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tho

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hello all,

im just about to finish uni this semester and ive been thinking about getting myself certified. Just wondering, coming from a bachelor of computing degree, is it difficult for me to do mcp, msca, mcse or even some linux certifications(linux+ or rhce)?

would it be easy for me to pick up these certification. Hope someone can point me to the right direction. thank you in advance
 
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Shelly21

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Strategically take 7 tests for MCSE that would give you MCSA and MCP at the sametime.

Very easy.
 
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tho

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when you say experience, what exactly do you mean?

ive built my own computer, did some disk cloning using norton ghost, home networking, bios and installing basic dual boot systems. Pretty straight forward stuff, should i consider this experience?

how are the tests like and how do they test you? im very very curious

if mcp, msce, and mcsa are easy, what about rhce and linux+?
 
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TommyVercetti

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Originally posted by: tho
when you say experience, what exactly do you mean?

ive built my own computer, did some disk cloning using norton ghost, home networking, bios and installing basic dual boot systems. Pretty straight forward stuff, should i consider this experience?
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A lot of MCSE is about Active Directory, Exchange and security. Those skills you listed don't really have much to do with that.
 
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Ameesh

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Originally posted by: tho
hello all,

im just about to finish uni this semester and ive been thinking about getting myself certified. Just wondering, coming from a bachelor of computing degree, is it difficult for me to do mcp, msca, mcse or even some linux certifications(linux+ or rhce)?

would it be easy for me to pick up these certification. Hope someone can point me to the right direction. thank you in advance
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your BS is far more valuable then the certs, i seriously dont think its worth the time and money spent and if you do get the certs you will be undercutting the value of your degree.
 
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ericb

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Get the certs. I have two BS degrees (Business and MIS) and 10 years experience as a Networking/Systems manager. I've been turned down in two interviews in the past couple weeks and I knew it was lost as soon as they asked "What certs do you have?" The HR and paper pushers do NOT understand that they are paper certs and don't mean much of anything.
 
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Originally posted by: tho
when you say experience, what exactly do you mean?

ive built my own computer, did some disk cloning using norton ghost, home networking, bios and installing basic dual boot systems. Pretty straight forward stuff, should i consider this experience?

how are the tests like and how do they test you? im very very curious

if mcp, msce, and mcsa are easy, what about rhce and linux+?
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Going to need alot more experience then that. Pick up a couple of books.

The tests are adaptive. As soon as you miss one question, it will keep on hammering you with that kind of question until you either fail or convince it that you know it.

I wouldn't consider them hard unless you have 0 experience in that kind of environment.
 
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LuckyTaxi

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Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Originally posted by: lilcam
is it worth it anymore??!
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I'd say it is, if he is planning on becoming a Network Engineer/Admin.
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Hmmmm ... true, but I have about 5 years experience w/ a college degree and I can't find a freaking job. I am currently employ as a network admin but would like to go elsewhere. Oh well, it beats not having a job.

Maybe a cert or two wouldnt hurt to go along with my degree and experience.
 
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TreyRandom

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Certifications have helped me tremendously, as has my Bachelors degree. My BS is in Chemistry, not IT - but it's still been useful in my IT career.
 
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OutHouse

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Here is my take on it.

Myself and my co-worker just interviewed 12 people last week for our open position as a sys admin. we interviewed people with lots of certs with little experience and people with lots of experience with no certs. the people who have the experience are getting the second interview with our boss. The certs didnt mean crap to us and i have a cert with Citrix and the old NT MCSE.
 
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tho

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Yeah, i dont know what im getting myself into. my bs experience was great!

I want to do mcsa for 2000/2003. what books would you recommend? I mean the best books around. thanks

Would be nice to do some certifications in India. Hot climate, wonderful curries, stuff is cheap plus good tutors - what a combination!
 
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TreyRandom

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I would recommend the MSPress books. However, one source is NEVER enough for any certification studies. I'd get another set of books as well - hopefully, the 2nd set will fill in any holes left by the MSPress books.

I'm a fan of using practice exams to study, but make sure to read the explanations provided for each question. Know why the right answers are right AND why the wrong answers are wrong - because any of it is fair game on the live exam.
 
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Zugzwang152

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Originally posted by: tho
Yeah, i dont know what im getting myself into. my bs experience was great!

I want to do mcsa for 2000/2003. what books would you recommend? I mean the best books around. thanks

Would be nice to do some certifications in India. Hot climate, wonderful curries, stuff is cheap plus good tutors - what a combination!
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i'm currently studying uing the Exam Cram series of books. they are excellent review guides, but do not actually teach you the material. If you need to really sit down and learn the material, you will need to get a combination of books to cover all your bases.
 
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tho

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with all these books recommended, how would i learn the practical side of configuring and fixing microsoft components? Eg setting up a proxy server..
 
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Elbryn

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Originally posted by: tho
with all these books recommended, how would i learn the practical side of configuring and fixing microsoft components? Eg setting up a proxy server..
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setup a small home network and do it?
 
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TreyRandom

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You would... set up a proxy server. Limited-use (90-day, 120-day, 180-day) versions of most (if not all) of Microsoft's products are available for download. Search around on Microsoft's site - you'll find them.
 
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edro

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I am scheduled to do the MCDST training and tests next week. Work is paying for eveything, so I can't complain :D
 
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