Medical Marijuana I'm confused

[TechBoyJK]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/18/marijuana-provides-pain-r_n_466993.html

I think this is the same

http://blog.norml.org/2010/02/17/‘g...ed-marijuana-is-medically-safe-and-effective/

 

[IceBergSLiM]

old news is old.

 

[bfdd]

I honestly don't see what the confusion is. If you wanted to get a prescription for say... Prozac, you go to the doctor and tell him a few keywords for X amount of money and you get a License to take a very powerful drug.

What's the difference? I don't see any. If MJ was a legal over the counter drug then you don't need a "medical" doctors signature to get it. How do you think you get a prescription for ANY OTHER DRUG??? What did you want him to shove something up your ass and make you jump through 5000 hoops to get your medical marijuana card? Get real...

Medical marijuana is NOT a prescription it is a recommendation and is still federally illegal. I cannot get in a plane to go to NY and bring my "medical marijuana" with me because I need it for nausea, instead I would have to bring the anti-psychotic that helps my nausea on the plane and be forced to deal with something I really don't want to. It's a very big difference and I honestly thought it would be a bit more of an "interrogation" vs me putting my pills on the desk and telling the dude I have pretty bad anxiety problems(the main issue with me dropping out of high school 7+ years ago.)

Quite true. Also, chemo patients are some of the biggest benefactors of smoking grass. I never had chemo - thyroid cancer uses radioactive iodine only - but I've known a lot of people who have suffered through it. One of the biggest problems is weight loss and the attendant loss of an already-nuked immune system due to the malnutrition caused by extreme nausea. You can't eat anything and keep it down. Smoking grass prevents or minimizes that nausea and causes the munchies to boot, and for any friend going into chemo I recommend that he or she finds a safe source of grass. I also knew a girl with an inoperative brain tumor who found that grass gave better benefits with lower side effects (and way lower cost) than any medicine she had been prescribed, and smoking worked best because she too was prone to bouts of nausea. And my daughter, recently deceased, found that smoking grass helped more than her anti-spasming drugs with no side effects and also let her take less pain medication (she was crippled in an automobile accident.)

I won't say it's a wonder drug and I'd advocate eating rather than smoking it where practical, but it definitely has its uses. I've never used it (one of the few children of the sixties who can say that) and have no intention to do so even if it becomes legal in Tennessee, but if I were facing chemo I'd seek it out and smoke it.

Funny I'm actually taking it for nausea because I've been basically perpetually sick since Thanksgiving and been unable to eat for the most part going on 3+ weeks now. Yesterday I worked from home and smoked most the day(went through about 2 grams) I haven't eaten that much in months. Felt nice to actually feel hungry and eat vs feeling like I want to vomit.

 

[werepossum]

Medical marijuana is NOT a prescription it is a recommendation and is still federally illegal. I cannot get in a plane to go to NY and bring my "medical marijuana" with me because I need it for nausea, instead I would have to bring the anti-psychotic that helps my nausea on the plane and be forced to deal with something I really don't want to. It's a very big difference and I honestly thought it would be a bit more of an "interrogation" vs me putting my pills on the desk and telling the dude I have pretty bad anxiety problems(the main issue with me dropping out of high school 7+ years ago.)



Funny I'm actually taking it for nausea because I've been basically perpetually sick since Thanksgiving and been unable to eat for the most part going on 3+ weeks now. Yesterday I worked from home and smoked most the day(went through about 2 grams) I haven't eaten that much in months. Felt nice to actually feel hungry and eat vs feeling like I want to vomit.

Can't beat grass for combating nausea. I hope you're getting a full workup on that nausea though, as serious things in your brain can also cause perpetual nausea. (Of course, bacterial infections are much more commonly the culprit, but gotta honor the threat.)

 

[Zorkorist]

The really sad thing, that people abusing this system will eventually find out, is that drugs are bad.

For the folks that need and get great benefit from weed., more power to them.

-John

 

[bfdd]

The really sad thing, that people abusing this system will eventually find out, is that drugs are bad.

For the folks that need and get great benefit from weed., more power to them.

-John

I think MOST folks can benefit from weed. It's an amazing stress reliever.

 

[TruePaige]

The really sad thing, that people abusing this system will eventually find out, is that drugs are bad.

For the folks that need and get great benefit from weed., more power to them.

-John

Drugs are not bad.

It's all about personal responsibility.

It's another "epic fail" on conservatives that preach "personal responsibility" yet say that the government needs to ban things "for your own good".

