Well how old was Mary when God knocked her up. 11, 12, or even younger?maybe god likes raping little kids. Nobody thought about that. He bored af and his kink knows no limits.
Well how old was Mary when God knocked her up. 11, 12, or even younger?maybe god likes raping little kids. Nobody thought about that. He bored af and his kink knows no limits.
My comments were referring to this:
It’s not a “one or the other” kind of thing...confessing to a priest doesn’t avoid any legal prosecution...
Do the folks who support locking up the priest also support locking up doctors/shrinks/ lawyers who don’t report crimes their clients/patients confess to them?
(FWIW, I do.)
Child Abuse Exception
Many states have statutes requiring healthcare providers, including mental health professionals, to report any suspected abuse of children, elders, and dependent adults. So, in most cases, therapists who hear admissions of such abuse from patients not only can report their patients’ statements—they must.
Well how old was Mary when God knocked her up. 11, 12, or even younger?
In any case, my argument is still valid, though the logic of a non-believer genuinely seeking Catholic Confession may cause a computer-like reaction in me rather like dividing by zero, and a non-genuine convert is a non-believer and a genuine convert is a True Believer.
Since that's the whole freaking point of confession, it's kinda relevant, don't you think? To honestly confess a deed implies commitment (so logically confessing is not relevant), however as I said already, the Catholic process of Confession obviously does not achieve its intended end. If it did millions could be saved in the criminal justice system: You can either confess then walk free or 'do the time'.
Since the evidence in stacked in favour of concluding that the Catholic process of Confession is a mindless ritual, then why on earth should it be considered to be above the law?
The more I think about Catholic Confession the more it disturbs me.
<--- also ex-catholic
BUT, confessing and getting forgiveness does not...and never has, absolved the sinner from any legal penalties for the "sin." It's meant only to get forgiveness from God...Man's laws still apply.
I don't buy into the religion bullshit...but I WAS raised around it, so I sort-of understand the mindset.
So? God still knocked up a little girl, and he didn't even ask her first.that was 2000 years ago player.
Except the sacredness of confession is a fantasy. Earthly professions are bound by ethics and professional codes of conduct to report criminal behaviour to the relevant authorities. Not facilitate it. Which the catholic church seems hell bent on doing.
Well how old was Mary when God knocked her up. 11, 12, or even younger?
Well God certainly didn't ask her first. Afterward she was married off to an older man. God couldn't have waited until her mid-teens at least, and then ask her?It was more like rape really. It was not consensual....
I know little on the subject of confession and what priest can and cant do. So i found this and thought it was a interesting read.
http://canonlawmadeeasy.com/2008/12/04/can-a-priest-ever-reveal-what-is-said-in-confession/
I certainly hope that the Roman Catholic Church and the priest in question considers saving lives to be far more "sacred" then Confession.Id hate to be the priest that was confessed "im going to set off a nuclear bomb in downtown NYC next week" and then millions or people are killed because you felt the confession was sacred and above the law....
I don't know for sure, but I don't think so. On the other hand, if the Mob Boss told his lawyer that he is planning to kill someone or have them killed then the lawyer does to have report it.If an individual tells their personal attorney that they committed a crime, is the attorney required to report it?
For example, if a mob boss who is in his lawyers office discussing a tax evasion case informs his attorney that he committed a murder 4 years ago, is the attorney required to report the crime?
I don't know for sure, but I don't think so. On the other hand, if the Mob Boss told his lawyer that he is planning to kill someone or have them killed then the lawyer does to have report it.
The answer to that question is yes. Unless you think some dumb goat herders god from 2000 years ago is going to dictate how modern man lives?
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If there was really a god then priests who rape kids should be his #1 priority. If anything was to get him off his impotent ass and force him to actually accomplish something it would be his own hand-picked representatives abusing his followers and besmirching his name. But he seems pretty chill about it. God used to kill millions of people just for complaining, now nothing raises his wrath. I wonder how he got over his anger issues.
I certainly hope that the Roman Catholic Church and the priest in question considers saving lives to be far more "sacred" then Confession.
I myself value human life and well-being, so my moral system requires me to take action to help preserve both of myself and others.
So if a if serial killer confesses that he enjoys raping and killing young women, and currently has plans to keep doing it, the priest isn't supposed to the break seal of confession to put a stop to it?Hope all you want, but the Catholic doctrine here is clear. The seal of confession is sacrosanct. No exceptions.
This sort of thing underscores what is wrong with religion as a system of morality: it isn't one. It's a set of rules, often arbitrary. There is no moral reasoning involved because the deity has purportedly already done that for us.
So if a if serial killer confesses that he enjoys raping and killing young women, and currently has plans to keep doing it, the priest isn't supposed to the break seal of confession to put a stop to it?
Is clergyman-penitent privilege even recognized in the US?AFAIK, the answer to that question is "no." Civil law may make exceptions to the clergyman-penitent privilege but there are no exceptions under Catholic doctrine. Hence the conflict here.
Is clergyman-penitent privilege even recognized in the US?
I would have thought that all States require the clergyman to report if a penitent is actively causing harm or intend to harm himself and/or others by now.Yes it is. The rules vary from state to state. Generally, it applies to any confidential communications between clergyman and penitent, regardless of the religion. Some states may still require reporting of certain things, while others may not.
