Memorable line from Bush during Meet the Press interview...

HomerJS

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Did anybody else catch this?? (slight paraphrasing)

Russert: "John Kerry volunterred for the draft did you?"

Bush: "No. I served in the National Guard. I flew F??? aircraft. We had fun."


So John Kerry goes off to fight in Vietnam and Bush says home to "have fun". Should be a good political ad.
 
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Originally posted by: HomerJS
Did anybody else catch this?? (slight paraphrasing)

Russert: "John Kerry volunterred for the draft did you?"

Bush: "No. I served in the National Guard. I flew F??? aircraft. We had fun."


So John Kerry goes off to fight in Vietnam and Bush says home to "have fun". Should be a good political ad.

...run it just after the "Where were you when your country called?" ad showing a bearded man with a Russian passport and a bag of pot, then cut away to a ski-bunny on the slopes holding his back and flat feet. That, too, would be a good political ad.
 
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That's it, I'm not voting for Bush any more. If he was a true patriot, as defined by the liberals on this board, clearly, he would have been furiously marching up and down the streets of Washington DC since only dissenters and those who constantly question their government are patriots.

Meanwhile, John Kerry was blindly serving the Johnson regime!!!
 

HomerJS

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Did anybody else catch this?? (slight paraphrasing)

Russert: "John Kerry volunterred for the draft did you?"

Bush: "No. I served in the National Guard. I flew F??? aircraft. We had fun."


So John Kerry goes off to fight in Vietnam and Bush says home to "have fun". Should be a good political ad.

...run it just after the "Where were you when your country called?" ad showing a bearded man with a Russian passport and a bag of pot, then cut away to a ski-bunny on the slopes holding his back and flat feet. That, too, would be a good political ad.

I agree with you Bush is no better than Dean but at least Dean came up with his own excuse with no help.
 

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Did anybody else catch this?? (slight paraphrasing)

Russert: "John Kerry volunterred for the draft did you?"

Bush: "No. I served in the National Guard. I flew F??? aircraft. We had fun."


So John Kerry goes off to fight in Vietnam and Bush says home to "have fun". Should be a good political ad.

...run it just after the "Where were you when your country called?" ad showing a bearded man with a Russian passport and a bag of pot, then cut away to a ski-bunny on the slopes holding his back and flat feet. That, too, would be a good political ad.

The only problem is that Dean will not be the Dem nominee. But nice try though ;)
 

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: HomerJS


I agree with you Bush is no better than Dean but at least Dean came up with his own excuse with no help.

but, but, but, butt......

...but, but, but Dean will not be the D nominee and Bush is the R nominee. OH NOES!! WHAT SHOULD WE DO? WHAT SHOULD WE DO????
 

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Originally posted by: HomerJS
Did anybody else catch this?? (slight paraphrasing)

Russert: "John Kerry volunterred for the draft did you?"

Bush: "No. I served in the National Guard. I flew F??? aircraft. We had fun."


So John Kerry goes off to fight in Vietnam and Bush says home to "have fun". Should be a good political ad.

f-102 aircraft.

besides no one "volunteers" for a draft. that is after all why it is the DRAFT. and your "paraphrasing" reminds me of dmcowen and his posts. movve a word around here, omit one there...

so bush flew an aircraft that actually was known as a plane a bit hard to fly, even by seasoned pilots. abut kerry drives around in a patrol boat that he beached to capture ONE vc. after getting medals for relative scratches due to his kennedy conections, kerry then leaves the service early and joins v v a w, an anti war organization with ties to the communist party that frequently flies the flag of the enemy during a time of war and degrades our soldiers as "babykillers"....except for the case of Komrade Kerry. his accidental shooting of a woman, a 12 year old, a baby, and several south vietnamese soldiers is somehow "ok".

bush may not have shot anybody,but at least he did not shoot the wrong people!

looking at the facts it looks increasingly like kerry is a manufactured hero, he enver really saw that much action, and when he did he shoots the wrong people. i will find the numbers, but i beleive kerry actualyl killed more civilians and friendly troops than he did the enemy!

leave it the far left to think of such incompetence as heroism...

