McDonald's Carrot sticks, kids will eat them if they are McDonalds

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A study, published in the Archives of Pediatric Adolescent Medicine yesterday, found that children as young as three preferred to eat foods they believed to be from McDonald's - even if those foods, such as a serve of vegetables, were not part of the fast-food giant's menu.



But the Coalition on Food Advertising to Children said the study proved children were being bombarded with advertising. "It just shows how the messages from TV really do sink in with children," the coalition's chairwoman, Kathy Chapman, said. "TV is such a powerful medium and I hope this study compels the major food manufacturers to be more aware of their responsibilities."


So they sink in. BIG DEAL.

It is our responsibility as parents to teach our children properly. This means understanding that you can't have everything you want and that excess of anything isn't necessarily a good thing.

Claiming its an advertisers fault children want something is pretty downright disgusting. Thats their job. Its our job to know better. If our kids don't know better its our failing. Parenting isn't easy, but its not exactly hard either. It becomes hard if you let your responsibilities slide for too long as it establishes bad traits.

Hell there are many adults who can't tell the difference or swayed by brand names. They will rationalize it any way they choose. The requirement of us is to make sure our children rationalize it properly. There comes a time when they can do this, it is different for each child but we must step up to the plate when it comes time. Don't expect someone else to do the job for you because when you do you fail.
 

Zedtom

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It's not just children that are influenced by advertising. Many adults refuse to purchase house brands at the grocery store because they are "not as good" as the heavily advertised name brands. In most cases, these generic brands are manufactured by the big companies and retailed with a Kroger or similar label.

If kids are eating carrots instead of french fries- that's a good thing.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Zedtom
It's not just children that are influenced by advertising. Many adults refuse to purchase house brands at the grocery store because they are "not as good" as the heavily advertised name brands. In most cases, these generic brands are manufactured by the big companies and retailed with a Kroger or similar label.

If kids are eating carrots instead of french fries- that's a good thing.

The kids were merely told that the carrot sticks were McDonalds. Last time I checked(admittedly a long time), McDonalds doesn't serve Carrot Sticks.
 

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The tactics that companies use to advertise their products is manipulative and incredibly unfair, but we still have to be aware of it.

You're right Zedtom, I see people all the time at the supermarket and notice what they get, name brand products, and sometimes paying twice as much for them! Pretty amazing.
 

1prophet

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Originally posted by: CptFarlow
The tactics that companies use to advertise their products is manipulative and incredibly unfair, but we still have to be aware of it.

You're right Zedtom, I see people all the time at the supermarket and notice what they get, name brand products, and sometimes paying twice as much for them! Pretty amazing.

The tactics that companies use to advertise their products were developed by a psychologist by the name of Edward L. Bernays, exploiting the hidden desires in most of us making us feel that we are actually making the choice while in reality we are being manipulated using our own lusts and desires. Few have the willpower to resist this today.


His name was Edward L. Bernays. He was Sigmund Freud's Nephew. He was born in Vienna on November 22, 1891 and died in his home at Cambridge, Massachusetts on March 9, 1995 at the age of 103.

Before the early twentieth century, marketers thought of people as being rational beings. They figured all they had to do was reason with the public logically if they wanted to sell their product. Freud's theories pointed out that everyone also possessed an unconscious mind filled with instincts and hidden emotions as sex, security, aggression, and survival. This unconscious mind greatly influences how people as a whole behave.

Edward Bernays was raised in the United States. He spent a lot of the summers of his youth vacationing in Austria and getting to know firsthand some of his famous uncle's theories. He used what he learned to formulate the most useful corporate alien theory on the planet. This theory is called "Public Relations" by some, and "Spin" by others. You and I have been influenced by spin for decades if we've lived in any so called "civilized" nation of the world.

Some of Bernays' campaigns actually changed the behavior of most Americans. In the mid twenties, a company called Beechnut Packing wanted to improve its sales of bacon. Bernays, instead of creating a campaign to put the bacon on sale created a new and unheard of use for the product. He asked the medical community if it was better for people to have a hardy breakfast or a light breakfast. Doctors agreed that a hearty breakfast was better. The breakfast of that period consisted of toast, coffee, and juice. Bernays added bacon and eggs to this breakfast. He started a marketing campaign that touted the medical benefits of a hearty breakfast that included bacon and eggs. To this day, an "all American" breakfast includes bacon and eggs.

Another of his campaigns was for the American Tobacco Company. By the mid twenties, smoking was prevalent in the United States and cigarettes were the most popular form of tobacco. Women, however, were not allowed to smoke in public. In 1928 the American Tobacco Company hired Bernays to try and change this. He consulted with a psychoanalyst A.A. Brill, who suggested that what women really want was the freedom to do the same things men do. So during New York's 1929 Easter Parade, Bernays hired debutantes to march in the parade pretending to be suffragettes. On his signal, these women all lit up a cigarette. He had photographers standing by to mark the event and referred to cigarettes as being "torches of freedom." It appeared that anyone against women smoking was against women's liberation as well. Bernays saw to it that this event was publicized throughout the world. Smoking by women everywhere quickly skyrocketed when they began to associate cigarettes with freedom.



