wered, i just like to have the best, the swiftech will be used on a tbird 1.2ghz chip, so the best FOR the best i dont think is inapropriate. as far as the peltier/waterblock from them, that will be something to play around with when i have the time, but there is no way im going to put something like that on a system that i actually care about breaking when the chaces of me screing something up are a thousand times higher. im sure you agree with me : )