 

HomerJS

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Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Did anybody else catch this?? (slight paraphrasing)

Russert: "John Kerry volunterred for the draft did you?"

Bush: "No. I served in the National Guard. I flew F??? aircraft. We had fun."


So John Kerry goes off to fight in Vietnam and Bush says home to "have fun". Should be a good political ad.

f-102 aircraft.

besides no one "volunteers" for a draft. that is after all why it is the DRAFT. and your "paraphrasing" reminds me of dmcowen and his posts. movve a word around here, omit one there...

so bush flew an aircraft that actually was known as a plane a bit hard to fly, even by seasoned pilots. abut kerry drives around in a patrol boat that he beached to capture ONE vc. after getting medals for relative scratches due to his kennedy conections, kerry then leaves the service early and joins v v a w, an anti war organization with ties to the communist party that frequently flies the flag of the enemy during a time of war and degrades our soldiers as "babykillers"....except for the case of Komrade Kerry. his accidental shooting of a woman, a 12 year old, a baby, and several south vietnamese soldiers is somehow "ok".

bush may not have shot anybody,but at least he did not shoot the wrong people!

looking at the facts it looks increasingly like kerry is a manufactured hero, he enver really saw that much action, and when he did he shoots the wrong people. i will find the numbers, but i beleive kerry actualyl killed more civilians and friendly troops than he did the enemy!

leave it the far left to think of such incompetence as heroism...


OK so my english is no better than Bush's, Kerry ENLISTED. At least my paraphrasing has some basis in fact. There has been no documentatin to suggest Kerry didn't see much action. You just made that up.

BTW - Being a pilot doent quilify one as a "genious" or a "hero" Just look at that AA pilot who made threating comments to his passangers during a flight. I would still say it take a lot more guts to go to war than to fly a plane over Texas.


 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Did anybody else catch this?? (slight paraphrasing)

Russert: "John Kerry volunterred for the draft did you?"

Bush: "No. I served in the National Guard. I flew F??? aircraft. We had fun."


So John Kerry goes off to fight in Vietnam and Bush says home to "have fun". Should be a good political ad.

f-102 aircraft.

besides no one "volunteers" for a draft. that is after all why it is the DRAFT. and your "paraphrasing" reminds me of dmcowen and his posts. movve a word around here, omit one there...

so bush flew an aircraft that actually was known as a plane a bit hard to fly, even by seasoned pilots. abut kerry drives around in a patrol boat that he beached to capture ONE vc. after getting medals for relative scratches due to his kennedy conections, kerry then leaves the service early and joins v v a w, an anti war organization with ties to the communist party that frequently flies the flag of the enemy during a time of war and degrades our soldiers as "babykillers"....except for the case of Komrade Kerry. his accidental shooting of a woman, a 12 year old, a baby, and several south vietnamese soldiers is somehow "ok".

bush may not have shot anybody,but at least he did not shoot the wrong people!

looking at the facts it looks increasingly like kerry is a manufactured hero, he enver really saw that much action, and when he did he shoots the wrong people. i will find the numbers, but i beleive kerry actualyl killed more civilians and friendly troops than he did the enemy!

leave it the far left to think of such incompetence as heroism...
And leave it to the Lunatic Fringe Right to manufacture Kerry's activities while in Viet Nam!

Frankly I don't have a problem with Bush trying to stay out of Viet Nam. It doesn't make him a Coward, just smart. Fortunately for me the year I was eligable for the draft they discontinued it (1972) as I had a very low lottery number and probably would have ended up in Nam like many of my older friends did.
 

outriding

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Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Did anybody else catch this?? (slight paraphrasing)

Russert: "John Kerry volunterred for the draft did you?"

Bush: "No. I served in the National Guard. I flew F??? aircraft. We had fun."


