McCain said 40% of the budget surplus has already been spent

[JellyBaby]

I was watching Meet the Press this past weekend and McCain and a democrat...forget his damn name but he's one of the "good guys"...was on. McCain stated 40% of the surplus has already been spent and he pointed at both congress and Clinton for responsibility. I'm not sure if he meant the entire surplus over 10 years or a portion of it. In any case, it pretty much distintegrates both Bush Jr. and Gore's fiscal plans doesn't it? It amazes me every day how Joe and Jane Q. Public continue to vote for these two-party weasels time and time again.

And it gets worse. They discussed campaign finance reform and McCain's bill. McCain reaffirmed that Bush doesn't support his bill (but he's in favor of portions...whoppie). The bill passed in the senate already. If congress finishes voting on it, up or down, McCain says he?ll ?shut up?. Now say the bill passes. You and I know if Shrub is elected he?ll veto it?big-time. That kills campaign finance reform for years (they?ll move on to more ?pressing? issues)!

And if Bush wins, he?ll be obligated to run again in 2004. That leaves an opening for McCain in 2008. Guess what? McCain will be 72 years old then so he?s not gonna run. Looks pretty grim doesn?t it?

 

[Adul]

McCain should have ran has an independent candidate. I think his chances would have been interesting.

 

[Shuxclams]

There was no surplus, that means we are spending Social Security money, not "surplus".



SHUX

 

[JellyBaby]

Adul,

McCain said even if Bush Jr. loses, he expects Dick Cheney to run for the Rs in 2004. Even if McCain ran as Dick's VP, that would not be enough to guarantee any campaign reform, financial or otherwise. And he's said several times he would not run as an I. ah heck!

 

[IronMike]

Jelly, the other guy was Kerry, Democrat of Nebraska. Both he and McCain are held in great esteem not only because both men are decorated Vietnam vets but they are men of integrity and are not afraid to cross party lines to support issues of importance to us all. In fact it was believed by many politicos that they they were a new breed of politician and some even hoped that they might form an independent party where both were on the same ticket. No such luck.
McCain is too much of a realist to go independent. He thinks it would hurt his party and believes that at present his party, even at it's worse, can better guide the country. That could change however if Georgie W. takes a nasty turn and falls too much in line with the religious right.
As I was watching "Meet the Press" I thought what a wonderful political system we would have if we had to make a choice between these two guys.
And despite what many republicans think, McCain doesn't like or respect Georgie very much. I noticed too, that Kerry took some serious shots at Georgie's military record.

 

[JellyBaby]

<< He thinks it would hurt his party and believes that at present his party, even at it's worse, can better guide the country. >>

IronMike,

Yes he does and I hope he's right. However, the Rs have had defections in recent memory. Buchanan was a key politico under Reagan and he jumped ship because he felt the Rs were no longer true to their conservative roots.

As for Gore and Bush's military records, they're both imperfect. Bush served in the guard and though the democrats would make us all believe he never showed up for duty, pictures like this one of a young Shrub in uniform lead me to believe there's no wrongdoing here. (The full story was here. And I didn?t know Gore was only in Vietnam for 4 months?I had thought it was much longer. Anyway, point is they both have a rather pansy military record.

 

[IronMike]

<< Anyway, point is they both have a rather pansy military record. >>


Pansy isn't the word for it. If both wanted to avoid getting killed or maimed for such a questionable objective, I am fine with that. But the fact that these two want to glorify their nothing records in this area, to the dishonor of those who suffered for their decision, is sickening.
You are either in denial or joking with these pictures of Bush in uniform.

 

[JellyBaby]

<< You are either in denial or joking with these pictures of Bush in uniform. >>

IronMike,

Could be. My preference is for my national leaders have a strong military background but it's not mandatory. Yes, I realize both knew they needed to pad their resume with service. Even if either or both truly felt the way they claim they do about Vietnam and service, the whole political picture today is so damn murky with rhetoric from all sides that nobody will ever know the truth.

 

[Tripleshot]

>>>Nor was George junior a war hero. Upon graduating Yale in 1968, he found himself eligible for the draft. To avoid likely service in Vietnam, he joined the Texas Air National Guard, knowing full well it was highly unlikely he'd be called to active duty.<<<

Sounds like the perfect person to uplift morale in the military ranks!:|

We still want to know about those missing 18 months of his service record and his failure to report for his flight physical as mandated by his Commanding Officer.

This isn't the kind of person that would inspire me when I was in the service.We would look at him as a coward and frag meat! He went AWOL while he was stateside, not even threatened by unfriendly fire ,and my friends were dieing on punji sticks in the jungle for this bastard to be President.

GRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrr:|:|:|:|