McNabb says black QBs criticized more

[Deeko]

I think the NFL is extremely racist because there aren't more white running backs.

 

[Syringer]

Originally posted by: Dead3ye

Originally posted by: vi_edit
He needs to go home so his mom can make him a bowl of Campbell's Chunky Soup that he can cry into.

Not anymore. Campbell dropped him and his mom. They actually might want someone who plays a whole year to represent them.

It'd be great if it were Jason Campbell!

 

[eits]

i'm a hardcore skins fan and i've got something to say about this:

mcnabb is easily one of the most dignified and poised quarterbacks in the league. he's got class and is a tremendous athlete and competitor. give him a frigging break. he deserves some respect.

 

[pstylesss]

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: Syringer
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/...s&source=ESPNHeadlines

Yup, the criticism on him has nothing to do with the fact that he can't complete an entire season or play consistently, it's because he's black!

The timing for this interview to air couldn't be worse really either, he definitely hasn't made a good case for himself so far..

In his defense he doesnt seem healthy though. He isnt comfortable on his feet and you can tell by his throwing motion he isnt able to put everything into it because he cant rely on the knee yet.

You're only saying that because he's black.

 

[Syringer]

Originally posted by: eEvolve2

Originally posted by: daveymark
I'm sorry to say this, I don't think he's been that good from the get-go.

In his defense, and Im not Eagles fan, he has won roughly 66% of his games IIRC. Thats not too bad, really. Plus would you take a healthy Mcnabb or Rex Grossman/David Carr/Joey Harrington, etc. No one expects him to be Manning, but he is still one of the top 20 QBs on the planet and has been to a superbowl. Not to shabby.

Anyway, to the general topic, to say there isnt racism is just ignorant. I was reading a few message boards about the Titans Colts game last weekend; Comparing Vince Young to Mike Vick. What are the similarities? They Are both Black and both athletic. Anyone who knows anything will tell you VY is pure class and a far better QB then Vick.

So, racism does exist in the media, league and public, but Mcnabb is crying wolf , mainly because hes hurt and cant preform, IMO.

You're "ignorant" if you don't see the similarities. Last year they were the ONLY QBs who made things happen with their feet. Forget class, in terms of playing style, neither have great throwing abilities or mechanics, but both can run.

Last year Vick had 1039 yards rushing leading the QBs in that department, Vince Young had 552 to be in second, no one else was even close. Garrard (another *gasp* black QB) was third with 250.

Name me someone else who is even remotely similar to Vince that's white..

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: eits
mcnabb is easily one of the most dignified and poised quarterbacks in the league. he's got class and is a tremendous athlete and competitor. give him a frigging break. he deserves some respect.

Dignified? Please. I still respect McNabb as an athlete and a competitor, but I'm losing more and more respect for him as a person. First off, if McNabb had taken the high road, TO would still be an Eagle. Yes, TO was wrong to mouth off the way he did, but if McNabb had just kept it behind closed doors rather than making it a huge media spectacle, and inciting more from TO, it never would have blown up so much. Then there was the whole Reid-imposed media silence during the phase when Garcia was doing so well - smartest thing Reid has ever done, he should have kept it up, because McNabb tends to whine when the media questions him. He's done it twice already this year. First, when Kolb was drafted, he got defensive. Then, this "oh woe is me because I'm black" thing.

McNabb USED to be a dignified, respectable leader. Every day that reputation is sliding to "whiner".

 

[Syringer]

Originally posted by: Deeko
I think the NFL is extremely racist because there aren't more white running backs.

That's cuz them crackers is sLOW. Word?

 

[waggy]

Mnabb is a hell of a competitor. is he an elite QB? no. but he is sure a damn good "hybrid" one. he can run, throw and is nto easy to take down.

He is no Elway or such. but with the right personal he is great.

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: eEvolve2
Anyone who knows anything will tell you VY is pure class and a far better QB then Vick.

I fail to see how punching teammates during practice is pure class.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: daveymark
I'm sorry to say this, I don't think he's been that good from the get-go. I think what we've had here is a little social concern on the NFL. I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They're interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well.

I think you along with the drug addled fat bag of hot gas Rush Limbuagh are full of shit. Mcnabb was an elite QB until he started getting injured a lot. If it wasn't for him the Eagles would have never made it to their last Super Bowl appearance barely losing to a great Patriots team.

