McInnes, Molyneux, and 4chan: Investigating pathways to the alt-right

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brycejones

Lifer
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You said: "The very minor differences in our aesthetics do not mean any differences in intellect or general ability." My question was, what if they did?

Why are you attempting to argue hypotheticals over something that is already scientifically settled?
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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They're not my biases, and you didn't answer the question.

You said: "The very minor differences in our aesthetics do not mean any differences in intellect or general ability." My question was, what if they did?

It's not even a reasonable question. It's the kind of thing where cultural bias generally precludes accurate results. What honest conclusions we do have indicate that there isn't any difference, anyway, as Amused pointed out. It's a game played by racists.
 
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Atreus21

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Why are you attempting to argue hypotheticals over something that is already scientifically settled?

Indulge me. If science really happened to support eugenics and racism and white supremacy, would you support it out of deference to the science?

Is the leftist objection to such things predicated on the fact that it's merely unscientific? Is that the only reason you oppose these people?
 

jackstar7

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They're not my biases, and you didn't answer the question.

You said: "The very minor differences in our aesthetics do not mean any differences in intellect or general ability." My question was, what if they did?
How is exploring that hypothetical useful?

Go waste the time of other people, abortion-boy.
 

bshole

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So... Back to the topic at hand.

Here is a series of talks Stefan Molyneux has had on "Human intelligence (IQ) - the experts interview series."

His "experts" are a who's who of white nationalist science outcasts who are eugenics supporters, racial IQ supporters and outright white nationalists. He of course kicks it off with the "Bell Curve" author, and his guest list only get slimier from there.

All in an attempt to create an illusion of science backing up the idea of racialism and an ethnostate.

This is what the article talks about. YouTube cults of personality who claim to be libertarian, anarcho-capitalists, no-statists who are using pseudoscience to spread white nationalism. In a very cult like manner, no less.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMNj_r5bccUyYzJ5G1GgvfM59JEpDkteX&app=desktop

The new normal is companies becoming moral arbiters. Billionaires deciding what is right and wrong and what Americans can see, think or say is true freedom. In the latest example, Paypal has banned Pornhub which will affect more than 100,000 performers. Paypal has over 90 percent of the payments market so there may not exist a viable alternative.

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We are all devastated,” Pornhub Vice President Corey Price said in an emailed statement. “The payments PayPal is referring to are only the payments that were being made to models in our Model Program. Pornhub’s growing Model Program was launched in order to empower content creators within the adult industry by providing a secure, highly visible, sex-positive space on our platform to sell and share original video content and earn a large share of the advertising revenue on their free-to-watch videos.”

 
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pmv

Lifer
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Indulge me. If science really happened to support eugenics and racism and white supremacy, would you support it out of deference to the science?

Is the leftist objection to such things predicated on the fact that it's merely unscientific? Is that the only reason you oppose these people?

So disengenuous. The only reason to ask such a hypothetical is to try and cause hurt to those in a vulnerable position. One could reply with a reversal, i.e. if the science showed conservatives were intrindically wicked and should be shunned and not be allowed to vote, would you support it? But that doesn't carry the same power because there's no real history of that happening.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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Oh noes! The process of clamping down on White Nationalists has interfered with cam girls and porn.
I don't really recall a time when corporate america DIDN'T revere themselves as socially and/or morally correct arbitrators, at least via their words. In fact, conservatives champion activism by pretty much ANY means.

I'm sure another payment method will become the mainstay for adult entertainment professionals. It's bound to happen, seeing how much revenue that industry generates each year. And guess who just lost more customers (PayPal), but they must feel like they can do this and survive / attract people who frown upon those who would get paid for sexual prowess.
 
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I don't really recall a time when corporate america DIDN'T revere themselves as socially and/or morally correct arbitrators, at least via their words. In fact, conservatives champion activism by pretty much ANY means.

Agreed. Also I want to add porn conquers all, they will take their business else where and all will be fine.
 
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Greenman

Lifer
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So... Back to the topic at hand.

Here is a series of talks Stefan Molyneux has had on "Human intelligence (IQ) - the experts interview series."

His "experts" are a who's who of white nationalist science outcasts who are eugenics supporters, racial IQ supporters and outright white nationalists. He of course kicks it off with the "Bell Curve" author, and his guest list only get slimier from there.

All in an attempt to create an illusion of science backing up the idea of racialism and an ethnostate.

This is what the article talks about. YouTube cults of personality who claim to be libertarian, anarcho-capitalists, no-statists who are using pseudoscience to spread white nationalism. In a very cult like manner, no less.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMNj_r5bccUyYzJ5G1GgvfM59JEpDkteX&app=desktop
That's like 20 hours of material. Have you watched all of that?
 

Amused

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That's like 20 hours of material. Have you watched all of that?

Do I have to? The "experts" he cherry picks to interview plus skimming to be sure they haven't changed their white supremacist pseudoscientific claims are all you really need to know.

The entire series is designed to claim whites are genetically/intellectually superior to other races.
 

Amused

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The new normal is companies becoming moral arbiters. Billionaires deciding what is right and wrong and what Americans can see, think or say is true freedom. In the latest example, Paypal has banned Pornhub which will affect more than 100,000 performers. Paypal has over 90 percent of the payments market so there may not exist a viable alternative.

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What does this have to do with anything? Are you claiming there is a government ban on white supremacists getting paid or speaking?

Before the internet major publishing houses would choose what to print and not print. So would magazines and newspapers.

You are NOT entitled to a platform for your speech.

You never were.

But now you are demanding to be entitled. No.

If society at large (private citizens and companies) reject you because they find your ideas repugnant. that is NOT a violation of your rights.
 
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