sandorski
No Lifer
- Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
The government has set up a mechanism where it encourages citizens to provide personally identifiable information about those who don't like what that government is doing.
As has been said, if Bush had done it he'd have been dumped on and with good cause. Of course the Obamapologists consider this no big deal, which isn't the least surprising. No neocon stood by his President right or wrong any better.
Congrats.
Incorrect. They have asked to receive the kinds of misinformation that Citizens have been receiving. Something completely different than your Innuendo.
Did I make an innuendo? Ok, let me be clearer. People will cut and paste and link to web pages. They won't be saying "I heard something, but I'm not going to say where I heard it." People aren't that scrupulous as a rule. Now if you are going to try to escape that by appealing to literalism, there will certainly be some who will just be asking questions, however you know how the internet works. Personally identifiable information will be received and kept, and the interviewee went to extraordinary lengths to not acknowledge that obvious fact. In truth, he pretended the question didn't exist.
He could have said "we have the messages people send us, and we are required to keep them intact by law, but we aren't going to act against or use the power of government to intimidate whose who disagree with us". A definitive statement.
By not making such a statement, it leaves open the question of possible retribution against those identified.
You can deny it, but I defy you to show anything said in this interview which contradicts my statement. Use his words and defend him if you can.
Lol, you're being paranoid.
The best way to evade a logical argument is to belittle it. I say again, what was said in this interview that would give credence to your claim, and discredit my contention?
Why the evasion? Am I so beyond them that I can say something they cannot? No indeed, yet here is it. I can do what they cannot, or will not.
A child knows such gross deception and obfuscation because he has not taught himself to lie in order to make the world conform to what he would have it be.
It's a great shame that many adults have.
All you need do to prove me wrong is to use his words as spoken to reassure us that I am mistaken.
Is that so difficult?
He was answering the Innuendo. There is no Enemies list, there's no desire for an Enemies List, he wasn't going to give the answer that made the Interviewer seem justified in claiming there was an Enemies List.
The question is akin to the old: Have you stopped beating your Wife yet?
What he should have said then is "I don't beat my wife", instead of saying "Rest assured that no one has ever been able to demonstrate that I've beaten my wife", or "I've never been convicted of any crime of violence"
I gave an answer which would have addressed the issue in a positive way. Concise and direct with no wiggle room. After that, he could have said "I've provided a rational and complete answer to any reasonable concern. There is no need to repeat it. Next."
There is no downside to how I would have answered, but there is the fact that he would not do the same. He wasn't answering her question, he was addressing the question asked by many. He had the opportunity to respond in a way that would have done the administration credit but deliberately chose to act as if the question was never asked. The choice we are given is to believe that the option of retribution is potentially in play or that we're led by a confederacy of dunces. Neither looks particularly flattering. Of course one can pretend along, but that line of reasoning is easily countered.
I'm not categorically stating that Obama will abuse the power of government, but he's gone to extraordinary lengths to not reassure us of that fact.
That is my concern. Something so easily put to rest kept alive by refusing to rule it out explicitly.
That's essentially what he was saying. he and others in this thread were/are insisting on "Yes/No".
Like I said, paranoia.