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Talk about a crushing mandate by the people. The enormous majorities held by Democrats in both the House and Senate mean Obama and the Democrats can pass the legislation they want without dealing with GOP-generated gridlock.
Remember McCain? That old dude who got spanked like child last November? It seems he is a glutton for punishment, reminding us how irrelevant he is with each passing day. Today the Senate defeated Sidney's version of a stimulus plan 57-40.
Meanwhile Reid has the Republican votes necessary to reach the 60 votes needed to pass Obama's stimulus plan.
It seems to me, if the American people actually cared about the GOP agenda, they would have elected more than 40 of them to the Senate.
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Remember McCain? That old dude who got spanked like child last November? It seems he is a glutton for punishment, reminding us how irrelevant he is with each passing day. Today the Senate defeated Sidney's version of a stimulus plan 57-40.
Meanwhile Reid has the Republican votes necessary to reach the 60 votes needed to pass Obama's stimulus plan.
It seems to me, if the American people actually cared about the GOP agenda, they would have elected more than 40 of them to the Senate.
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The Senate has killed an alternative economic stimulus plan by Sen. John McCain that would have cut income and payroll taxes but spent far less than President Obama's plan.
The party-line 57-40 vote against McCain's $421 billion plan came Thursday as a group of moderate Democrats and Republicans struggled to cut up to $100 billion from Obama's version.
McCain's plan would have cut the bottom two income tax brackets and lowered corporate income taxes. It also would have extended unemployment benefits and provide money to repair and replace military equipment worn out in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Obama defeated McCain for the presidency last fall.
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It's going to be a long eight years for the GOP.Democratic Senate leaders said this afternoon that they have the votes to pass the stimulus bill and suggested they have little interest in making further changes to win more Republican support.
Senators began voting on a series of amendments to the measure on Thursday afternoon. In the chamber's first vote to alter the bill, senators defeated Sen. John McCain's $425 billion alternative to the package.
After considering a slew of amendments, it is possible there could be a final Senate vote on the stimulus bill later tonight.
Earlier Thursday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., told reporters he has the votes -- with no further changes -- to pass the economic stimulus bill.
"We believe we do" have the votes, Reid said. "We believe we can find two Republicans of goodwill to do the right thing for their country."
Reid had also said he believed all 58 Democrats would vote for the bill. With Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., absent this evening, Democrats would need three Republicans to side with them to receive the 60 votes needed to pass the measure.
"Has bipartisanship failed?" asked Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y. "So far it's not working, but it takes two to tango and so far the Republicans aren't dancing. The hard right has a stranglehold on most of the Republicans."
Meantime, moderate senators have been meeting today to "scrub" wasteful spending from the bill. Reid said he is happy to talk to those senators, but doesn't feel compelled to support their cuts.
"The question is: Do they work in an effort to strengthen the bill or destroy the bill?" Reid said.
Schumer also suggested it is irrelevant whether the bill gets more Republican support.
He said that three months from now, "it will vanish in the wind how many votes we got, as long as we pass it."
Still, the senators spending the day trying to trim the bill seem convinced Reid has miscalculated and needs their support to pass the measure.
"I would say to the majority leader that his success depends on the success of this group," said Maine Sen. Susan Collins.
Senators Meet to 'Scrub' Bill of Wasteful Spending
A group of 16 senators was meeting today behind closed doors to hammer out a package of cuts.
According to Collins, R-Maine, the group achieved an "in-depth scrubbing of the bill, going line by line item by item."
Emerging from the meeting for a midday break, Sen. Joe Lieberman said the group of Democrats and five Republicans were at a "breakthrough" moment.
Ohio Sen. George Voinovich, one of the moderate Republicans who participated in the closed-door meeting, told ABC News he expects the group to get behind lowering the overall size of the bill to $750 billion.
To sell the package, Voinovich also said he expects several governors to come to Washington, D.C., next week to vouch for the speed with which the proposed federal projects could begin.
Collins also said President Obama had convinced her Wednesday that the bill needs to be larger than $650 billion, but she would not say what the top line would be after the scrubbing is complete. Collins said the senators "agreed to tens of billions of adjustments."
Much of the funding they cut will be redirected to an omnibus funding bill for regular government appropriations. For instance, Collins said the stimulus had funding for pandemic flu preparation, something that concerns all senators but should not be in a stimulus.
Despite efforts to cut wasteful spending, it continues to grow.
The bill was $819 billion when it passed the House. It hit the Senate floor Monday at $887 billion. And after a flurry of amendments, it now stands at $920 billion.
Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., said on MSNBC this morning that he has already identified more than $100 billion in spending he considers extraneous -- fueling GOP arguments that the measure has gotten out of hand.
"You really did have these proposals going into the appropriations committees and people filling up buckets with projects," Webb said. "My staff went through this thing a couple of nights ago. We found more than $100 billion of items that really don't meet those criteria and that's part of the debate we're having right now. Do we add something with those or can we take those out?"
Debate on the Senate floor got heated this morning.
"This bill stinks," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C. "The process that brought it here stinks. Not a single Republican in the House voted for it. Maybe every Republican is just crazy, I don't think so."
There are still an undetermined number of amendments to be voted on, including the McCain alternative -- a $475 billion bill that includes $275 billion in tax cuts -- and a still unwritten amendment to come from the centrist group that would cut extraneous spending.
But Democratic leaders insist there is very little extraneous spending. Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin, D-Ill., said the so-called "pork" provisions in the bill were minuscule in relation to the 735-page bill.
"If I could do this in a symbolic way, that their measures account for one page," Durbin said, ripping the sheet of paper. "One page of this bill. You listen to the things that they list, that they found so objectionable, they count, in dollar terms, to about one page of this bill."
In the House, meantime, leaders of the fiscally conservative Democratic Blue Dog Coalition sent a letter Wednesday to Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer urging more scrubbing of the stimulus bill when the House revisits the bill in conference.
Two of the eight leaders who signed the letter joined the unanimous House Republican conference in voting against the stimulus bill last week in the House.
The letter notes that "while a number of Blue Dogs voted against the package considered in the House, many of those who did support it did so with serious reservations and the conviction that the package should and would be improved through Senate consideration."
"Now that the Senate is debating its stimulus and recovery package, reports indicate certain senators, including Sen. [Ben] Nelson of Nebraska and Sen. [Susan] Collins of Maine, are engaged in a bipartisan effort to pare further spending. We believe that's a highly worthwhile goal, and that there are additional provisions that would be better left for consideration in regular order," wrote the Blue Dogs.
"We look forward to working with you to achieve that goal and ensure that any final stimulus and recovery package is properly focused to achieve the results the American people expect and deserve. "