCZ Gold Series 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227047
$200

OCZ Platinum Revision 2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227139
$219.

Might be willing spend for these if there?s a big difference:

Crucial Technology Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146567
Damn, just missed the rebate $259 (I won?t buy unless I find cheaper).

mushkin eXtreme Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146093
$239

CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145590
$240

 

Duvie

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No offense but this topic has been answered ample times in this forum....It is downright boring times only exasperated by the same question being asked a zillion times...


Bottomline...E6400's likely will top out at 425-435 range...You will want ram at least that can do 800ddr2 and likely cas 4....Why you are looking at so many 667 models I dont know....

Look at ballistix and Buffalo for ddr2 800 cas 4 memory...
 

Duvie

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Dont apologize...you are a new member...just try to use search bottom as much as you can with Anandtech's sucky search feature....

Read some of the memory threads below and in the signature area of a member named N7 you will see a link for d9 micron...You will want stick that have the D9 micron memory...

Good luck..
 

DaneGuy

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Thanks N7. I'm getting the P5B Deluxe.

I've heard such great things about the e6400 that I really want to get it. I'm hopiing NewEgg will have some new deals since it's CyberMonday today or that some new rebates will come out in the next couple weeks.

I won't have all of my components until Xmas so I guess I can wait for the deals. ;)
 

Rafael

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Yeah I agree with n7.
I was in a similar situation as you are.
But I thought it would be better to spend the extra money on the ram, because I think the ram will last longer than my VGA and/or processor. Because even if I change mobo probably the ram will be good to use.

Rafael
 

DaneGuy

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That makes sense. Thanks for the tips.

I may just save some more cash so I can get the E6400 and good RAM. The waiting is the hardest part. . . . :)
 

n7

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Originally posted by: DaneGuy
Originally posted by: SniperWulf
whatever you do, don't pair the corsair pc6400 stuff with any P5B

Why? Will it explode? LOL.


Basically it's poor for OCing & costs a lot comparable to the alternatives, so yeah.

The reason why i mentioned the E6300 + Buffalo RAM is simple.

The maximum overclocks you'll achieve from the E6300 & E6400 are basically identical.
I have actually used both too, & i am keeping my E6300, since it clocks 7 MHz high than my E6400 for quite a bit less obviously :)

The main limiting factor is the motherboard &/or RAM.

Now you're getting the P5B-D, which will handle 500 FSB or more, so mobo isn't the issue, just RAM.

And fortunately, there's relatively inexpensive D9GMH RAM out there.
Micron D9GMH stuff will basically always reach DDR2-1000 5-5-5, unlike the other kinds out there (Promos, Elipida, Samsung, Hynix, etc.)

And if RAM can reach 500 (DDR2-1000), it's not a limiting factor either :D

Hence why i will again recommend you grab the E6300 + Buffalo Firestix: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820150054

Good luck either way :)
 

DaneGuy

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Thanks N7. That is a great post and very, very helpful.
I'm gonna get the E6400 because someone already bought it for me for Xmas. :) Otherwise, I would probably go for the e6300 as you suggest.

I'm hoping for a new round of rebates from Newegg when December hits. Perhaps the Buffalo Stix or other D9 memory will decrease in price.

I just looked at the list of D9's in your sig. I see there are different numbered D9's. Is the one that you listed, D9GMH, the only one I should consider or are all D9's created equal?

Thanks again for the great post.
 

n7

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No, it's not the only one to consider.

I wouldn't say all are created equal, but unless you know which are handpicked, it's hard to say which kits will results in better overclocks.

Truth is though, since you are getting the E6400 for Christmas (nice gift! :Q), then you really don't need quite as awesome RAM unless you want to run 4:5 (ratio meaning RAM runs faster than the FSB).

RAM needed for...
3000 MHz 1:1 - DDR2-750 / 4:5 - DDR2-937.50
3200 MHz 1:1 - DDR2-800 / 4:5 - DDR2-1000
3400 MHz 1:1 DDR2-850 / 4:5 - DDR2-1062.5
3600 MHz 1:1 DDR2-900 / 4:5 - DDR2-1125
 

imported_neloX

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Wow I'm glad I found this thread. In a similar situation choice wise and after reading countless recommendations by n7 for the Buffalo Firestixs, I decided to add them to my newegg basket. I was just wondering if those clock speeds posted above by n7 are achievable with a E6400 + Gigabyte S3 + Buffalo Firestixs. Also will they go down to 4-4-4-12 or similar with the S3 without too many headaches? I'm asking cause I will be a first time builder/oc'er when I place the order. Hopefully tonight.

Thanks in advance.
 

SniperWulf

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I went from this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145590

to this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227139

and finally after weeks and weeks of troubleshooting blue screens was I able to get my P5B stable..... and I tried everything from running the CPU at stock speed and RAM at 667 to OCing with a little more then adequate voltage and it just would not get stable for sh!te. Finally I bit the bullet and bought a 680i and its been a dream to work with. Straight forward OCing, just like when the A64 was king
 

n7

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Originally posted by: neloX
Wow I'm glad I found this thread. In a similar situation choice wise and after reading countless recommendations by n7 for the Buffalo Firestixs, I decided to add them to my newegg basket. I was just wondering if those clock speeds posted above by n7 are achievable with a E6400 + Gigabyte S3 + Buffalo Firestixs. Also will they go down to 4-4-4-12 or similar with the S3 without too many headaches? I'm asking cause I will be a first time builder/oc'er when I place the order. Hopefully tonight.

Thanks in advance.

Buffalo has them rated with looser timings than really needed.

You should be able to tighten timings to 4-4-4 w/o much trouble.
Once you get to around 900-1000 though, you may have to loosen them to 5-5-5 again.
All depends on luck to an extent, & well, vdimm :p

Remember that if you plan to overclock, it's best to leave RAM loose till you find the CPU's max though, & then tighten RAM timings afterwards.

 

Shimmishim

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Originally posted by: DaneGuy
Thanks N7. That is a great post and very, very helpful.
I'm gonna get the E6400 because someone already bought it for me for Xmas. :) Otherwise, I would probably go for the e6300 as you suggest.

I'm hoping for a new round of rebates from Newegg when December hits. Perhaps the Buffalo Stix or other D9 memory will decrease in price.

I just looked at the list of D9's in your sig. I see there are different numbered D9's. Is the one that you listed, D9GMH, the only one I should consider or are all D9's created equal?

Thanks again for the great post.

No, D9's are not created equal.

The cream of the crop today is the D9GKX that you will find on the overpriced stuff by corsair, ocz, gskill, etc...

The next best is the D9GMH which can be found pretty easily on memory costing between $240 to $300+.

Man, D9GMH memory used to cost less than $250. The Crucial Ballistix I have cost me $180 AR about 1.5 months ago!

The best D9's were the fat body D9's which I believe are the red D9's shown in that DDR list which is D9DCT or something like that but I could be wrong... the fat bodies were AWESOME! I'm not sure what mem they were found on besides the Corsair 5400UL v1.2.


The best deal I have found on ddr2 these days is the Super Talent T800UX2GC4. Seems like this stuff is good. I actually found someone selling this on ebay for $246 and it was too good to pass up.

Before D9's got HUGE, lots of of the cheaper mem people were selling had D9's on them.

The firestix used to have D9GKX believe it or not... now the newer ones have D9GMH.

same goes with the super talent.... there were some old T800UX2GC4 with silver heatspreaders that had D9GKX but i think super talent figured this out and released a blue spreader T800 with the D9GMH and moved the D9GKX to the T1000UX...

:)