Info MediaTek Dimensity 9000, Cortex-X2 big core, TSMC N4

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Doug S

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If Mediatek is using N4 they aren't using what Apple will be for A16, which according to Digitimes will be made using NP4.
 
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What are you expecting from the lowest level cores that they are capable of disappointing you?
Well, even ARMs own projections look quite underwhelming WRT performance and energy efficiency considering this is a re-design after five whopping years.
And they were mostly spot on in the last years.
But at least Mediatek did not go for the shared simd/fp pipeline.

 
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Well, even ARMs own projections look quite underwhelming WRT performance and energy efficiency considering this is a re-design after five whopping years.
And they were mostly spot on in the last years.
But at least Mediatek did not go for the shared simd/fp pipeline.
Sure, but we knew that before Dimensity 9000 already. The way @DrMrLordX wrote it it seemed like the A510 cores are "sure-to-be-disappointing" on top of that. Or is he already disappointed that MediaTek picked A510 cores instead older A5x ones? That's why I asked him for clarification.
 

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At least they are keeping them individual cores, and didn't go full Bulldozer.
Moot point, and not that I miss them, but I wonder how the Bulldozer cores would do with the massive front end improvements the Zens got. For integer at least. The point of looking elsewhere for floating point would remain.
 
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Sure, but we knew that before Dimensity 9000 already. The way @DrMrLordX wrote it it seemed like the A510 cores are "sure-to-be-disappointing" on top of that. Or is he already disappointed that MediaTek picked A510 cores instead older A5x ones? That's why I asked him for clarification.
Ah, I see. I understood it more generally just as a reminder of the strong indications that there is not a lot to be expected from ARMs latest and greatest little core compared to their biggest SoC design competitor.
 

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So, I don't follow ARM developments much, but - Dimensity?? Was MediaTek's head of marketing on drugs at the time?
 

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So, I don't follow ARM developments much, but - Dimensity?? Was MediaTek's head of marketing on drugs at the time?
I mean, it came from a company called MediaTek... Spelling or using proper English isn't their forte.
 

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What are you expecting from the lowest level cores that they are capable of disappointing you?
Nothing good. See below.

Ah, I see. I understood it more generally just as a reminder of the strong indications that there is not a lot to be expected from ARMs latest and greatest little core compared to their biggest SoC design competitor.
Indeed. A510 is just underwhelming. Wish they had something better they could use instead. I have a sneaking suspicion that one of the major differences between bog-standard ARM designs and what Qualcomm rolls out in 2023 courtesy of their Nuvia team will be in their small cores.
 
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