So John Kerry goes off to fight in Vietnam and Bush says home to "have fun". Should be a good political ad.

f-102 aircraft.

besides no one "volunteers" for a draft. that is after all why it is the DRAFT. and your "paraphrasing" reminds me of dmcowen and his posts. movve a word around here, omit one there...

so bush flew an aircraft that actually was known as a plane a bit hard to fly, even by seasoned pilots. abut kerry drives around in a patrol boat that he beached to capture ONE vc. after getting medals for relative scratches due to his kennedy conections, kerry then leaves the service early and joins v v a w, an anti war organization with ties to the communist party that frequently flies the flag of the enemy during a time of war and degrades our soldiers as "babykillers"....except for the case of Komrade Kerry. his accidental shooting of a woman, a 12 year old, a baby, and several south vietnamese soldiers is somehow "ok".

bush may not have shot anybody,but at least he did not shoot the wrong people!

looking at the facts it looks increasingly like kerry is a manufactured hero, he enver really saw that much action, and when he did he shoots the wrong people. i will find the numbers, but i beleive kerry actualyl killed more civilians and friendly troops than he did the enemy!

leave it the far left to think of such incompetence as heroism...

Kerry's medals...

Silver Star, the Bronze Star with Combat V, three Purple Hearts, the Presidential Unit Citation for Extraordinary Heroism, the National Defense Service Medal, the Vietnam Service Medal, three Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medals, and the Combat Action Ribbon

Yep you are going to get those just by shooting the wrong people.

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: outriding
Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Did anybody else catch this?? (slight paraphrasing)

Russert: "John Kerry volunterred for the draft did you?"

Bush: "No. I served in the National Guard. I flew F??? aircraft. We had fun."


So John Kerry goes off to fight in Vietnam and Bush says home to "have fun". Should be a good political ad.

f-102 aircraft.

besides no one "volunteers" for a draft. that is after all why it is the DRAFT. and your "paraphrasing" reminds me of dmcowen and his posts. movve a word around here, omit one there...

so bush flew an aircraft that actually was known as a plane a bit hard to fly, even by seasoned pilots. abut kerry drives around in a patrol boat that he beached to capture ONE vc. after getting medals for relative scratches due to his kennedy conections, kerry then leaves the service early and joins v v a w, an anti war organization with ties to the communist party that frequently flies the flag of the enemy during a time of war and degrades our soldiers as "babykillers"....except for the case of Komrade Kerry. his accidental shooting of a woman, a 12 year old, a baby, and several south vietnamese soldiers is somehow "ok".

bush may not have shot anybody,but at least he did not shoot the wrong people!

looking at the facts it looks increasingly like kerry is a manufactured hero, he enver really saw that much action, and when he did he shoots the wrong people. i will find the numbers, but i beleive kerry actualyl killed more civilians and friendly troops than he did the enemy!

leave it the far left to think of such incompetence as heroism...

Kerry's medals...

Silver Star, the Bronze Star with Combat V, three Purple Hearts, the Presidential Unit Citation for Extraordinary Heroism, the National Defense Service Medal, the Vietnam Service Medal, three Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medals, and the Combat Action Ribbon

Yep you are going to get those just by shooting the wrong people.
Hey Shadowhawk isn't one who will let the facts get in the way of his propoganda!
 

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...run it just after the "Where were you when your country called?" ad showing a bearded man with a Russian passport and a bag of pot, then cut away to a ski-bunny on the slopes holding his back and flat feet. That, too, would be a good political ad.

That may elicit a chuckle but anal cysts will always take the cake.

Zephyr
 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: outriding
Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Did anybody else catch this?? (slight paraphrasing)

Russert: "John Kerry volunterred for the draft did you?"

Bush: "No. I served in the National Guard. I flew F??? aircraft. We had fun."


So John Kerry goes off to fight in Vietnam and Bush says home to "have fun". Should be a good political ad.

f-102 aircraft.

besides no one "volunteers" for a draft. that is after all why it is the DRAFT. and your "paraphrasing" reminds me of dmcowen and his posts. movve a word around here, omit one there...

so bush flew an aircraft that actually was known as a plane a bit hard to fly, even by seasoned pilots. abut kerry drives around in a patrol boat that he beached to capture ONE vc. after getting medals for relative scratches due to his kennedy conections, kerry then leaves the service early and joins v v a w, an anti war organization with ties to the communist party that frequently flies the flag of the enemy during a time of war and degrades our soldiers as "babykillers"....except for the case of Komrade Kerry. his accidental shooting of a woman, a 12 year old, a baby, and several south vietnamese soldiers is somehow "ok".

bush may not have shot anybody,but at least he did not shoot the wrong people!

looking at the facts it looks increasingly like kerry is a manufactured hero, he enver really saw that much action, and when he did he shoots the wrong people. i will find the numbers, but i beleive kerry actualyl killed more civilians and friendly troops than he did the enemy!

leave it the far left to think of such incompetence as heroism...

