McDonalds answer to $15/hr min wages

[JEDI]

McKiosks!

I for one welcome these automated underlings

 

[sandorski]

Were those installed in a Store under a $15/hr jurisdiction?

 

[trenchfoot]

McKiosks!

I for one welcome these automated underlings

Personally, whenever I order food and there's something not quite right with it, I like the idea that I can wrap my hands around the neck of the person responsible for the tragedy. It's also why I've found that most counter tops between customer and shop personnel are so wide.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Personally, whenever I order food and there's something not quite right with it, I like the idea that I can wrap my hands around the neck of the person responsible for the tragedy. It's also why I've found that most counter tops between customer and shop personnel are so wide.

It's also why studies have shown that the average American consumes approximately 2 fluid ounces of fry cook saliva and semen annually.

 

[Strk]

Because that's not happening anyways?

 

[trenchfoot]

It's also why studies have shown that the average American consumes approximately 2 fluid ounces of fry cook saliva and semen annually.

LOL, yeah, that's why I tend to not go back to an establishment that I had a disagreement with. I'm nice and cordial from the get-go but once I get any kind of attitude from the help, I ask for the manager and be as discrete as possible as far as finding an amicable solution to the problem at hand. Finding no joy from that line of reasonable discourse, I tend to get animated enough so that the other customers in the place can hear what's going on. And if that doesn't help, well, then I let the manager decide how personal he/she wants to take the encounter and roll with it.

 

[Scooby Doo]

My answer to McKiosks.... I'll eat somewhere else LOL

 

[Jaskalas]

Capitalism is clearly meant to be answered in bread lines.

It seems to me a volatile creature, one bereft of all concern except its natural pursuit of profit. In a simpler world that meant a rising tide to "lift all boats". But corruption has run deep, and American workers compete with slave labor so cheap that you can ship goods across the planet sooner than hire a worker for the same value as their parents.

Is there no going back to a time where you could "pump gas" and "feed a family"? Apparently not. America's golden age is WELL behind us, remaining only in tales told by the baby boomers as they sing their last farewells. Theirs, a world where American capitalism made us all rich... has died along with them.

Every year Americans grow poorer. Every year social services must be raised to meet the growing demand... and fail to do so. It is not enough. It simply can never be enough. Our entire economic model is a Bernard Madoff ponzi scheme demanding infinite growth or untold failure. It gets worse. We cut costs and "compete" with Asia, and the rest of the planet with no regard civil, environmental, or labor laws.

You witness the fruits of free trade and Wall Street valuations of the "people". For us to be whittled down unto slave labor. I say to you, if our labor no longer has value... enough to sustain ourselves... then capitalism no longer has value.

 

[compuwiz1]

My answer to McKiosks.... I'll eat somewhere else LOL

What happens when they're everywhere? Frankly, I don't care, as I very seldom eat fast food, save for about 3 times a year and that's mostly when I'm out of town. All these FF joints could burn down and my life would still be just as good.

 

[Jaskalas]

What happens when they're everywhere? Frankly, I don't care, as I very seldom eat fast food, save for about 3 times a year and that's mostly when I'm out of town. All these FF joints could burn down and my life would still be just as good.

Let them eat cake?
Our economic collapse is sparking a revolution.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Meh from experience getting people to use an automated kiosk is futile. From my experience managing wireless stores given a choice between paying a bill with a person vs paying at a kiosk they will choose the person 95% of the time. I had one location that took 200+ payments per day the kiosk would take 2-10 per day and some days none.

 

[JEDI]

Let them eat cake?
Our economic collapse is sparking a revolution.

no.
Trump being Pres will spark a revolution.
(thank gods for the 2nd amendment.)

$15/hr for McJobs will spark automation.

but what will happened to the unskilled masses?
and to those of us that has to support them via safety net/hammock since we are a civilized society that wont let children die.
(and to take advantage of that, the unskilled have lots of children...)

 

[sandorski]

no.
Trump being Pres will spark a revolution.
(thank gods for the 2nd amendment.)

$15/hr for McJobs will spark automation.

but what will happened to the unskilled masses?
and to those of us that has to support them via safety net/hammock since we are a civilized society

You still haven't shown this to be the case.

 

[Sonikku]

For that matter the Kiosk is probably cheaper than $7.25 an hour help. Let's disband the minimum wage so we might see what unskilled labor is worth in an automated age... Should be about a dollar an hour. :hmm:

 

[MagickMan]

Let them eat cake?
Our economic collapse is sparking a revolution.

Our "economic collapse" during what is universally the most prosperous era in human history? I'll just log that under rape culture and the wage gap.

 

[ivwshane]

What happens when they're everywhere? Frankly, I don't care, as I very seldom eat fast food, save for about 3 times a year and that's mostly when I'm out of town. All these FF joints could burn down and my life would still be just as good.

