McDonalds impervious to decomposition

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LittleNemoNES

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0roo0roo

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Honestly, the only difference is that non-fast food is fresh. At McDonalds, we would make 3 trays of 1:10 meat and it would sit in the heating thing for a good 4 hours. Fresh McDonalds burgers are excellent. The 4 hour ones....not so much.

When you go to a fancier place and pay $10 for the same burger, it's expensive because it's fresh. It was frozen until you ordered it, and it was brought out immediately after cooking it.

I kinda doubt that or you have a dodgy restaurant manager. There should be a timer for the cooked food, mcdonalds and other fast food restaurants are well known for the practice of throwing out cooked food after a short time. food is cheap, law suits are not.
 

wiredspider

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would any bread in a dry, clean enviornment fare much differently?

I wonder the same, had some bread that was maybe only a week past the expiration date get moldy. However, I've had other bread keep for over a month with no mold! Maybe even 2 months...weird.
 

waggy

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Good point, and that's why it's called fast food. It wouldn't be fast if they had to make it fresh.

i disagree. when i worked at McDondalds like 20 years ago i could make fresh hamburgers (that's what we did) faster then they are made today.

a fresh burger is great. i still enjoy a fresh made cheeseburger

I kinda doubt that or you have a dodgy restaurant manager. There should be a timer for the cooked food, mcdonalds and other fast food restaurants are well known for the practice of throwing out cooked food after a short time. food is cheap, law suits are not.

nope he is right. they put them in a warmer machine for hours then put them in a Q machinet to warm them up.

the cooked hamburgers are sitting in the grease for hours.
 

yhelothar

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i disagree. when i worked at McDondalds like 20 years ago i could make fresh hamburgers (that's what we did) faster then they are made today.

a fresh burger is great. i still enjoy a fresh made cheeseburger

Uh why would they not make them fresh if it's more efficient than what they do now? :hmm:
Plus that's not what my friend who's been a manager at mcdeez for several years says.
 

waggy

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Uh why would they not make them fresh if it's more efficient than what they do now? :hmm:
Plus that's not what my friend who's been a manager at mcdeez for several years says.

shrug. when i worked there about 20 years ago i could make a dozen hamburger/cheeseburgers as fast as they can pull them up today hell maybe even faster. i gurentee others here that worked in the grill will agree.

why they changed it? no idea. seems silly to me.

And after college i worked there again (maybe 12 years ago?) you would make up the beef. put them in little drawers and they would go in a "warmer". then when you make them you pull them out of the warmer and put them in a Qoven (or something like that). heard they changed it yet again though.

but they would sit in the warmer oven for hours.
 

SP33Demon

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Ever wonder why stomach and colon cancer is at an all time high?

This thread should be a clue and...

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Eli

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Cook french fries at home; same results. Make a hamburger as thin as theirs, so it's pretty low in total moisture & will dry out before molding, and again, same results. This isn't a phenomenon unique to McD's, although for some reason, it's been mentioned repeatedly in recent weeks, each time attributed solely to McD's food.

This.

Environmental conditions have much more to do with it than the food. If the food dries out before any elements of decomposition can get a foothold, nothing will happen.
 

bigrash

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Sweet, haven't been to McDonald's in a while, so I think I'll go there for lunch. Thanks for the reminder op.
 

AstroManLuca

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Ever wonder why stomach and colon cancer is at an all time high?

This thread should be a clue and...

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I noticed that the pie charts along the bottom show the percentage of money people spend on groceries vs. restaurants. I don't know for sure but I'm pretty sure restaurant prices have gone up faster than grocery prices. I mean, a loaf of bread is still just a couple bucks but restaurants are a lot more expensive than they used to be. Obviously people are still eating out more than they used to but it would be interesting to see the percentage of meals eaten at restaurants vs. at home.
 

HumblePie

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Bread doesn't mold if it dries out before growing mold. A piece of bread left out in the open air will be as hard as a rock before it has a chance to grow mold.

Yes and no, bread can dry out without mold, but it has to BE dried. Meaning put in an area with no moisture in the first place. Bread left out on a counter will eventually mold though because most people don't live in a desert. Since bread contains "pockets" water in the air has places to accumulate and allow mold to eventually grow.

But yes, generally speaking, without water, there is no decomposition because mold and bacteria need water to live as well. Which is why both sugar and salt are preservatives. The crystal structure of sugar and salt actually pull water away from bacteria which stops the bacteria.

but yah, I agree this is mostly a "useless" experience.
 

Cogman

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Dear Lord! Food that doesn't decay!

I better throw away all my pickles and vinegar.

Not to mention wheat and honey. After all, they have found wheat and honey in Egyptian tombs that was still good.


Seriously, why is "It doesn't go bad" supposed to be an indicator of if food is healthy? If you are going to pick on how healthly MCDs is, look at real health indicators like sodium content, cholesterol content, and unsaturated fat content. Not stupid things like "It doesn't rot!".

News flash, your digestive tract doesn't care if food will rot in the open.
 

yhelothar

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Yes and no, bread can dry out without mold, but it has to BE dried. Meaning put in an area with no moisture in the first place. Bread left out on a counter will eventually mold though because most people don't live in a desert. Since bread contains "pockets" water in the air has places to accumulate and allow mold to eventually grow.

But yes, generally speaking, without water, there is no decomposition because mold and bacteria need water to live as well. Which is why both sugar and salt are preservatives. The crystal structure of sugar and salt actually pull water away from bacteria which stops the bacteria.

but yah, I agree this is mostly a "useless" experience.

Bread usually molds on its own because it's left in the bag, usually with the opening tied up. If you leave a piece of bread out in the open with no coverings whatsoever, it's going to dry up waaaay quicker.

You should see how fast steamed rice dries up left in the open, or freshly cooked pasta. Both are incredibly moist, but it'll turn rock hard solid dry in less than a day left in the open.
 

coloumb

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shrug. when i worked there about 20 years ago i could make a dozen hamburger/cheeseburgers as fast as they can pull them up today hell maybe even faster. i gurentee others here that worked in the grill will agree.

why they changed it? no idea. seems silly to me.

And after college i worked there again (maybe 12 years ago?) you would make up the beef. put them in little drawers and they would go in a "warmer". then when you make them you pull them out of the warmer and put them in a Qoven (or something like that). heard they changed it yet again though.

but they would sit in the warmer oven for hours.

Yup - lunch rushes were awesome.

I think today it's because people weren't as coordinated as we were back then - today it's all automated - pre-cook the food, place it in a drawer, and let it sit [4 hours? HOLY CRAP - I wonder if there is a way to special order a burger so it's made fresh?]....until it's sold [at least that's the impression I get whenever I go to Mcdonald's and catch a look at the "illegals" who build the sandwiches by following the pretty pictures taped up near the food bins].

Hell - I think about the only item that's relatively "cooked to order" are the french fries... and maybe the biscuits for the breakfast sandwiches?

Eh - whatever the case - McDonald's could take a lesson from In and Out - everything is made to order and tastes 1000000000% better. :)
 

bfdd

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Reminds me of the movie Supersize Me, at the end they put a bunch of food in jars to see how it looked. 10 weeks later, the mcdonalds french fries showed no sign of decay. Another reason not to eat at mcdonalds, ever.

Super Size Me Experiment 1st Part
Super Size Me Experiment 2nd Part

I've never put another user on ignore, but this post has me considering it. Why the fuck would I want to listen to anything you have to say ever again after pointing to Super Size Me as the reason you won't eat McDonalds? You're a fucking moron and that movie is a piece of shit. Stop promoting bullshit propaganda.