McCain leads 46 percent to 40 percent in a hypothetical matchup against Obama

[ntdz]

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I didn't think, and still don't really think, McCain stands a chance against Obama. However, this poll is giving me hope. Does this worry all you Obama supporters out there?

 

[Farang]

You have to remember Obama backed into a corner right now, with two heavyweights taking swing after swing at him. If he is able to subdue the Wright issue, at least to keep it hovering mostly in obscurity, his numbers will certainly begin to pick up after Clinton drops.

But yes he does stand a good chance, especially if the war keeps on like it has. Nobody really cares about it anymore.

As an Obama supporter it doesn't really worry me, for two reasons. First, in this election I do not absolutely hate either of the candidates. Second, I firmly believe Obama will annihilate McCain in debates. It will be quite pathetic. I don't mean to disrespect McCain but he is absolutely horrible at public speaking and debating, his repetition of phrases will not work versus Obama.

 

[bamacre]

I think it is too early to put too much into those polls.

If Hillary would drop out, or fall off a cliff and die, we could get on with the real campaigning and get some harder numbers.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: bamacre
I think it is too early to put too much into those polls.

If Hillary would drop out, or fall off a cliff and die, we could get on with the real campaigning and get some harder numbers.

Exactly. These numbers will change once the Democratic nominee is locked in.

 

[IEC]

What if Hillary wins?

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
What if Hillary wins?

that's a pretty giant "if."

she'd have to have a huge win in PA and either win in NC or at least close the gap, none of which seems likely... and that's not even going to do it for her, but that could just put her in a position to try and make an argument to the super delegates that electing her is in the best long-term interests of the party, which will be no small feat.

she's not going to be able to close the delegate gap, so her only hope will be a lead in the popular vote, which is exceedingly unlikely now that Obama's succeeded in Operation: Let's Flip Off FL/MI Voters.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
What if Hillary wins?

Democrats enter their own Civil War.

 

[chowderhead]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
What if Hillary wins?

Democrats enter their own Civil War.

it takes 2 to have a civil war. Someone needs to get these two into a room and hammer out a deal.
I won't believe a Zogby poll. Might as well throw darts or flip a coin.

Edit: new poll out of NC (PPP a polling firm based out of NC) show Obama up by 1.

 

[sportage]

Pee Wee Herman could win in the fall if he was a democrat.
All the democratic candidate has to say over and over is a McCain
quote, "100 years of war". And as to the economy, gas will be $4+
by then and most everyone would have spent their $600.
But this ongoing war will be the key to the Whitehouse front door.
And the democrats hold that key.

 

[Drako]

Originally posted by: ntdz
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I didn't think, and still don't really think, McCain stands a chance against Obama. However, this poll is giving me hope. Does this worry all you Obama supporters out there?

Still don't know what Obama stands for, other than socialism. Dont care about the race BS. I'm voting for whoever I can read, which is not Obama at this point in time.

 

[M0RPH]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
What if Hillary wins?

that's a pretty giant "if."

she'd have to have a huge win in PA and either win in NC or at least close the gap, none of which seems likely... and that's not even going to do it for her, but that could just put her in a position to try and make an argument to the super delegates that electing her is in the best long-term interests of the party, which will be no small feat.

she's not going to be able to close the delegate gap, so her only hope will be a lead in the popular vote, which is exceedingly unlikely now that Obama's succeeded in Operation: Let's Flip Off FL/MI Voters.

Just a FYI, they showed a poll on MSNBC today that showed Clinton had pulled to within 1 point in NC. I know, I know, polls don't mean crap... but Obama's numbers in general seem to be sliding in lots of different polls.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Drako

Originally posted by: ntdz
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I didn't think, and still don't really think, McCain stands a chance against Obama. However, this poll is giving me hope. Does this worry all you Obama supporters out there?

Still don't know what Obama stands for, other than socialism. Dont care about the race BS. I'm voting for whoever I can read, which is not Obama at this point in time.

it's simple, really... Obama stands for Obama. put all your faith and trust in him and a vote for him is all you need to do to save the US-of-KKKA.