McNabb was never an elite QB. He was an average QB surrounded by good talent.

Now that that surrounding talent is gone he is showing that he is just an average NFL QB.

Yeah he was. If he would have been the QB for your suck ass Raiders when they played Tampa in the SB they probably wouldn't have been so embarrassed and might have actually won. His best days are probably in the past though.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: daveymark
I'm sorry to say this, I don't think he's been that good from the get-go. I think what we've had here is a little social concern on the NFL. I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They're interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well.

I think you along with the drug addled fat bag of hot gas Rush Limbuagh are full of shit. Mcnabb was an elite QB until he started getting injured a lot. If it wasn't for him the Eagles would have never made it to their last Super Bowl appearance barely losing to a great Patriots team.

McNabb was never an elite QB. He was an average QB surrounded by good talent.

Now that that surrounding talent is gone he is showing that he is just an average NFL QB.

Yeah he was. If he would have been the QB for your suck ass Raiders when they played Tampa in the SB they probably wouldn't have been so embarrassed and might have actually won. His best days are probably in the past though.

That loss has more to do with our idiot coach not changing the gameplan, signals, etc, etc, etc...from the year before when Gruden was the coach. The Tampa players even said as much. They knew everything the Raiders were going to do because it was still Gruden's playbook, calls, line audibles, signals, etc.... and he was coaching Tampa against his own team.

As for QB...I'll take Rich Gannon over McNabb any day. Still would.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: daveymark
I'm sorry to say this, I don't think he's been that good from the get-go. I think what we've had here is a little social concern on the NFL. I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They're interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well.

I think you along with the drug addled fat bag of hot gas Rush Limbuagh are full of shit. Mcnabb was an elite QB until he started getting injured a lot. If it wasn't for him the Eagles would have never made it to their last Super Bowl appearance barely losing to a great Patriots team.

McNabb was never an elite QB. He was an average QB surrounded by good talent.

Now that that surrounding talent is gone he is showing that he is just an average NFL QB.

Yeah he was. If he would have been the QB for your suck ass Raiders when they played Tampa in the SB they probably wouldn't have been so embarrassed and might have actually won. His best days are probably in the past though.

That loss has more to do with our idiot coach not changing the gameplan, signals, etc, etc, etc...from the year before when Gruden was the coach. The Tampa players even said as much. They knew everything the Raiders were going to do because it was still Gruden's playbook, calls, line audibles, signals, etc.... and he was coaching Tampa against his own team.

As for QB...I'll take Rich Gannon over McNabb any day. Still would.

HAHAHA what?!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: daveymark
I'm sorry to say this, I don't think he's been that good from the get-go. I think what we've had here is a little social concern on the NFL. I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They're interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well.

I think you along with the drug addled fat bag of hot gas Rush Limbuagh are full of shit. Mcnabb was an elite QB until he started getting injured a lot. If it wasn't for him the Eagles would have never made it to their last Super Bowl appearance barely losing to a great Patriots team.

McNabb was never an elite QB. He was an average QB surrounded by good talent.

Now that that surrounding talent is gone he is showing that he is just an average NFL QB.

Yeah he was. If he would have been the QB for your suck ass Raiders when they played Tampa in the SB they probably wouldn't have been so embarrassed and might have actually won. His best days are probably in the past though.

That loss has more to do with our idiot coach not changing the gameplan, signals, etc, etc, etc...from the year before when Gruden was the coach. The Tampa players even said as much. They knew everything the Raiders were going to do because it was still Gruden's playbook, calls, line audibles, signals, etc.... and he was coaching Tampa against his own team.

As for QB...I'll take Rich Gannon over McNabb any day. Still would.

I'd rather slam my balls in a car door than play Gannon:laugh:

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

As for QB...I'll take Rich Gannon over McNabb any day. Still would.

You're kidding, right? You forgot to include the wink or the smiley face or whatever, didn't you?

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: daveymark
I'm sorry to say this, I don't think he's been that good from the get-go. I think what we've had here is a little social concern on the NFL. I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They're interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well.

I think you along with the drug addled fat bag of hot gas Rush Limbuagh are full of shit. Mcnabb was an elite QB until he started getting injured a lot. If it wasn't for him the Eagles would have never made it to their last Super Bowl appearance barely losing to a great Patriots team.

McNabb was never an elite QB. He was an average QB surrounded by good talent.

Now that that surrounding talent is gone he is showing that he is just an average NFL QB.

