McCain Suspends his Campaign

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lupi

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CNN changed the headline to read McCain: No bailout deal, then no debate Friday, but the body of the story seems the same?
 

Pens1566

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Originally posted by: lupi
CNN changed the headline to read McCain: No bailout deal, then no debate Friday, but the body of the story seems the same?

I saw that too ... seems like a weird ultimatum to issue.
 

AllWhacked

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Originally posted by: OrByteHe will vote on it like every other senator out there that is trying to figure out what the treasury, senate banking committee, and the white house want to do with this crisis.

Its not like Obama or McCain will walk into a room and everyone will await their orders. They aren't even on any relevant committee.

He showed leadership by not knee-jerking and calling for the Chris Cox's head on a platter like McCain did

He also showed leadership and intelligence when he didnt release an economic plan whilst the actual sitting administration and treasury were running around trying to put the fires out on wall street.

Everytime a crisis comes up John McCain wants to be there front and center to show off his "leadership" Im sorry but I dont respect the opportunism of John McCain.

And I am sure Obama will be able to "skip a rally or two" and participate when and where needed. Its John McCain that can't seem to keep two trains of thought going through his head at one time.

Well, that contradicts what Reid has been saying. Reid said: ?We need, now, the Republicans to start producing some votes for us. We need the Republican nominee for president to let us know where he stands and what we should do.?

Source

All this week, Harry "I don't know what to do" Reid has been passing the buck to Republicans that McCain needs to show leadership in this bailout. Now McCain is coming back and people think this is a publicity stunt. Perhaps it is, perhaps not. But right or wrong, the Democrats have been asking for McCain to show leadership (with the assumption that he would stay on the campaign trail and therefore they could keep blasting McCain). Now that McCain has called their bluff, Reid has the gall to retract this call of leadership and basically ask both candidates to stay away. [Source]

I'm sure that this was after Obama showed no enthusiasm of coming back to make a vote on this and therefore take a stand on something.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Hahaha, the Obama campaign's response?

"We can handle both".

McCain just got owned.

Haha, the Obama campaign once again waits for McCain to do something so they can act all high and mighty and do the opposite.
McCain said before he'd rather lose an election and win a war, so now he'd rather help save our economy than run for president for a few days. The only reason Obama wants to do the debat eis because he can put his teleprompter where McCain would have been standing. Plus he won't have to actually come up with anything to counter McCain.

BTW, who is this "WE" I thought Obama was running for President, not everyone in his pockets.

I've asked this question before, but what America do you live in? The real one where McCain is a bumbling idiot or the fantasy one where he's a 45 year old stud-genius? His campaign has been absolutely pathetic, yet nobody from his party has the balls to say so. If I were a Republican, I'd be disgraced that McCain was representing my party, especially considering he's basically abandoned everything that made him a popular choice and earned him his "maverick" title.
 

Moonbeam

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McCampaign suspending his campaign is an act of heroic patriotism, especially if he doesn't start it back up. He would just be more Bush disaster.
 

Moonbeam

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McCain has decided to stand on his head. This has been interpreted by the republican party that he's the Son of God.

When you present blithering idiots data they instantly make blithering idiotic sense of it.
 

Perknose

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Sadly, McCain's campaign seems a harbinger of what his Presidency would be like . . . drama queen bluster and "going long" on every play. :(
 

classy

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McCain knows he probably cant out debate Obama, so he uses the financial crisis as a political ploy.
 

alphatarget1

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I don't see how anyone could view this as a negative on McCain's part. He's suspending his campaign to do his job as a senator. When was last time Obama did his job? Oh wait, he started a presidential campaign 3 years into his 6 year term.

I wish when senators run for the presidency they'd resign like Bob Dole did so his state would be adequately represented.