You just answered your own question.

 

[elitejp]

Capitalism is clearly meant to be answered in bread lines.

It seems to me a volatile creature, one bereft of all concern except its natural pursuit of profit. In a simpler world that meant a rising tide to "lift all boats". But corruption has run deep, and American workers compete with slave labor so cheap that you can ship goods across the planet sooner than hire a worker for the same value as their parents.

Is there no going back to a time where you could "pump gas" and "feed a family"? Apparently not. America's golden age is WELL behind us, remaining only in tales told by the baby boomers as they sing their last farewells. Theirs, a world where American capitalism made us all rich... has died along with them.

Every year Americans grow poorer. Every year social services must be raised to meet the growing demand... and fail to do so. It is not enough. It simply can never be enough. Our entire economic model is a Bernard Madoff ponzi scheme demanding infinite growth or untold failure. It gets worse. We cut costs and "compete" with Asia, and the rest of the planet with no regard civil, environmental, or labor laws.

You witness the fruits of free trade and Wall Street valuations of the "people". For us to be whittled down unto slave labor. I say to you, if our labor no longer has value... enough to sustain ourselves... then capitalism no longer has value.

I hardly see america as capitalistic. Its more and more govt controlled wealth and the distribution of it.

 

[sandorski]

I hardly see america as capitalistic. Its more and more govt controlled wealth and the distribution of it.

lol

 

[ivwshane]

I hardly see america as capitalistic. Its more and more govt controlled wealth and the distribution of it.

And you should be thankful of that!

I can guarantee you wouldn't want to live in a society that was built upon true/pure capitalism.

 

[elitejp]

maybe not, but it hasnt been getting better with the increased govt control and so called govt help for the poor.
I see more capitalism as a much better answer to jobs and the creation of wealth.

 

[ivwshane]

maybe not, but it hasnt been getting better with the increased govt control and so called govt help for the poor.
I see more capitalism as a much better answer to jobs and the creation of wealth.

You don't get it, more government is the result of the effects and consequences of capitalism. Laws, regulations, and social safety nets aren't created in a vacuum, they are a reaction to the effects of capitalism.

 

[compuwiz1]

I love capitalism. Capitalism is why my wife and I were able to raise our kids in a 5000 sf house that we had custom built. I've only had one full time hourly job in my life and that was back in the early 80's, but it ended due to the effects of the recession. As luck would have it, the only jobs I was able to find, were sales jobs. Most of my adult life I've earned a 6 figure annual income, mostly on straight commission. I'm confident that I could be dropped off in a strange city with only my clothes and I would be employed within 48 hours and have a good paycheck shortly after. I've always chosen a job where the employer offered health insurance, so never really been without that either. Am I well educated? Not at all. I barely have a HS diploma. I got married at 19yo and our first child was born when I was 20. I have on the job business education, acquired over many, many years. My dad had a sit down with me one day and told me that I would probably never get a well paying job, given my education, unless I learned sales and found a job in it. I've always been of the belief that people are responsible for creating their own path to advancement. So when I hear stories of people complaining and pushing for higher minimum wages for Mcjobs, the only way I can respond is to challenge them to do something about their situation and accept some responsibility for the path their life is on.

 

[John Connor]

i'm lovin it!

 

[John Connor]

I love capitalism. Capitalism is why my wife and I were able to raise our kids in a 5000 sf house that we had custom built. I've only had one full time hourly job in my life and that was back in the early 80's, but it ended due to the effects of the recession. As luck would have it, the only jobs I was able to find, were sales jobs. Most of my adult life I've earned a 6 figure annual income, mostly on straight commission. I'm confident that I could be dropped off in a strange city with only my clothes and I would be employed within 48 hours and have a good paycheck shortly after. I've always chosen a job where the employer offered health insurance, so never really been without that either. Am I well educated? Not at all. I barely have a HS diploma. I got married at 19yo and our first child was born when I was 20. I have on the job business education, acquired over many, many years. My dad had a sit down with me one day and told me that I would probably never get a well paying job, given my education, unless I learned sales and found a job in it. I've always been of the belief that people are responsible for creating their own path to advancement. So when I hear stories of people complaining and pushing for higher minimum wages for Mcjobs, the only way I can respond is to challenge them to do something about their situation and accept some responsibility for the path their life is on.

You're making too much sense and the rats that troll P&N often will not understand.

 

[1prophet]

maybe not, but it hasnt been getting better with the increased govt control and so called govt help for the poor.
I see more capitalism as a much better answer to jobs and the creation of wealth.

Capitalism works best with a robust middle class that puts it's country and people first because that is it's foundation and where the long term profits can continually come from,

The slash and burn clear cutting type of capitalism that we have today works well for those that only care about immediate profit like job hopping CEO's but in the long run ruins the very country that gave us those profits.