Yeah he was. If he would have been the QB for your suck ass Raiders when they played Tampa in the SB they probably wouldn't have been so embarrassed and might have actually won. His best days are probably in the past though.

That loss has more to do with our idiot coach not changing the gameplan, signals, etc, etc, etc...from the year before when Gruden was the coach. The Tampa players even said as much. They knew everything the Raiders were going to do because it was still Gruden's playbook, calls, line audibles, signals, etc.... and he was coaching Tampa against his own team.

As for QB...I'll take Rich Gannon over McNabb any day. Still would.

now i agree McNabb is not one of the elites but Gannon over him? thats going to far!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: daveymark
I'm sorry to say this, I don't think he's been that good from the get-go. I think what we've had here is a little social concern on the NFL. I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They're interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well.

I think you along with the drug addled fat bag of hot gas Rush Limbuagh are full of shit. Mcnabb was an elite QB until he started getting injured a lot. If it wasn't for him the Eagles would have never made it to their last Super Bowl appearance barely losing to a great Patriots team.

McNabb was never an elite QB. He was an average QB surrounded by good talent.

Now that that surrounding talent is gone he is showing that he is just an average NFL QB.

Yeah he was. If he would have been the QB for your suck ass Raiders when they played Tampa in the SB they probably wouldn't have been so embarrassed and might have actually won. His best days are probably in the past though.

That loss has more to do with our idiot coach not changing the gameplan, signals, etc, etc, etc...from the year before when Gruden was the coach. The Tampa players even said as much. They knew everything the Raiders were going to do because it was still Gruden's playbook, calls, line audibles, signals, etc.... and he was coaching Tampa against his own team.

As for QB...I'll take Rich Gannon over McNabb any day. Still would.

now i agree McNabb is not one of the elites but Gannon over him? thats going to far!

He's definately not now and hasn't been since their appearance in the SB.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber

Originally posted by: shinerburke

As for QB...I'll take Rich Gannon over McNabb any day. Still would.

You're kidding, right? You forgot to include the wink or the smiley face or whatever, didn't you?

Nope. While Gannon may not be as physically gifted he is far better at managing a game and is a more intelligent QB than McNabb. You also didn't see Gannon sucking wind in the superbowl and throwing up in the huddle.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: daveymark
I'm sorry to say this, I don't think he's been that good from the get-go. I think what we've had here is a little social concern on the NFL. I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They're interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well.

I think you along with the drug addled fat bag of hot gas Rush Limbuagh are full of shit. Mcnabb was an elite QB until he started getting injured a lot. If it wasn't for him the Eagles would have never made it to their last Super Bowl appearance barely losing to a great Patriots team.

McNabb was never an elite QB. He was an average QB surrounded by good talent.

Now that that surrounding talent is gone he is showing that he is just an average NFL QB.

Yeah he was. If he would have been the QB for your suck ass Raiders when they played Tampa in the SB they probably wouldn't have been so embarrassed and might have actually won. His best days are probably in the past though.

That loss has more to do with our idiot coach not changing the gameplan, signals, etc, etc, etc...from the year before when Gruden was the coach. The Tampa players even said as much. They knew everything the Raiders were going to do because it was still Gruden's playbook, calls, line audibles, signals, etc.... and he was coaching Tampa against his own team.

As for QB...I'll take Rich Gannon over McNabb any day. Still would.

I'd rather slam my balls in a car door than play Gannon:laugh:

OMG STALKER!!!!

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber

Originally posted by: shinerburke

As for QB...I'll take Rich Gannon over McNabb any day. Still would.

You're kidding, right? You forgot to include the wink or the smiley face or whatever, didn't you?

Nope. While Gannon may not be as physically gifted he is far better at managing a game and is a more intelligent QB than McNabb. You also didn't see Gannon sucking wind in the superbowl and throwing up in the huddle.

No he just has the record for number of picks in one..

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber

Originally posted by: shinerburke

As for QB...I'll take Rich Gannon over McNabb any day. Still would.

You're kidding, right? You forgot to include the wink or the smiley face or whatever, didn't you?

Nope. While Gannon may not be as physically gifted he is far better at managing a game and is a more intelligent QB than McNabb. You also didn't see Gannon sucking wind in the superbowl and throwing up in the huddle.