If you can spare 4 hours of your time these are the videos that show how it was done.
 

Hacp

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You're correct! We've been wrong for the last 10 years;lets cut the red tape and start allowing the tobacco ads to flood our saturday morning cartoon shows.
 

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Maybe if the parents didn't let their kids spend so much timein front of the shitbox they wouldn't exposed to so much advertising. advertising wouldn't have any effect if the kids weren't exposed to it. dont try to blame advertisers.

aside: The idea of selling carrot sticks and sliced apples at a fast food restaurant is absurd... but i guess that just shows how lazy people are. cant even cut up your own damn carrots and apples for your kids. what the hell is that? what a joke.
 

Hacp

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Originally posted by: spittledip
Maybe if the parents didn't let their kids spend so much timein front of the shitbox they wouldn't exposed to so much advertising. advertising wouldn't have any effect if the kids weren't exposed to it. dont try to blame advertisers.

aside: The idea of selling carrot sticks and sliced apples at a fast food restaurant is absurd... but i guess that just shows how lazy people are. cant even cut up your own damn carrots and apples for your kids. what the hell is that? what a joke.

Maybe if we just banned all TV, then the kids wouldn't sit in front of the shitboxes?
 

spittledip

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Originally posted by: Hacp
Originally posted by: spittledip
Maybe if the parents didn't let their kids spend so much timein front of the shitbox they wouldn't exposed to so much advertising. advertising wouldn't have any effect if the kids weren't exposed to it. dont try to blame advertisers.

aside: The idea of selling carrot sticks and sliced apples at a fast food restaurant is absurd... but i guess that just shows how lazy people are. cant even cut up your own damn carrots and apples for your kids. what the hell is that? what a joke.

Maybe if we just banned all TV, then the kids wouldn't sit in front of the shitboxes?


Why ban TV? That is silly extreme. The parent has a responsibilty to be a parent. Many parentsdont take that responsibility very seriously. lots of living abortions running around these days.
 

Hacp

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Originally posted by: spittledip
Originally posted by: Hacp
Originally posted by: spittledip
Maybe if the parents didn't let their kids spend so much timein front of the shitbox they wouldn't exposed to so much advertising. advertising wouldn't have any effect if the kids weren't exposed to it. dont try to blame advertisers.

aside: The idea of selling carrot sticks and sliced apples at a fast food restaurant is absurd... but i guess that just shows how lazy people are. cant even cut up your own damn carrots and apples for your kids. what the hell is that? what a joke.

Maybe if we just banned all TV, then the kids wouldn't sit in front of the shitboxes?


Why ban TV? That is silly extreme. The parent has a responsibilty to be a parent. Many parentsdont take that responsibility very seriously. lots of living abortions running around these days.

My point is that it is sometimes hard to actually censor your kids. Your kids see advertising everywhere. Its on billboards, its in the newspaper, its in the internet, subways, and television. The guys even target the programs your kids like to watch, so it is likely that when they do turn on the TV, they will see the advertisements targeted at them. To blame parents for agressive advertising is irresponsible.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: spittledip
Originally posted by: Hacp
Originally posted by: spittledip
Maybe if the parents didn't let their kids spend so much timein front of the shitbox they wouldn't exposed to so much advertising. advertising wouldn't have any effect if the kids weren't exposed to it. dont try to blame advertisers.

aside: The idea of selling carrot sticks and sliced apples at a fast food restaurant is absurd... but i guess that just shows how lazy people are. cant even cut up your own damn carrots and apples for your kids. what the hell is that? what a joke.

Maybe if we just banned all TV, then the kids wouldn't sit in front of the shitboxes?


Why ban TV? That is silly extreme. The parent has a responsibilty to be a parent. Many parentsdont take that responsibility very seriously. lots of living abortions running around these days.

exactly, if there is a group of people that are actively polluting the minds of their children, its their responsibility to correct it, and government regulation is one of those options.

We not only have the responsibility to regulate our children, but if others refuse to do so, it becomes a moral obligation of responsible people to intervene for the sake of those children. Somehow this society has been brainwashed into thinking that it is immoral to help people who can't help themselves.
 

BoberFett

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Hacp

You are one of the most helpless sounding people I've ever seen. Does somebody wipe your ass for you too? If you're not responsible enough to have kids, then don't. I seem to have no trouble telling me daughter "No" when it comes to buying the latest toy or eating fast food, but if you're not up to the task then keep your sperm to yourself. I'm sick of nanny-staters like you trying to shape this country around both your laziness and stupidity.
 