Kerry's medals...

Silver Star, the Bronze Star with Combat V, three Purple Hearts, the Presidential Unit Citation for Extraordinary Heroism, the National Defense Service Medal, the Vietnam Service Medal, three Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medals, and the Combat Action Ribbon

Yep you are going to get those just by shooting the wrong people.
Hey Shadowhawk isn't one who will let the facts get in the way of his propoganda!

He don't forget Causulties and Collateral damage in War shoot themselves.


 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Zephyr106
...run it just after the "Where were you when your country called?" ad showing a bearded man with a Russian passport and a bag of pot, then cut away to a ski-bunny on the slopes holding his back and flat feet. That, too, would be a good political ad.

That may elicit a chuckle but anal cysts will always take the cake.

Zephyr
[Butthead] Ass Pimple Rule[/Butthead]

 

outriding

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: outriding
Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Did anybody else catch this?? (slight paraphrasing)

Russert: "John Kerry volunterred for the draft did you?"

Bush: "No. I served in the National Guard. I flew F??? aircraft. We had fun."


So John Kerry goes off to fight in Vietnam and Bush says home to "have fun". Should be a good political ad.

f-102 aircraft.

besides no one "volunteers" for a draft. that is after all why it is the DRAFT. and your "paraphrasing" reminds me of dmcowen and his posts. movve a word around here, omit one there...

so bush flew an aircraft that actually was known as a plane a bit hard to fly, even by seasoned pilots. abut kerry drives around in a patrol boat that he beached to capture ONE vc. after getting medals for relative scratches due to his kennedy conections, kerry then leaves the service early and joins v v a w, an anti war organization with ties to the communist party that frequently flies the flag of the enemy during a time of war and degrades our soldiers as "babykillers"....except for the case of Komrade Kerry. his accidental shooting of a woman, a 12 year old, a baby, and several south vietnamese soldiers is somehow "ok".

bush may not have shot anybody,but at least he did not shoot the wrong people!

looking at the facts it looks increasingly like kerry is a manufactured hero, he enver really saw that much action, and when he did he shoots the wrong people. i will find the numbers, but i beleive kerry actualyl killed more civilians and friendly troops than he did the enemy!

leave it the far left to think of such incompetence as heroism...

Kerry's medals...

Silver Star, the Bronze Star with Combat V, three Purple Hearts, the Presidential Unit Citation for Extraordinary Heroism, the National Defense Service Medal, the Vietnam Service Medal, three Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medals, and the Combat Action Ribbon

Yep you are going to get those just by shooting the wrong people.
Hey Shadowhawk isn't one who will let the facts get in the way of his propoganda!

I'm sorry i will not let that happen again.

 

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looking at the facts it looks increasingly like kerry is a manufactured hero, he enver really saw that much action, and when he did he shoots the wrong people. i will find the numbers, but i beleive kerry actualyl killed more civilians and friendly troops than he did the enemy!

leave it the far left to think of such incompetence as heroism...

You seemingly forgot about Ms. Jessica Lynch. Nice person, sure. Stuck in a crappy situation, yes. War hero, gimmie a freakin brake!!!

Far left, I don't think so... try politicain!
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This is my favorite line...

President Bush: Well, I don't plan on losing. I have got a vision for what I want to do for the country. See, I know exactly where I want to lead. I want to lead us I want to lead this world toward more peace and freedom. I want to lead this great country to work with others to change the world in positive ways, particularly as we fight the war on terror, and we got changing times here in America, too.
 

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Originally posted by: Gaard
This is my favorite line...