What a joke.

 

[Zorkorist]

In general, drugs are bad.

In specific situations, drugs are good.

There's really nothing about personal responsibility,since once you are on drugs, you cannot have personal responsibility.

Some people tell me how happy they are now that insurance is going to pay for their drugs...

I only smile and say OK, but I know they are dead.

It's like George Orwell's 1984... would you like SOMA?

-John

 

[Ns1]

In general, drugs are bad.

There's really nothing about personal responsibility,since once you are on drugs, you cannot have personal responsibility.

fucking BULL SHIT.

 

[Zorkorist]

Are you high?

By definition you have an altered mind. Not! a normal mind.

And if you want to take drugs, there ARE consequences.

-John

 

[Vic]

In general, drugs are bad.

In specific situations, drugs are good.

There's really nothing about personal responsibility,since once you are on drugs, you cannot have personal responsibility.

Some people tell me how happy they are now that insurance is going to pay for their drugs...

I only smile and say OK, but I know they are dead.

It's like George Orwell's 1984... would you like SOMA?

-John

You're confused and arguing the opposite position from what you're think you're arguing.

The situation RIGHT NOW is like 1984. The govt right now is empowered to dictate what drugs we can (or should) take (with its blessing and "its" money) and what drugs we must not take (or face punishment). The fight against the govt's "war on drugs" is about ending that 1984-like environment. Ending the "war on drugs" is about restoring to the people -- restoring to the individual -- their inherent right to self-medicate as they see fit (and consequently, to dictate their own fate). IOW, we're fighting 1984. You're not helping here, just bleating.

 

[Vic]

fucking BULL SHIT.

He's just bleating decades of govt propaganda. You see, he believes he's protecting us from ourselves from the evils of drugs by empowering govt with the right to dictate which drugs we must and must not take. He also believes that any attempt to stop protecting us from ourselves from the evils of drugs would mean empowering govt with the right to dictate drugs we must and must not take. This is why Orwell called such brainwashing a "doublethink."

 

[Zorkorist]

No, sorry VIC.

The only thing Government would want, more than we want to be stoned, is for us all to be stoned.

-John

 

[Vic]

Are you high?

By definition you have an altered mind. Not! a normal mind.

And if you want to take drugs, there ARE consequences.

-John

Of course there are. Who said there weren't consequences? Sounds like you're the one with the "altered mind" with your imagined straw man here.

 

[Zorkorist]

Ahh, George Orwell's 1984 is now a straw man.

Double talk, much?

-John

 

[Vic]

No, sorry VIC.

The only thing Government would want, more than we want to be stoned, is for us all to be stoned.

-John

Yeah, so we would all question our existence and thus question all authority and custom? And all of us become a bunch of rebellious anti-authority hippies? Clearly you don't know what the fuck you're blathering about. But you just keep telling yourself that you're fighting the good anti-govt fight by empowering govt with the absolute control over our own bodies.

 

[Vic]

Ahh, George Orwell's 1984 is now a straw man.

Double talk, much?

-John

Wow... did you never actually read the book? Or did you just fail completely to understand it?

 

[Zorkorist]

I'm done with you Vic...

If you want to bring it back on topic, go for it.

-John

 

[TruePaige]

Of course there are. Who said there weren't consequences? Sounds like you're the one with the "altered mind" with your imagined straw man here.

The irony in some of Zork from Ork's statements is a comedic tragedy, Vic.

 

[TruePaige]

I'm done with you Vic...

If you want to bring it back on topic, go for it.

-John

Seriously, it's the truth. You've taken the exact opposite of the intended position of the book you are citing as giving credence to your position. :awe:

 

[Zorkorist]

I don't think I have Paige, and as I recall, I attacked your thoghts way up there.

So, don't, try and tell me what I did.

-John

 

[TruePaige]

I don't think I have Paige, and as I recall, I attacked your thoghts way up there.

So, don't, try and tell me what I did.

-John

Anybody can attack a position, it takes an intelligent person to support a position.

Just do a little :hmm:.

 

[Zorkorist]

Ahh, I see... I'd be in like flinn,if I only tooted a bit

-John

 

[Vic]

How about just try actually reading a book the next time you decide to cite as an authority to support your argument, eh?

Soma is from Huxley's "Brave New World."

 

[Zorkorist]

Dud,

I know George Orwell's 1984 better than you could AFTER TRYING TO READ IT 40,000, TIMES.

-John