Meanwhile, back in DC, it's time to repeal the ACA (again)

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theeedude

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Another lump of coal for sick and working poor Americans from the Republicans.
 

boomerang

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No need to shed any tears. Obama will just veto it. Brace yourselves for more legislation like this in the next 11 months. The name of the game now is to paint Democrats as donkey's driving an agenda the majority of the people don't want. Congress will push everything through they can that will result in a veto.

Turnabout is fair play.
 

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Majority of the country doesn't want to allow insurers to discriminate based on preexisting conditions. Or cut deduction for medical expenses from 10% to 7.5% of income, aka increase taxes on sick people while throwing them off insurance.
 
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No need to shed any tears. Obama will just veto it. Brace yourselves for more legislation like this in the next 11 months. The name of the game now is to paint Democrats as donkey's driving an agenda the majority of the people don't want. Congress will push everything through they can that will result in a veto.

Turnabout is fair play.

I'm sorry are you claiming a majority of Americans want PP defunded? Can you show me those polls. The ones I find are overwhelmingly opposed to that.

As for the Affordable Care Act, last polls I recall on that had it an even split which considering it was tilting previously towards repeal doesn't really fit what you are saying.

What they do see is the GOP continuing to waste time and money on votest that they have taken dozens of times in the past that they know will go nowhere.
 

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I wonder if we'll get to see the government shutdown bogeyman with a merging of this and another debt limit vote?
 

boomerang

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What they do see is the GOP continuing to waste time and money on votest that they have taken dozens of times in the past that they know will go nowhere.
Let me know when they stick their hands in your pockets.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...amacare_s_insurance_mandate_continues_to_fall

Our latest national telephone survey finds that just 32% of Likely U.S. Voters believe the government should require every American to buy or obtain health insurance. This number has been trending down all year and is the lowest level of support since we began asking this question regularly in 2012. Most voters (56%) continue to oppose Obamacare’s insurance requirement, but this is the highest level of opposition in nearly two years. Twelve percent (12%) remain undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
And I am not claiming the majority of Americans want PP defunded. Your conclusion is an incorrect one.

And as long as I'm here, the quote in the OP from the article is a sensationalized one. The bill's purpose was to repeal large parts of Obamacare not the legislation in its entirety.

Until Democrats decide that there must be some changes made to this grossly misconceived, unworkable and unaffordable legislation, I would expect these bills to be coming with regularity.

It's not perfect, it needs to be changed and the only people that want to make it better cannot get any cooperation. The finger pointing just ensures the can will keep getting kicked down the road.

As with many things, nothing is going to change with Obama in the White House. That doesn't mean that Republicans should stop trying.

It was a Republican plan. They shitcanned it. There was a reason for that. Democrats, instead of improving it, took the low road, the easy road dusted it off and rammed it through. Now, they sit back and blame everyone but themselves. It's the kind of game I expect to see out of grade school kids not Democrats elected to Congress. But it is what it is.

If it's going to be improved, it has to be amended. There is no other way to do it. Common sense. If it's not amended, it has to be repealed with a fresh go at it. Common sense.
 

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Let me know when they stick their hands in your pockets.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...amacare_s_insurance_mandate_continues_to_fall

And I am not claiming the majority of Americans want PP defunded. Your conclusion is an incorrect one.

And as long as I'm here, the quote in the OP from the article is a sensationalized one. The bill's purpose was to repeal large parts of Obamacare not the legislation in its entirety.

Until Democrats decide that there must be some changes made to this grossly misconceived, unworkable and unaffordable legislation, I would expect these bills to be coming with regularity.

It's not perfect, it needs to be changed and the only people that want to make it better cannot get any cooperation. The finger pointing just ensures the can will keep getting kicked down the road.

As with many things, nothing is going to change with Obama in the White House. That doesn't mean that Republicans should stop trying.

It was a Republican plan. They shitcanned it. There was a reason for that. Democrats, instead of improving it, took the low road, the easy road dusted it off and rammed it through. Now, they sit back and blame everyone but themselves. It's the kind of game I expect to see out of grade school kids not Democrats elected to Congress. But it is what it is.

If it's going to be improved, it has to be amended. There is no other way to do it. Common sense. If it's not amended, it has to be repealed with a fresh go at it. Common sense.

The amount of self delusion here is amazing.

While I agree that parts of the ACA need to be fixed, Republicans are actually the ones that refuse to do that as they have repeatedly stated that they will not accept anything less than a full repeal.

If Republicans finally wake up and decide they want to improve the ACA that would be great! I predict continued temper tantrums instead, however.
 

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GOP is not trying to fix anything. They are just trying to throw people of Medicaid and allow insurers to discriminate against people with pre-existing conditions again.
 

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Well I can rest easy knowing the GOP is on the job, the job of not actually legislating but instead feeding a steady diet of red meat to their base, that is. It's a craving and they're dutifully satisfying it.

After all, isn't that what real public service is about in this country?
 
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Well I can rest easy knowing the GOP is on the job, the job of not actually legislating but instead feeding a steady diet of red meat to their base, that is. It's a craving and they're dutifully satisfying it.

After all, isn't that what real public service is about in this country?

30 Rock - Season 2 Episode 15.
 

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the dems should go along with it for the lols. Ok you want to repeal it all crazy like? Sure lets try it.
 

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the dems should go along with it for the lols. Ok you want to repeal it all crazy like? Sure lets try it.

But as we all already know, this is something the Repubs are betting their whole stack on that it will never happen.

They absolutely do not want Obama to let their repeal measure pass. If it ever did, it would be such an epic backfire on the Repub's part as the Repubs have nothing better to replace it with, but only something worse: go back to the way things were before the ACA was passed.

The Repub's only recourse is to fuck around with and re-brand the ACA to their liking and claim it as their own, just as Gov. Romney had it in his state.
 

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Let me know when they stick their hands in your pockets.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...amacare_s_insurance_mandate_continues_to_fall

And I am not claiming the majority of Americans want PP defunded. Your conclusion is an incorrect one.

And as long as I'm here, the quote in the OP from the article is a sensationalized one. The bill's purpose was to repeal large parts of Obamacare not the legislation in its entirety.

Until Democrats decide that there must be some changes made to this grossly misconceived, unworkable and unaffordable legislation, I would expect these bills to be coming with regularity.

It's not perfect, it needs to be changed and the only people that want to make it better cannot get any cooperation. The finger pointing just ensures the can will keep getting kicked down the road.

As with many things, nothing is going to change with Obama in the White House. That doesn't mean that Republicans should stop trying.

It was a Republican plan. They shitcanned it. There was a reason for that. Democrats, instead of improving it, took the low road, the easy road dusted it off and rammed it through. Now, they sit back and blame everyone but themselves. It's the kind of game I expect to see out of grade school kids not Democrats elected to Congress. But it is what it is.

If it's going to be improved, it has to be amended. There is no other way to do it. Common sense. If it's not amended, it has to be repealed with a fresh go at it. Common sense.

You might as well go yell at the clouds.

First, substantiate the assertion that he ACA doesn't work.

Next, take a look at the question itself, which is really quite vague-

Should the government require every American to buy or obtain health insurance?

If tailored to fit the reality of the ACA, I'm sure that responses would be different.

Taking into account the extension of medicaid to low income families & subsidies to make it affordable, Should the government require every American to buy or obtain health insurance?

What we're seeing is the usual base pandering & minority claims of being the majority, an attempt to bandwagon their agenda.

But, please, keep making the same quixotic statement, over & over. Shut down the govt a few times between now & the election to show us how much you really care about this country. See just how far you can go before the majority gets sick of your shit.
 
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