President Bush: Well, I don't plan on losing. I have got a vision for what I want to do for the country. See, I know exactly where I want to lead. I want to lead us I want to lead this world toward more peace and freedom. I want to lead this great country to work with others to change the world in positive ways, particularly as we fight the war on terror, and we got changing times here in America, too.

Yet in the previous sentence he calls himself "The War President". Priceless
 

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Originally posted by: HomerJS
Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Did anybody else catch this?? (slight paraphrasing)

Russert: "John Kerry volunterred for the draft did you?"

Bush: "No. I served in the National Guard. I flew F??? aircraft. We had fun."


So John Kerry goes off to fight in Vietnam and Bush says home to "have fun". Should be a good political ad.

f-102 aircraft.

besides no one "volunteers" for a draft. that is after all why it is the DRAFT. and your "paraphrasing" reminds me of dmcowen and his posts. movve a word around here, omit one there...

so bush flew an aircraft that actually was known as a plane a bit hard to fly, even by seasoned pilots. abut kerry drives around in a patrol boat that he beached to capture ONE vc. after getting medals for relative scratches due to his kennedy conections, kerry then leaves the service early and joins v v a w, an anti war organization with ties to the communist party that frequently flies the flag of the enemy during a time of war and degrades our soldiers as "babykillers"....except for the case of Komrade Kerry. his accidental shooting of a woman, a 12 year old, a baby, and several south vietnamese soldiers is somehow "ok".

bush may not have shot anybody,but at least he did not shoot the wrong people!

looking at the facts it looks increasingly like kerry is a manufactured hero, he enver really saw that much action, and when he did he shoots the wrong people. i will find the numbers, but i beleive kerry actualyl killed more civilians and friendly troops than he did the enemy!

leave it the far left to think of such incompetence as heroism...


OK so my english is no better than Bush's, Kerry ENLISTED. At least my paraphrasing has some basis in fact. There has been no documentatin to suggest Kerry didn't see much action. You just made that up.

BTW - Being a pilot doent quilify one as a "genious" or a "hero" Just look at that AA pilot who made threating comments to his passangers during a flight. I would still say it take a lot more guts to go to war than to fly a plane over Texas.

well they both enlisted.

my point was flying a fighter jet takes a bit more skill than putting around in a boat with a machine gun mounted on it. and yes there IS documentation, look at his service record. he was only in vietnam for 11 months. and did not see any action until NOV 1968 transferring out to the states in MAR 1969 (4 months total combat time)

2 of his purple hearts were for cuts that did no reguire any hospital time, the third purple heart kept him out of action for 2 days.

if he had been a regular soldier instead of a friend of the kennedy family, Komrade Kerry proboly would have only gotten 1 of those purple hearts.



 

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Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Did anybody else catch this?? (slight paraphrasing)

Russert: "John Kerry volunterred for the draft did you?"

Bush: "No. I served in the National Guard. I flew F??? aircraft. We had fun."


So John Kerry goes off to fight in Vietnam and Bush says home to "have fun". Should be a good political ad.

f-102 aircraft.

besides no one "volunteers" for a draft. that is after all why it is the DRAFT. and your "paraphrasing" reminds me of dmcowen and his posts. movve a word around here, omit one there...

so bush flew an aircraft that actually was known as a plane a bit hard to fly, even by seasoned pilots. abut kerry drives around in a patrol boat that he beached to capture ONE vc. after getting medals for relative scratches due to his kennedy conections, kerry then leaves the service early and joins v v a w, an anti war organization with ties to the communist party that frequently flies the flag of the enemy during a time of war and degrades our soldiers as "babykillers"....except for the case of Komrade Kerry. his accidental shooting of a woman, a 12 year old, a baby, and several south vietnamese soldiers is somehow "ok".

bush may not have shot anybody,but at least he did not shoot the wrong people!

looking at the facts it looks increasingly like kerry is a manufactured hero, he enver really saw that much action, and when he did he shoots the wrong people. i will find the numbers, but i beleive kerry actualyl killed more civilians and friendly troops than he did the enemy!

leave it the far left to think of such incompetence as heroism...


