Meet the Nintendo 2DS.

[zerocool84]

Before it released the hype was for the 3D. So it makes them look silly for marketing it that way now.

They would have been better off dropping the 3D and calling it something else. I bet a lot of uninformed shoppers will equate 2DS as being the low end model and the 3DS being higher end even though they are the same hardware for the games. Then you have people who don't understand that 3DS games work on the 2DS. They are gonna have to change all the box art now or something. I can see people at Walmart thinking "there are no games for the 2DS these are all 3DS games." It is my opinion that Nintendo is going to be hurting themselves the same way they did with the wiiu naming and marketing.

Supposedly there's a huge sticker on the box saying that it'll play all the standard 3DS games but it'll hardly help. Nintendo has a naming problem with their systems. How many people even know the WiiU is a totally new system?

 

[ViRGE]

Before it released the hype was for the 3D. So it makes them look silly for marketing it that way now.

Oh it absolutely makes them look silly. There's no question about that. That was always the risk of pushing stereo 3D, as it was always at risk of it being a failure.

Supposedly there's a huge sticker on the box saying that it'll play all the standard 3DS games but it'll hardly help. Nintendo has a naming problem with their systems. How many people even know the WiiU is a totally new system?

Uhh, everyone I would hope? It's not as if people had a problem with Super Nintendo, or Xbox 360...

 

[cmdrdredd]

Oh it absolutely makes them look silly. There's no question about that. That was always the risk of pushing stereo 3D, as it was always at risk of it being a failure.
Uhh, everyone I would hope? It's not as if people had a problem with Super Nintendo, or Xbox 360...

The difference is they dropped support for the old systems then and most of the ads didn't simply show a tablet controller. I bet a lot of people think it is just a new controller when watching the commercial.

Maybe it is just my experience doing retail in the video games world that kind of gives me a different outlook. Generally people come in and have no clue about this stuff.

 

[Dumac]

While they fragment the system and developers. Now they make the 3D even more of a gimmick because developers will stop making games that use 3D in cool ways. Why even make a 3DS if you are gonna go back to 2D anyway?

There isn't going to be any system fragmentation. It is the same as a normal 3DS with the slider turned down.

This was kind of my point. Sure you can have games with 3D that play fine in 2D, but...if they aren't MADE with 3D in mind, then..well...it's not the same thing.

You guys do now that 3D on the 3DS is optional right? There is a slider where you can turn it all the way off, and there are also parental controls to disable it.

No games require 3D. No games are made with only 3D in mind. Every game works perfectly in 2D.

The 3D is a bonus feature. An add on. Something that is nice rather than a gameplay changer. I turn it off 80% of the time.

It kind of sounds like you guys are just making up reasons to try to stick it to the 2DS. The system will do fine.

 

[cmdrdredd]

There isn't going to be any system fragmentation. It is the same as a normal 3DS with the slider turned down.



You guys do now that 3D on the 3DS is optional right? There is a slider where you can turn it all the way off, and there are also parental controls to disable it.

No games require 3D. No games are made with only 3D in mind. Every game works perfectly in 2D.

The 3D is a bonus feature. An add on. Something that is nice rather than a gameplay changer. I turn it off 80% of the time.

It kind of sounds like you guys are just making up reasons to try to stick it to the 2DS. The system will do fine.

No...it is you who are making excuses for Nintendo's shitty marketing. Every ad for the system included talk about 3D. Nothing about better graphics or new games that are impossible on a normal DS, nothing about the estore. It was all about hyping the 3D. Now you try to make it seem like it doesn't matter...it does matter. Nintendo said it matters when they designed the damn thing.

 

[Dumac]

No...it is you who are making excuses for Nintendo's shitty marketing. Every ad for the system included talk about 3D. Nothing about better graphics or new games that are impossible on a normal DS, nothing about the estore. It was all about hyping the 3D. Now you try to make it seem like it doesn't matter...it does matter. Nintendo said it matters when they designed the damn thing.

Nobody denies Nintendo has marketing problems, but that isn't the discussion here. We are talking about the system itself, Mr. "fragment the system and developers".

If you knew anything about the 3DS, you would realize that makes no sense.

First it was the form factor, even though its known that hinges break easier than the screen.
Then it was the 3D because you believe developers are going to have to target 3DS and 2DS discretely, which is just false.
Now it is marketing?