Mursilis

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Originally posted by: Hacp
Originally posted by: spittledip
Originally posted by: Hacp
Originally posted by: spittledip
Maybe if the parents didn't let their kids spend so much timein front of the shitbox they wouldn't exposed to so much advertising. advertising wouldn't have any effect if the kids weren't exposed to it. dont try to blame advertisers.

aside: The idea of selling carrot sticks and sliced apples at a fast food restaurant is absurd... but i guess that just shows how lazy people are. cant even cut up your own damn carrots and apples for your kids. what the hell is that? what a joke.

Maybe if we just banned all TV, then the kids wouldn't sit in front of the shitboxes?


Why ban TV? That is silly extreme. The parent has a responsibilty to be a parent. Many parentsdont take that responsibility very seriously. lots of living abortions running around these days.

My point is that it is sometimes hard to actually censor your kids. Your kids see advertising everywhere. Its on billboards, its in the newspaper, its in the internet, subways, and television. The guys even target the programs your kids like to watch, so it is likely that when they do turn on the TV, they will see the advertisements targeted at them. To blame parents for agressive advertising is irresponsible.

No it's not hard to censor your kids, provided you actually have the guts to do it! Do you even have kids? I have four, which can be quite a handful at times, but I have no problem doing things like saying no, turning off the TV, and making them go read a book or play outside. Parents these days are just lazy, and would rather watch their kid's brain rot in front of the idiot box (TV) than engage with the child. Most parents in my neighborhood just let their child roam the streets dawn 'til dusk, unsupervised and unwatched by any adult. Plus, so many are worshipping at the alter of the money god that they've got no time or patience for their children. Between my spouse and I, there's a parent, not a babysitter, watching our kids, except for school. This meant giving up a huge amount of income, but we felt it was worth it. Parents today are pretty crummy, because they're not acting as parents. Don't blame TV or ads or whatever.
 

GoPackGo

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I think this just made it easier for Parents....

Serve all your meals in "Happy Meal" boxes! FTW!
 

erub

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Originally posted by: Mursilis
Originally posted by: Hacp
Originally posted by: spittledip
Originally posted by: Hacp
Originally posted by: spittledip
Maybe if the parents didn't let their kids spend so much timein front of the shitbox they wouldn't exposed to so much advertising. advertising wouldn't have any effect if the kids weren't exposed to it. dont try to blame advertisers.

aside: The idea of selling carrot sticks and sliced apples at a fast food restaurant is absurd... but i guess that just shows how lazy people are. cant even cut up your own damn carrots and apples for your kids. what the hell is that? what a joke.

Maybe if we just banned all TV, then the kids wouldn't sit in front of the shitboxes?


Why ban TV? That is silly extreme. The parent has a responsibilty to be a parent. Many parentsdont take that responsibility very seriously. lots of living abortions running around these days.

My point is that it is sometimes hard to actually censor your kids. Your kids see advertising everywhere. Its on billboards, its in the newspaper, its in the internet, subways, and television. The guys even target the programs your kids like to watch, so it is likely that when they do turn on the TV, they will see the advertisements targeted at them. To blame parents for agressive advertising is irresponsible.

No it's not hard to censor your kids, provided you actually have the guts to do it! Do you even have kids? I have four, which can be quite a handful at times, but I have no problem doing things like saying no, turning off the TV, and making them go read a book or play outside. Parents these days are just lazy, and would rather watch their kid's brain rot in front of the idiot box (TV) than engage with the child. Most parents in my neighborhood just let their child roam the streets dawn 'til dusk, unsupervised and unwatched by any adult. Plus, so many are worshipping at the alter of the money god that they've got no time or patience for their children. Between my spouse and I, there's a parent, not a babysitter, watching our kids, except for school. This meant giving up a huge amount of income, but we felt it was worth it. Parents today are pretty crummy, because they're not acting as parents. Don't blame TV or ads or whatever.


My dad always told me that back in the day he would be free to roam the street (even played baseball in the road, with the cars!) from dawn until dusk. Somehow he didn't get hit by a car and turned out ok. Even though you are a dad, maybe you are too young for this phenomonon? Tell me, older ones, was it the truth? Now parents would rather supervise their kids, but since they are too lazy for that, they use the TV as a babysitter. At least the kids wont get hit by cars or kidnapped in front of it..
 

Mursilis

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Originally posted by: erub
My dad always told me that back in the day he would be free to roam the street (even played baseball in the road, with the cars!) from dawn until dusk. Somehow he didn't get hit by a car and turned out ok. Even though you are a dad, maybe you are too young for this phenomonon? Tell me, older ones, was it the truth? Now parents would rather supervise their kids, but since they are too lazy for that, they use the TV as a babysitter. At least the kids wont get hit by cars or kidnapped in front of it..

I remember those days, back before parents were so worried about a child molestor behind every bush. There were many days when my friends and I would wander all over the neighborhood for most of the day. But those were summer days, when school was out. I was talking above about parents letting their kids stay out late on school nights, when kids should studying or something. Should've been more clear.