Medical Practices Blend Health and Faith

Todd33

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co...rticle/2006/08/30/AR2006083003290.html

The practice combines "the best of modern medicine with the healing presence of Jesus Christ," a brochure at the reception desk announces. An image of the Madonna greets every patient. Doctors, nurses and staff members gather to pray each day before the first appointments.

The center is one of a small but growing number of practices around the country that tailor the care they provide to the religious beliefs of their doctors, shunning birth-control and morning-after pills, IUDs and other contraceptive devices, sterilizations, and abortions, as well as in vitro fertilization. Instead, doctors offer "natural family planning" -- teaching couples to monitor a woman's temperature and other bodily signals to time intercourse.

The whole artical is three pages.

If you truly have faith, then don't see a doctor and let God fix everything. If you lack faith and need medical science, then don't shun such simple things as birth control. If you are having issues having children, God doesn't want you to. If you don't think God has anything to do with it, use medical science and see a real specialist and not some nut-job. If I go to a doctor I don't want to know his or her religion and I don't want my options limited. If you are going to be some priest-doctor hybrid then make it clear and put a huge cross and picture of Jesus all over your building and literature so sane people can avoid you like the quack you are.
 

magomago

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Originally posted by: Todd33
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co...rticle/2006/08/30/AR2006083003290.html

The practice combines "the best of modern medicine with the healing presence of Jesus Christ," a brochure at the reception desk announces. An image of the Madonna greets every patient. Doctors, nurses and staff members gather to pray each day before the first appointments.

The center is one of a small but growing number of practices around the country that tailor the care they provide to the religious beliefs of their doctors, shunning birth-control and morning-after pills, IUDs and other contraceptive devices, sterilizations, and abortions, as well as in vitro fertilization. Instead, doctors offer "natural family planning" -- teaching couples to monitor a woman's temperature and other bodily signals to time intercourse.

The whole artical is three pages.

If you truly have faith, then don't see a doctor and let God fix everything. If you lack faith and need medical science, then don't shun such simple things as birth control. If you are having issues having children, God doesn't want you to. If you don't think God has anything to do with it, use medical science and see a real specialist and not some nut-job. If I go to a doctor I don't want to know his or her religion and I don't want my options limited. If you are going to be some priest-doctor hybrid then make it clear and put a huge cross and picture of Jesus all over your building and literature so sane people can avoid you like the quack you are.

I think that is the key point that people should be focusing on.

However that said, I don't see what is wrong with more "natural methods" such as trying to pinpoint the time in which a female is most fertile, regardless of if a person tactfully makes love to his wife on a certain date, or tries to ensure that the room is at a certain temperature.

And as a religious person...If I wanted a child, I'm sure God would come on my mind since the child is a creation of new life and causes people to think about those things. That seems only natural, but I'm not so sure about the whole "religious experience" of pictures and painting and crosses everywhere...because faith is more of an internal thing get as great of a doctor as you can and believe in yourself. Having the doctor wear a superficial cross probably won't do anything.
 

spidey07

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well study after study prove that faith promotes healing. Additionally religion/faith accounts for a longer, healthier, happier life. Many doctors are going this approach now that the positive affects are proven.

So this is a GOOD thing.
:thumbsup:
 

Kwaipie

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Originally posted by: spidey07
well study after study prove that faith promotes healing. Additionally religion/faith accounts for a longer, healthier, happier life. Many doctors are going this approach now that the positive affects are proven.

So this is a GOOD thing.
:thumbsup:

Which study after study are you speaking of? I think you are speaking personal opinion.

Linky to the study I found
 

Moonbeam

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I can't explain faith healing. I have the capacity to understand everything. Therefore, it does not exist.
 

tersome

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Originally posted by: spidey07
well study after study prove that faith promotes healing. Additionally religion/faith accounts for a longer, healthier, happier life. Many doctors are going this approach now that the positive affects are proven.

So this is a GOOD thing.
:thumbsup:

Studies point either way. It depends on who funds them.

Jesus, Flying Spaghetti Monster, what's the difference?

 

Corn

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Originally posted by: Todd33


If you truly have faith, then don't see a doctor and let God fix everything. If you lack faith and need medical science, then don't shun such simple things as birth control. If you are having issues having children, God doesn't want you to......blah blah blah......

Here we have the OP, fearful and non-believing of religion, preaching to the religious on what to, and not, to do.......I'm amused at how ridiculous this thread is. P&N is certainly good for a chuckle a day. Well done.
 

Todd33

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Originally posted by: spidey07
well study after study prove that faith promotes healing. Additionally religion/faith accounts for a longer, healthier, happier life. Many doctors are going this approach now that the positive affects are proven.

So this is a GOOD thing.
:thumbsup:

Placebo studies show the same thing. I guess lying to yourself and get lied to are both good for your health. Grats to ignorance.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: spidey07
well study after study prove that faith promotes healing. Additionally religion/faith accounts for a longer, healthier, happier life. Many doctors are going this approach now that the positive affects are proven.

So this is a GOOD thing.
:thumbsup:

Placebo studies show the same thing. I guess lying to yourself and get lied to are both good for your health. Grats to ignorance.

So true. It just enrages me them bastards and their retarded belief get to cure themselves with their ignorance and I gotta die of the same disease cause I know it will kill me. Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit, it pisses me off.
 

jackschmittusa

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Hmmmm....witch doctors only use some meds and practices that fit with their beliefs, rejecting those that do not; call upon the gods to assist their meager ministrations, use mystic images and symbols to magnify their abilities, etc.. Why does this sound familiar?
 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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I could also claim that God granted man science and medicine to rely on as an adjunct for prayer. So denying your meds is ignoring God's presence in your life. Personally, I think a combination of faith in the Spiritual and the physical is great. For me, God is not isolated in His miracles to the realm of the psychic but through nature and man's work comes medicines that can prolong my stay here. That is great. Absolute faith does not preclude physical reality adjuncts for me for those adjuncts are contained within God. MMMM diatribe over God and Science. I love my diatribes. :laugh: (I should be detached but just when I think I am free my diatribes pull me back in).