You also didn't see McNabb's team getting embarrassed in the SUper Bowl even though they played a team superior in every way to the Raiders opponent when they were in the SB.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

I'd rather slam my balls in a car door than play Gannon:laugh:

[/quote]

hahaha that made me lol

 

[Syringer]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber

Originally posted by: shinerburke

As for QB...I'll take Rich Gannon over McNabb any day. Still would.

You're kidding, right? You forgot to include the wink or the smiley face or whatever, didn't you?

Nope. While Gannon may not be as physically gifted he is far better at managing a game and is a more intelligent QB than McNabb. You also didn't see Gannon sucking wind in the superbowl and throwing up in the huddle.

You also didn't see McNabb's team getting embarrassed in the SUper Bowl even though they played a team superior in every way to the Raiders opponent when they were in the SB.

He also didn't have to play a team whose head coach was his own coach just a year prior and knew the playbook, audible signals, and his own tendencies better than his current coach. If the Raiders had played any other team with any other coach, it would've been a much different story..

Plus Gannon = 1 MVP, McNabb = 0

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber

Originally posted by: shinerburke

As for QB...I'll take Rich Gannon over McNabb any day. Still would.

You're kidding, right? You forgot to include the wink or the smiley face or whatever, didn't you?

Nope. While Gannon may not be as physically gifted he is far better at managing a game and is a more intelligent QB than McNabb. You also didn't see Gannon sucking wind in the superbowl and throwing up in the huddle.

You also didn't see McNabb's team getting embarrassed in the SUper Bowl even though they played a team superior in every way to the Raiders opponent when they were in the SB.

He also didn't have to play a team whose head coach was his own coach just a year prior and knew the playbook, audible signals, and his own tendencies better than his current coach. If the Raiders had played any other team with any other coach, it would've been a much different story..

Plus Gannon = 1 MVP, McNabb = 0

5 INT 3 ran back for TD's!

there is only so much you can blame on the coach knowing the playbook!

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber

Originally posted by: shinerburke

As for QB...I'll take Rich Gannon over McNabb any day. Still would.

You're kidding, right? You forgot to include the wink or the smiley face or whatever, didn't you?

Nope. While Gannon may not be as physically gifted he is far better at managing a game and is a more intelligent QB than McNabb. You also didn't see Gannon sucking wind in the superbowl and throwing up in the huddle.

You also didn't see McNabb's team getting embarrassed in the SUper Bowl even though they played a team superior in every way to the Raiders opponent when they were in the SB.

if mcnabb was the bitch you say he is, wouldn't he admit to throwing up in the huddle and wouldn't he make an excuse for the loss during the super bowl, citing that he had the flu or something and wasn't up to 100%?

mcnabb hardly ever makes excuses for his performance. he always shoulders the blame and he doesn't bitch about it.

so what if he thinks black qbs are more scrutinized than white qbs... they are. whether you like it or not, black qbs are under the microscope than white qbs. mcnabb would have gotten flack for yesterday's performance regardless of the color of his skin because he played horribly in the past two games, but he the fact remains that black qbs are criticized more than white qbs...

the same goes for black coaches vs white coaches.

why? maybe because it's a newer trend, relatively and historically speaking.

 

[Syringer]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber

Originally posted by: shinerburke

As for QB...I'll take Rich Gannon over McNabb any day. Still would.

You're kidding, right? You forgot to include the wink or the smiley face or whatever, didn't you?

Nope. While Gannon may not be as physically gifted he is far better at managing a game and is a more intelligent QB than McNabb. You also didn't see Gannon sucking wind in the superbowl and throwing up in the huddle.

You also didn't see McNabb's team getting embarrassed in the SUper Bowl even though they played a team superior in every way to the Raiders opponent when they were in the SB.

He also didn't have to play a team whose head coach was his own coach just a year prior and knew the playbook, audible signals, and his own tendencies better than his current coach. If the Raiders had played any other team with any other coach, it would've been a much different story..

Plus Gannon = 1 MVP, McNabb = 0

5 INT 3 ran back for TD's!

there is only so much you can blame on the coach knowing the playbook!

For sure, but you're at a huge disadvantage when you're going up against one of the most dominating defenses in league history, an opposing coach that pretty much knows what's going to happen before it does, and when your own head coach is so idiotic that he kept the same play calls and had to make changes at halftime. How is a QB supposed to deal with that?

In any case, McNabb threw for 3 INTs in his lone Super Bowl appearance.