OK so my english is no better than Bush's, Kerry ENLISTED. At least my paraphrasing has some basis in fact. There has been no documentatin to suggest Kerry didn't see much action. You just made that up.

BTW - Being a pilot doent quilify one as a "genious" or a "hero" Just look at that AA pilot who made threating comments to his passangers during a flight. I would still say it take a lot more guts to go to war than to fly a plane over Texas.

well they both enlisted.

my point was flying a fighter jet takes a bit more skill than putting around in a boat with a machine gun mounted on it. and yes there IS documentation, look at his service record. he was only in vietnam for 11 months. and did not see any action until NOV 1968 transferring out to the states in MAR 1969 (4 months total combat time)

2 of his purple hearts were for cuts that did no reguire any hospital time, the third purple heart kept him out of action for 2 days.

if he had been a regular soldier instead of a friend of the kennedy family, Komrade Kerry proboly would have only gotten 1 of those purple hearts.


What the hell are you babbling about?
That Kerry didn't do as much as Bush?
That Bush had just as hard a time as Kerry during those years?

Please, don't kid yourself. They both served the US, albeit in different ways. Bush served here at home, Kerry went abroad. It's really as simple as that. As far as who did more? Well, I'll let their military records speak for that.
 

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Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Did anybody else catch this?? (slight paraphrasing)

Russert: "John Kerry volunterred for the draft did you?"

Bush: "No. I served in the National Guard. I flew F??? aircraft. We had fun."


So John Kerry goes off to fight in Vietnam and Bush says home to "have fun". Should be a good political ad.

f-102 aircraft.

besides no one "volunteers" for a draft. that is after all why it is the DRAFT. and your "paraphrasing" reminds me of dmcowen and his posts. movve a word around here, omit one there...

so bush flew an aircraft that actually was known as a plane a bit hard to fly, even by seasoned pilots. abut kerry drives around in a patrol boat that he beached to capture ONE vc. after getting medals for relative scratches due to his kennedy conections, kerry then leaves the service early and joins v v a w, an anti war organization with ties to the communist party that frequently flies the flag of the enemy during a time of war and degrades our soldiers as "babykillers"....except for the case of Komrade Kerry. his accidental shooting of a woman, a 12 year old, a baby, and several south vietnamese soldiers is somehow "ok".

bush may not have shot anybody,but at least he did not shoot the wrong people!

looking at the facts it looks increasingly like kerry is a manufactured hero, he enver really saw that much action, and when he did he shoots the wrong people. i will find the numbers, but i beleive kerry actualyl killed more civilians and friendly troops than he did the enemy!

leave it the far left to think of such incompetence as heroism...


OK so my english is no better than Bush's, Kerry ENLISTED. At least my paraphrasing has some basis in fact. There has been no documentatin to suggest Kerry didn't see much action. You just made that up.

BTW - Being a pilot doent quilify one as a "genious" or a "hero" Just look at that AA pilot who made threating comments to his passangers during a flight. I would still say it take a lot more guts to go to war than to fly a plane over Texas.

well they both enlisted.

my point was flying a fighter jet takes a bit more skill than putting around in a boat with a machine gun mounted on it. and yes there IS documentation, look at his service record. he was only in vietnam for 11 months. and did not see any action until NOV 1968 transferring out to the states in MAR 1969 (4 months total combat time)

2 of his purple hearts were for cuts that did no reguire any hospital time, the third purple heart kept him out of action for 2 days.

if he had been a regular soldier instead of a friend of the kennedy family, Komrade Kerry proboly would have only gotten 1 of those purple hearts.

I'm sorry i lost count.

how many medals bush recieved ?

 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: outriding
Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Did anybody else catch this?? (slight paraphrasing)

Russert: "John Kerry volunterred for the draft did you?"

Bush: "No. I served in the National Guard. I flew F??? aircraft. We had fun."