Sure, the marketing sucks. Who cares? 2DS is a silly name. So is Wii. So is WiiU. So was N64 (because 64bit was the main point of the system, right?).

In no way will the 2DS impact existing 3DS owners (if you even are one). Sure, you may not like the 2DS, but that is okay, because you aren't who it was designed for.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Nobody denies Nintendo has marketing problems, but that isn't the discussion here. We are talking about the system itself, Mr. "fragment the system and developers".

If you knew anything about the 3DS, you would realize that makes no sense.

First it was the form factor, even though its known that hinges break easier than the screen.
Then it was the 3D because you believe developers are going to have to target 3DS and 2DS discretely, which is just false.
Now it is marketing?

Sure, the marketing sucks. Who cares? 2DS is a silly name. So is Wii. So is WiiU. So was N64 (because 64bit was the main point of the system, right?).

In no way will the 2DS impact existing 3DS owners (if you even are one). Sure, you may not like the 2DS, but that is okay, because you aren't who it was designed for.

You must be new here...yea I own a 3DS. Yes the screen breaks more easily than the hinge, I have witnessed this personally. You can say whatever you want but I have had a DS(the original 2D model from years ago) since day one and it doesn't have a broke hinge and it has never even felt flimsy. So yeah, I know what the hell I am talking about and know that you have no clue how terrible nintento is marketing things. It matters because without good marketing you get poor consumer knowledge and have a ton of people thinking one thing when it is actually the opposite.

In short...the new system is a solution looking for a problem with a bad design. It looks like they came up with this design yesterday.

 

[Dumac]

You must be new here

...yea I own a 3DS. Yes the screen breaks more easily than the hinge, I have witnessed this personally. You can say whatever you want but I have had a DS(the original 2D model from years ago) since day one and it doesn't have a broke hinge and it has never even felt flimsy. So yeah, I know what the hell I am talking about

Oh yay, anecdotal evidence. Well the two DS's I originally owned both ended up with broken hinges. So I guess that makes me twice as right as you are

and know that you have no clue how terrible nintento is marketing things.

lol ok

It matters because without good marketing you get poor consumer knowledge and have a ton of people thinking one thing when it is actually the opposite.

It matters to Nintendo. It doesn't change anything about the product itself.

In short...the new system is a solution looking for a problem

I'm sure you and your anecdotal evidence with one DS totally nullifies any market research Nintendo has done.

Broken hinges are a very real problem. Google it.
3D affecting the eyes of kid's is a very real concern. Google it.
And a lower price point is always helpful, especially when trying to market to the parents of small children.

with a bad design. It looks like they came up with this design yesterday.

EDIT: I'll just agree to disagree, because we are kind of hogging this thread.

 

[Broburger]

I like it.

 

[bolinder]

Hmmm. I know my kids have already added it to their wishlist and I learned what it is in this post. I think Nintendo will find buyers.

My poor kids, their last Nintendo handheld is the DS. What horrible parents!

I still want the 3DSXL before I buy this one.

 

[hans030390]

You can say whatever you want but I have had a DS(the original 2D model from years ago) since day one and it doesn't have a broke hinge and it has never even felt flimsy.

Well, that's certainly good for you, but the DS has a history of having crappy hinges. IIRC, though, it was the DS Lite that was most susceptible to this. It was actually a pretty big problem that was widely talked about online. You must be new to the internet if you weren't aware of this.

The original DS felt more sturdy, IMO.

 

[waggy]

Well, that's certainly good for you, but the DS has a history of having crappy hinges. IIRC, though, it was the DS Lite that was most susceptible to this. It was actually a pretty big problem that was widely talked about online. You must be new to the internet if you weren't aware of this.

The original DS felt more sturdy, IMO.

the orginal DS was Sturdy (i have one) and never had a problem with it. got both my kids DS lite's and both have cracked hinges. Got then upgraded and got all 3 of us the DSI XL's and the hing on my daughters broke. wich oddly it is the LEAST played and best taken care of.

My sons DSIXL does not read cartridges half the time.

saying that odds are i will get myself and my son the 2d. depends on screen size.

 

[Dumac]

http://nintendo1ds.com/

Introducing the Nintendo 1DS.

 

[ImpulsE69]

http://nintendo1ds.com/

Introducing the Nintendo 1DS.

Wait..wut? Is that real? How exactly will that work I wonder...

/nevermind...sadly no.