 

[MadRat]

You want to trail in the polls pre-election. The trend is the media will slay the goliath for the david.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: MadRat
You want to trail in the polls pre-election. The trend is the media will slay the goliath for the david.

certainly worked out well for ron paul

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: M0RPH

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
What if Hillary wins?

that's a pretty giant "if."

she'd have to have a huge win in PA and either win in NC or at least close the gap, none of which seems likely... and that's not even going to do it for her, but that could just put her in a position to try and make an argument to the super delegates that electing her is in the best long-term interests of the party, which will be no small feat.

she's not going to be able to close the delegate gap, so her only hope will be a lead in the popular vote, which is exceedingly unlikely now that Obama's succeeded in Operation: Let's Flip Off FL/MI Voters.

Just a FYI, they showed a poll on MSNBC today that showed Clinton had pulled to within 1 point in NC. I know, I know, polls don't mean crap... but Obama's numbers in general seem to be sliding in lots of different polls.

Means about as much as a poll showing Gore within 1 on January 19, 2001.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: M0RPH

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
What if Hillary wins?

that's a pretty giant "if."

she'd have to have a huge win in PA and either win in NC or at least close the gap, none of which seems likely... and that's not even going to do it for her, but that could just put her in a position to try and make an argument to the super delegates that electing her is in the best long-term interests of the party, which will be no small feat.

she's not going to be able to close the delegate gap, so her only hope will be a lead in the popular vote, which is exceedingly unlikely now that Obama's succeeded in Operation: Let's Flip Off FL/MI Voters.

Just a FYI, they showed a poll on MSNBC today that showed Clinton had pulled to within 1 point in NC. I know, I know, polls don't mean crap... but Obama's numbers in general seem to be sliding in lots of different polls.

Means about as much as a poll showing Gore within 1 on January 19, 2001.

or how badly GWB did in all of the debates.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Drako

Originally posted by: ntdz
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I didn't think, and still don't really think, McCain stands a chance against Obama. However, this poll is giving me hope. Does this worry all you Obama supporters out there?

Still don't know what Obama stands for, other than socialism. Dont care about the race BS. I'm voting for whoever I can read, which is not Obama at this point in time.

it's simple, really... Obama stands for Obama. put all your faith and trust in him and a vote for him is all you need to do to save the US-of-KKKA.

This is pure bullshit. Obama has made perfectly clear what he stands for, as much if not more than the other candidates.

I think I've chalked you up in the hack category. Either you don't know what you're talking about or you choose to distort the facts because you think that discussions here are some sort of game you need to win. What I don't see is any willingness to engage in a reasonable argument. M0RPH, techs, Drako, loki. Let the list be made.

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Drako

Originally posted by: ntdz
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I didn't think, and still don't really think, McCain stands a chance against Obama. However, this poll is giving me hope. Does this worry all you Obama supporters out there?

Still don't know what Obama stands for, other than socialism. Dont care about the race BS. I'm voting for whoever I can read, which is not Obama at this point in time.

it's simple, really... Obama stands for Obama. put all your faith and trust in him and a vote for him is all you need to do to save the US-of-KKKA.

This is pure bullshit. Obama has made perfectly clear what he stands for, as much if not more than the other candidates.

I think I've chalked you up in the hack category. Either you don't know what you're talking about or you choose to distort the facts because you think that discussions here are some sort of game you need to win. What I don't see is any willingness to engage in a reasonable argument. M0RPH, techs, Drako, loki. Let the list be made.

That is one thing I like about Obama. He actually tells you where he stands on an issue. The others just spout meaningless drivel half of the time when they are talking.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: sportage
Pee Wee Herman could win in the fall if he was a democrat.
All the democratic candidate has to say over and over is a McCain
quote, "100 years of war". And as to the economy, gas will be $4+
by then and most everyone would have spent their $600.
But this ongoing war will be the key to the Whitehouse front door.
And the democrats hold that key.

