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Media Center on Vista streaming to XBOX 360...

Cuda1447

Lifer
alright, so I finally decided to setup my Vista laptop to stream media to my 360. Works fine. Music comes out good, pictures no problem. Standard video works fine too. HD video seems to be another issue. The playback is all laggy and crap. I figured the 360 had the processing power to handle HD content, was I wrong on this?


Anyone else had any success with this, or have any idea why this isn't working?
 
HD video often takes around 2 megabytes or 16 megabits per second minimum to play.

Therefore if your wireless connection isn't actually at least sustaining around 24 to 30 megabits per second you'll get stuttering and dropouts.

Even though your wireless may be capable of speeds of 54 Mbit/sec or more, it often will operate at lower speeds due to interference and weak signals etc.

 
Alright, good info. So I have to either run it wired for HD content, something which is possible although I'd prefer not to do, or find a way to optimize my wireless connection. The actual router/laptop are literally 10 feet away so range should not be a problem. Anyone know any tools I can download to test the signal of my wireless connection accurately while I tinker with different settings? Also, any idea what settings in particular I should try tinkering with?


Thanks for the info.
 
Try just doing a file to file transfer between two computers at similar range to find how fast you can transfer.

My WRT54GL would do absolutely craptacular speeds at 20 feet... like 1MB/s. Got a Wireless N router now, it does 9MB/s for the same distance.
 
I just found this post and my eyes are wide open. I am currently doing something like the OP. I am using my computer to stream video/music to my PS3 via wireless.

Everything works well EXCEPT pretty much any decent quality or HD video. It streams it but it's always laggy and stuttering and totally unplayable. I am over a wireless network in a small condo where my connection quality says "excellent" and usually connects at like 48 or 54g speed.

I decided after reading this to try grabbing a file from one of my computers to the other over my wireless and I got a sustained speed or roughly 1MB/Second. I thought this was good??? I am using a DLINK 624 54G based router and g based wireless card on both computers.

No amount of encoding/recoding of movie files allows me to get really nice quality and play over my current connection without massive stuttering unless I really kill the quality of the video output. Mind you I work around it by simply copying the files to an external USB drive and connecting that to my PS3.

I meant to kick in here because Scouzer noted that when he went to an N based wireless he noted an increase in speed from around 1 MB to 9MB?? if I could even come close to that speed with a N based Router.. I would be all over that. Do you also have an N based wireless card?? In other words to get this speed I would need both an N router and N card to do this? My issue is that my PS3 is not N based so that will never ever receive anything faster than what it currently does sigh. Or just going to an N router would help the over all speed?
 
Bobo, I may be wrong but I'm almost 100% certain you would need an N card and an N router. If I'm not mistaken those are still pretty costly too. Have you tried hardwiring the connection, or is that not an option? I'm probably going to try hardwiring mine and seeing how that works. While we are on the topic, does anyone know of any better software to use to share the media to the 360, the WMP11 blows IMO.
 
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Bobo, I may be wrong but I'm almost 100% certain you would need an N card and an N router. If I'm not mistaken those are still pretty costly too. Have you tried hardwiring the connection, or is that not an option? I'm probably going to try hardwiring mine and seeing how that works. While we are on the topic, does anyone know of any better software to use to share the media to the 360, the WMP11 blows IMO.

Correct. I have a the Trendnet TEW-633GR plus Intel 4965 Wireless N... so it's a good mix.
 
Originally posted by: QuixoticOne
HD video often takes around 2 megabytes or 16 megabits per second minimum to play.

Therefore if your wireless connection isn't actually at least sustaining around 24 to 30 megabits per second you'll get stuttering and dropouts.

Even though your wireless may be capable of speeds of 54 Mbit/sec or more, it often will operate at lower speeds due to interference and weak signals etc.



wireless G has a lot of "overhead" which lowers the effective speed to WAYYYYY less than 54Mbit

for me, the best I could get was like... 8Mbit downloads =S last time I checked. And this was less than a foot away from the antenna.


look OP: if you're serious about streaming, forget wireless. even a tiny bit of packet loss will make video utterly terrible to watch. go for wired
 
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
While we are on the topic, does anyone know of any better software to use to share the media to the 360, the WMP11 blows IMO.

I use TVersity. I'm not sure if it's any better than WMP11, but it's easier to set up and is reliable. I use it to stream both to my 360 and my PS3. Also, for the record, I can stream 1080p video completely stutter free, but I'm using a wired connection. Just pointing that out to confirm that it's not a horsepower issue with the 360.
 
I also use TVERSITY... works wonders and allows me to let the PC do the decoding if the PS3 cannot on certain video files. Just make sure you state what size you want your video ouput to be. By default Tversity really scaled it down does it not? I actally place 720p specs in the boxes.

In regards to hard wiring... well guess what. I found a few more posts in regards to this. In my case there is no way I will hard wire my PC to the router as it's simply not feasible. However I can hardwire the PS3 directly to the router rather than having the PS3 also wireless. From what I read this, to many, made a HUGE difference -- as long as the PS3 is connected directly. In this case I no longer care about the fact the PS3 is only "g" since it will be wired.

Then I can go and get a N based PCi card (sigh those are expensive) and conenct to my "new" N based router. I tried last night using the new Dlink 635 N based along with my built in wireless card in my Asus P5K-E WiFI and the speed was still SHITE compared to what I read others could get. Guess I will bite the bullet -- get a new N based card and see how that works.

thanks!
 
I'd like to see a house where wired ethernet is not feasible. you can get a 100 foot ethernet cable for $12, and those little thingies that hold cables to a wall at the hardware store for $2.99, or a whole bunch for $10.

Wireless N on the other hand....... not so cheap 🙂

I've set this up in a 3 story townhouse to deliver wired ethernet to all computers on all 3 floors. Wireless is for laptops and casual browsing only IMO
🙂



Also FWIW, I could not get TVersity to work with my PS3. It just REFUSED to see the shared files. I am no slouch when it comes to network problems, so I don't know if this was vista's fault or whether it was simply PEBCAK, but I ultimately just gave up.

I have no problems with WMP 11 though, although some files don't work unless I encode them myself. (Using mediacoder for this)
 
I sit right beside my router at home with my laptop. I haven't bothered to run a wire from the router to the PC. Wireless is perfectly acceptable for any uses, including gaming and P2P.
 
Tversity has issues sometimes or I should say the connecting media player does for me. At times it won?t see the shared files/folders. What I do is refresh the media on the PC in Tversity, hit save configuration a few times and presto it pops up.

As an update, I hardwired my PS3 to the N router but kept my PC still wireless (although the wireless card in that is only a G). Anyhow I can now view, and I mean flawlessly, .VOB files with no problems at all. These are movie I own that I ripped to my hardrive into .ISO files and then opened them up with winrar. The quality is just like watching them on my DVD player with no lag this time.

I did try watching a HD/BD rip of a movie in MKV (well I converted the MKV to MP4 using MKV2VOB) and I was "'almost" able to view it flawlessly on the PS3 from the Tversity. Still the bitrate is too high at times and it would chop up hitting 25mb/s at times.

I am looking for a different media server... I loved Tversity but lately it's giving me issues. I might try the Nero media server or something else. Anyhow I guess the next step is to get the N wireless card and that way at least the data going to the router will be faster... as I no longer have to worry about the connection to the PS3.
 
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