Neither Obama nor McCain has a plan to fix the economy. I don't think anybody does. McCain isn't asking for the debate to be cancelled, he is asking it to be postponed. I personally think it's an honorable thing to do, much like how he said he'd rather lose an election than lose a war.
 

bdude

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Originally posted by: alphatarget1
I don't see how anyone could view this as a negative on McCain's part. He's suspending his campaign to do his job as a senator. When was last time Obama did his job? Oh wait, he started a presidential campaign 3 years into his 6 year term.

I wish when senators run for the presidency they'd resign like Bob Dole did so his state would be adequately represented.

Neither Obama nor McCain has a plan to fix the economy. I don't think anybody does. McCain isn't asking for the debate to be cancelled, he is asking it to be postponed. I personally think it's an honorable thing to do, much like how he said he'd rather lose an election than lose a war.

Why did he choose Sarah Palin.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: alphatarget1
I don't see how anyone could view this as a negative on McCain's part. He's suspending his campaign to do his job as a senator. When was last time Obama did his job? Oh wait, he started a presidential campaign 3 years into his 6 year term.

I wish when senators run for the presidency they'd resign like Bob Dole did so his state would be adequately represented.

Neither Obama nor McCain has a plan to fix the economy. I don't think anybody does. McCain isn't asking for the debate to be cancelled, he is asking it to be postponed. I personally think it's an honorable thing to do, much like how he said he'd rather lose an election than lose a war.

You should try at least skimming through a thread before posting. That way, you'd avoid this kind of self-pwnage in the future. IOW, this aspect of the issue has already been brought up, including how McCain's attendance record in the Senate is even worse than Obama's (yet for some reason that doesn't stop McCain's disciples from posting about Obama's attendance record every chance they get).

:roll:
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: AllWhacked
Originally posted by: OrByteHe will vote on it like every other senator out there that is trying to figure out what the treasury, senate banking committee, and the white house want to do with this crisis.

Its not like Obama or McCain will walk into a room and everyone will await their orders. They aren't even on any relevant committee.

He showed leadership by not knee-jerking and calling for the Chris Cox's head on a platter like McCain did

He also showed leadership and intelligence when he didnt release an economic plan whilst the actual sitting administration and treasury were running around trying to put the fires out on wall street.

Everytime a crisis comes up John McCain wants to be there front and center to show off his "leadership" Im sorry but I dont respect the opportunism of John McCain.

And I am sure Obama will be able to "skip a rally or two" and participate when and where needed. Its John McCain that can't seem to keep two trains of thought going through his head at one time.

Well, that contradicts what Reid has been saying. Reid said: ?We need, now, the Republicans to start producing some votes for us. We need the Republican nominee for president to let us know where he stands and what we should do.?

Source

All this week, Harry "I don't know what to do" Reid has been passing the buck to Republicans that McCain needs to show leadership in this bailout. Now McCain is coming back and people think this is a publicity stunt. Perhaps it is, perhaps not. But right or wrong, the Democrats have been asking for McCain to show leadership (with the assumption that he would stay on the campaign trail and therefore they could keep blasting McCain). Now that McCain has called their bluff, Reid has the gall to retract this call of leadership and basically ask both candidates to stay away. [Source]

I'm sure that this was after Obama showed no enthusiasm of coming back to make a vote on this and therefore take a stand on something.
Thats great! SO is it Harry Reid that is showing leadership and McCain abiding by Reid's request!?

no somehow I don't think thats the case.

And now that McCain is going back to Washington he better make damn sure his paw prints are going to be all over whatever bill is passed.

Or he will look even weaker when compared to those parties that have been actively pursuing a resolution to this Wall Street mess for weeks if not months. That would be your congressional banking committee members, the treasury, SEC, and GWB.

McCain needs to produce something now. I'd like to see how Pelosi and Reid are going to allow that to happen. Did McCain really not see any of this coming?!

He screwed himself.
 

Throckmorton

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: loki8481
isn't he just temporarily suspending it in order to give his full attention to the bail-out bill in the senate as opposed to blindly voting the party line?