So John Kerry goes off to fight in Vietnam and Bush says home to "have fun". Should be a good political ad.

f-102 aircraft.

besides no one "volunteers" for a draft. that is after all why it is the DRAFT. and your "paraphrasing" reminds me of dmcowen and his posts. movve a word around here, omit one there...

so bush flew an aircraft that actually was known as a plane a bit hard to fly, even by seasoned pilots. abut kerry drives around in a patrol boat that he beached to capture ONE vc. after getting medals for relative scratches due to his kennedy conections, kerry then leaves the service early and joins v v a w, an anti war organization with ties to the communist party that frequently flies the flag of the enemy during a time of war and degrades our soldiers as "babykillers"....except for the case of Komrade Kerry. his accidental shooting of a woman, a 12 year old, a baby, and several south vietnamese soldiers is somehow "ok".

bush may not have shot anybody,but at least he did not shoot the wrong people!

looking at the facts it looks increasingly like kerry is a manufactured hero, he enver really saw that much action, and when he did he shoots the wrong people. i will find the numbers, but i beleive kerry actualyl killed more civilians and friendly troops than he did the enemy!

leave it the far left to think of such incompetence as heroism...

Kerry's medals...

Silver Star, the Bronze Star with Combat V, three Purple Hearts, the Presidential Unit Citation for Extraordinary Heroism, the National Defense Service Medal, the Vietnam Service Medal, three Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medals, and the Combat Action Ribbon

Yep you are going to get those just by shooting the wrong people.
Hey Shadowhawk isn't one who will let the facts get in the way of his propoganda!


LOL!

no you get them by being a friend of on of the most powerful families in the nation that sweeps the triggerhappiness of kerry under the rug, espeicially since he is involved with the leftists in the 60's. propaganda? ROFL!! real world politics is more like it.

then what heroboy does is to co-found V V A W an organization that spent alot of time calling our soldier "babykillers", the fact that kerry is one too(thier definition of babykiller not mine) of course means nothing.
 

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Originally posted by: HomerJS
Did anybody else catch this?? (slight paraphrasing)

Russert: "John Kerry volunterred for the draft did you?"

Bush: "No. I served in the National Guard. I flew F??? aircraft. We had fun."


So John Kerry goes off to fight in Vietnam and Bush says home to "have fun". Should be a good political ad.

at the end of the day kerry didnt walk away he put his life on the line. twice. two tours.

what would the follow up be? 'so what were you doing? fooling around at the beach with daddy's dollars in your pocket? are you fooling around with tax payer's dollars now?'
 

robh23

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Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Did anybody else catch this?? (slight paraphrasing)

Russert: "John Kerry volunterred for the draft did you?"

Bush: "No. I served in the National Guard. I flew F??? aircraft. We had fun."


So John Kerry goes off to fight in Vietnam and Bush says home to "have fun". Should be a good political ad.

f-102 aircraft.

besides no one "volunteers" for a draft. that is after all why it is the DRAFT. and your "paraphrasing" reminds me of dmcowen and his posts. movve a word around here, omit one there...

so bush flew an aircraft that actually was known as a plane a bit hard to fly, even by seasoned pilots. abut kerry drives around in a patrol boat that he beached to capture ONE vc. after getting medals for relative scratches due to his kennedy conections, kerry then leaves the service early and joins v v a w, an anti war organization with ties to the communist party that frequently flies the flag of the enemy during a time of war and degrades our soldiers as "babykillers"....except for the case of Komrade Kerry. his accidental shooting of a woman, a 12 year old, a baby, and several south vietnamese soldiers is somehow "ok".

bush may not have shot anybody,but at least he did not shoot the wrong people!

looking at the facts it looks increasingly like kerry is a manufactured hero, he enver really saw that much action, and when he did he shoots the wrong people. i will find the numbers, but i beleive kerry actualyl killed more civilians and friendly troops than he did the enemy!

leave it the far left to think of such incompetence as heroism...

what you described is the archetype american soldier - shoot then think, its why you lose guerilla campaigns you have no sensitivity to a situation. i blame accidental killings on the generals in charge, they should train the grunts like the british generals do, we never lose.

in terms of your castigating his heroism, he went back a second time as first tour he was a remf. most light injuries that you dismiss are inches or millimetres from being more serious. he acted with courage in close quarter combat which is more than could be hoped from most of the people here.