McCain Praise Of Cheney In 2004

Harvey

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This comment by McCain from July, 2004 may or may not be his view, now. I think someone should ask McCain if he still agrees with his own words.

At a July 15 appearance in Michigan, McCain dampened the speculation by calling Cheney "one of the most capable, experienced, intelligent and steady vice presidents this country has ever had."

Here's the full article for context.

If McCain still believes this, it would give new meaning to calling him, McSame.
 
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It's funny, I agree with every one of those adjectives, but think he has been a dreadful VP. There's no question IMO that Cheney is capable, experienced, intelligent and steady, it's just that he has used those qualities for evil rather than for good. I wouldn't be surprised if McCain felt the same way.
 

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It's like calling Stalin "Intelligent, motivated, driven, experienced" Sure they fit, but he didn't use it for the right reasons.
 

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Cheney is a perfect example of why we need to get rid of neo-conservatism in government. It is a failed ideology, and the past 7+ years have proven that without any doubt.
 

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Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
It's funny, I agree with every one of those adjectives, but think he has been a dreadful VP. There's no question IMO that Cheney is capable, experienced, intelligent and steady, it's just that he has used those qualities for evil rather than for good. I wouldn't be surprised if McCain felt the same way.
I wouldn't call him 'evil'

More like overly zealous. But then again we are only seeing one side of the store. Perhaps 20 years from now as stuff starts to become declassified we will look at him in a different light.
 

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He should ask Cheney to be his VP.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
It's funny, I agree with every one of those adjectives, but think he has been a dreadful VP. There's no question IMO that Cheney is capable, experienced, intelligent and steady, it's just that he has used those qualities for evil rather than for good. I wouldn't be surprised if McCain felt the same way.
I wouldn't call him 'evil'

More like overly zealous. But then again we are only seeing one side of the store. Perhaps 20 years from now as stuff starts to become declassified we will look at him in a different light.

No.
 

Tab

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Cheney is a perfect example of why we need to get rid of neo-conservatism in government. It is a failed ideology, and the past 7+ years have proven that without any doubt.

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
It's funny, I agree with every one of those adjectives, but think he has been a dreadful VP. There's no question IMO that Cheney is capable, experienced, intelligent and steady, it's just that he has used those qualities for evil rather than for good. I wouldn't be surprised if McCain felt the same way.
I wouldn't call him 'evil'

More like overly zealous. But then again we are only seeing one side of the store. Perhaps 20 years from now as stuff starts to become declassified we will look at him in a different light.

I never said he was evil, I said he used his strengths for evil purposes. As it happens I do think he is so patently amoral that it wouldn't be out of line to call him evil, but without knowing him personally I can't really comfortably draw that conclusion.
 

Tab

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In interviews for Stephen Hayes? 2007 biography of Cheney, McCain "strongly" asserted that Cheney "has been of enormous help to this president of the United States." Politico?s Jonathan Martin reports today that in unpublished comments to Hayes, McCain also said that he would consider Cheney for a post in his administration:

Going further, McCain even told Hayes in comments heretofore unpublished that he?d consider Cheney for an administration post.

Asked whether he?d be interested in Cheney had the vice president not already have served under Bush for two terms, McCain said: "I don?t know if I would want him as vice president. He and I have the same strengths. But to serve in other capacities? Hell, yeah."

McCain in support of Cheney in 2007

Yet another reason why I'm not voting for McSame...
 

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McCain Praise's him - for what? I mean, yeah great he's the best capable, experienced, intelligent, Blah! Blah! Blah! .... The best we ever had? Damn that's rich!


But.........What the f...k did he do? What did he accomplish? How did he make the country better?

McSame might as well get down on his knees and start sucking and do it with a smile.

Both the President and the VP will probably go down as the worst in history.


On that note, you gotta wonder - What will McSame say about Bush?
 

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We must understand that Cheney praised Rumsfeld as the best secretary of defense we ever had some two months after GWB fired Rumsfeld. But when it comes to his ex chief of staff, Scooter Libby, he did not even bother to thank him for doing his dirty work and not finking him out.

And even while GWB was saying he would never get rid of Rumsfeld, he was secretly talking to Gates as a Runny replacement.

So pardon me for asking, where can I get a neocon to English dictionary so I can better understand GWB&co triple speak.
 

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
It's funny, I agree with every one of those adjectives, but think he has been a dreadful VP. There's no question IMO that Cheney is capable, experienced, intelligent and steady, it's just that he has used those qualities for evil rather than for good. I wouldn't be surprised if McCain felt the same way.
I wouldn't call him 'evil'

More like overly zealous. But then again we are only seeing one side of the store. Perhaps 20 years from now as stuff starts to become declassified we will look at him in a different light.

Some would say that Stalin was overly zealous too.

The side of the story that I see is that we have a "paranoid to the point of delusion" Vice President who is 100% detached from reality.

Is there another side?

 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Tab

McCain in support of Cheney in 2007

Yet another reason why I'm not voting for McSame...

Yet another reason to know McSame as President would be more of the McSAME war of lies and piss poor economics. :thumbsdown:

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

I wouldn't call him 'evil'

More like overly zealous. But then again we are only seeing one side of the store. Perhaps 20 years from now as stuff starts to become declassified we will look at him in a different light.

And you wonder why I call you a sycophantic neocon liar? :roll:
 

jman19

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
It's funny, I agree with every one of those adjectives, but think he has been a dreadful VP. There's no question IMO that Cheney is capable, experienced, intelligent and steady, it's just that he has used those qualities for evil rather than for good. I wouldn't be surprised if McCain felt the same way.
I wouldn't call him 'evil'

More like overly zealous. But then again we are only seeing one side of the store. Perhaps 20 years from now as stuff starts to become declassified we will look at him in a different light.

There's no point in putting lipstick on this pig - and guess what, you can say what you said about Cheney about almost any modern day executive branch member. Pure speculation, and there is no reason to believe he is anything other than what we see him as.