Precisely. McCain wants to spend time working on a real issue facing America right now, but Obama can't be bothered. We already know how he is going to vote on this one. "PRESENT"

What work do you expect McCain to do? Congress is a place where representatives VOTE. Unless McCain is authoring any bills, "working on a real issue" will consist of casting one vote.
 

Young Grasshopper

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Originally posted by: alphatarget1
I don't see how anyone could view this as a negative on McCain's part. He's suspending his campaign to do his job as a senator. When was last time Obama did his job? Oh wait, he started a presidential campaign 3 years into his 6 year term.

I wish when senators run for the presidency they'd resign like Bob Dole did so his state would be adequately represented.

Neither Obama nor McCain has a plan to fix the economy. I don't think anybody does. McCain isn't asking for the debate to be cancelled, he is asking it to be postponed. I personally think it's an honorable thing to do, much like how he said he'd rather lose an election than lose a war.



Why is he getting involved in this crisis now, considering he feels 'the fundamentals of our economy are strong'? If you cant figure out the only reason he is doing this is because the economy is the #1 issue in this election, and he is now starting to lag behind in the polls because of it then you're just a blind sheep.
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: loki8481
has McCain come out for or against the bail out?

my head's been a little buried in the sand all week thanks to work stuff.

The very day the crisis began McCain was out there saying, "The fundamentals of the economy are strong."

His campaign later explained that by "fundamentals", he meant American workers. I kid you not.

The next day, though, he called for the firing of SEC Chairman Cox, never mind that McCain was chairman of the Senate Finance Committee that heartily approved Cox's appointment, or that, by statue, the Chariman serves for a fixed term and cannot be fired.

This prompted a wide range of national figures to take McCain to task, including, but certainly not limited to, the highly conservative columnist George Will, who goes on to write that during this financial crisis McCain "is behaving like a flustered rookie playing in a league too high.?

At that point, I stopped paying attention to anything further McCain had to say, and sent him down to the minors in my fantasy politico league, to work on his distressing proclivity to swing and miss at just about everything.
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: ranmaniac
From drudge:

David Letterman tells audience that McCain called him today to tell him he had to rush back to DC to deal with the economy.

Then in the middle of the taping Dave got word that McCain was, in fact just down the street being interviewed by Katie Couric. Dave even cut over to the live video of the interview, and said, "Hey Senator, can I give you a ride home?"

Earlier in the show, Dave kept saying, "You don't suspend your campaign. This doesn't smell right. This isn't the way a tested hero behaves." And he joked: "I think someone's putting something in his metamucil."

"He can't run the campaign because the economy is cratering? Fine, put in your second string quarterback, Sara Palin. Where is she?"

"What are you going to do if you're elected and things get tough? Suspend being president? We've got a guy like that now!"

Developing...


:laugh:
Man, that is precious :)


 

Drift3r

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Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Fern
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I mean, do we really even want the guy who says he doesn't understand economics to help engineer a $1 trillion bailout?

As opposed to what?

Some clueless windbag of an attorney in Congress who lies and claims that he does know much about this financial matter?

I don't believe any of them know jack sh!t about it, I don't care what they may say to the contrary.

They need some honest assessments from REAL financial experts. There's likely to be disagreements among them, so yeah, I say they need to be there to listen etc and make the decision. Otherwise, they'll be abandoning the matter to some committee flunky that no one knows.

Fern

Yeah the same finical experts who used their lobbying power to get us into this mess in the first place. By using their finical expertise in forcing the lifting of regulations which originally were in place to stem if not out right prevent such a finical fiasco.
 

brencat

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I think potential presidents need to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. In that context, I believe McCain postponing the debate will backfire on him though not to any serious extent. Talk of him not being prepared for a foreign policy debate as the reason for the delay is just nonsense as this is the one topic he should be able to run circles around Obama on with little to no preparation. Let's see if he changes his mind.