Not sure why you are underestimating McCain that much. Polls do show him in the lead. Not saying that he'll win but it'll be a tough battle for whoever wins.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Drako

Originally posted by: ntdz
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I didn't think, and still don't really think, McCain stands a chance against Obama. However, this poll is giving me hope. Does this worry all you Obama supporters out there?

Still don't know what Obama stands for, other than socialism. Dont care about the race BS. I'm voting for whoever I can read, which is not Obama at this point in time.

it's simple, really... Obama stands for Obama. put all your faith and trust in him and a vote for him is all you need to do to save the US-of-KKKA.

This is pure bullshit. Obama has made perfectly clear what he stands for, as much if not more than the other candidates.

I think I've chalked you up in the hack category. Either you don't know what you're talking about or you choose to distort the facts because you think that discussions here are some sort of game you need to win. What I don't see is any willingness to engage in a reasonable argument. M0RPH, techs, Drako, loki. Let the list be made.

I go for the occasional cheap shot because I think it's funny. but I'm pretty non-partisan when it comes to that. if I'm a hack, I don't know what I'd make of the Obama fanboys on this forum who would probably find a way to defend him if he was caught taking a dump on the american flag while attending a black panthers meeting. but unlike some others, I keep my barbs mostly directly squarely at the candidates.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: sportage
Pee Wee Herman could win in the fall if he was a democrat.
All the democratic candidate has to say over and over is a McCain
quote, "100 years of war". And as to the economy, gas will be $4+
by then and most everyone would have spent their $600.
But this ongoing war will be the key to the Whitehouse front door.
And the democrats hold that key.

Not sure why you are underestimating McCain that much. Polls do show him in the lead. Not saying that he'll win but it'll be a tough battle for whoever wins.

The man is just too old. There is a very real chance his health will drastically decline when he's in office. He's at that age. He will be 72 if he becomes president.

There's an age limit for being too young...why not too old?

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: sportage
Pee Wee Herman could win in the fall if he was a democrat.
All the democratic candidate has to say over and over is a McCain
quote, "100 years of war". And as to the economy, gas will be $4+
by then and most everyone would have spent their $600.
But this ongoing war will be the key to the Whitehouse front door.
And the democrats hold that key.

Not sure why you are underestimating McCain that much. Polls do show him in the lead. Not saying that he'll win but it'll be a tough battle for whoever wins.

The man is just too old. There is a very real chance his health will drastically decline when he's in office. He's at that age. He will be 72 if he becomes president.

There's an age limit for being too young...why not too old?

he'll be about the same age as reagan when he began his second term and Golda Meir when she was elected Israeli Prime Minister, and he has heavily hinted that he'd only serve for a single term. but heck, Churchill was 77 when he was elected PM.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: sportage
Pee Wee Herman could win in the fall if he was a democrat.
All the democratic candidate has to say over and over is a McCain
quote, "100 years of war". And as to the economy, gas will be $4+
by then and most everyone would have spent their $600.
But this ongoing war will be the key to the Whitehouse front door.
And the democrats hold that key.

You forget, there are plenty of idiots who will support mccain regardless. No personal attacks allowed, but just in this thread the OP referred to it as hope that mccain may win. People like him will not be swayed by reason or logic, so the democrats cannot possibly sway them.

he'll be about the same age as reagan when he began his second term and Golda Meir when she was elected Israeli Prime Minister, and he has heavily hinted that he'd only serve for a single term. but heck, Churchill was 77 when he was elected PM.

The man is old, though and had cancer years ago. The office has a way of keeping old folk alive, but I do think it's somewhat of a valid concern--certainly his VP is of more significance than Obama's. McCain just seems like a guy who is literally chomping at the bit to have a single and fatal heart attack at any time. I can see it in his face for some reason.

 

[Genx87]

Polls are worthless right now.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Polls are worthless right now.

Exactly. Other than the type of wonks who post here all the time (myself included), nobody really KNOWS anything about the candidates...so polls are based almost entirely on people randomly picking candidates with no real explanation for why.