MazdaSpeed - lost keys

Hellotalkie

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I misplaced both keys D:

I've been talking to multiple dealerships, many have quoted me 400 for each key plus hour labor. They need two to reprogram them.

I bought two uncut keys on ebay for about 80 (total).

Supposedly I need to have my car towed in order for them to reprogram. Does this sound right to anyone? I remember talking to one service guy, telling me he just needs the keys; unfortunately I didn't get his name.

Such an expensive mistake. I've been locked out of my car for about a month now (been using my crx).
 

CrackRabbit

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Most cars with electronic keys require the key to be in the ignition to program it.

I was able to have a local locksmith program a key for my old Focus when I wanted an extra, but I had one of the original keys to start with.

Before handing over $400 to a dealer check on Yelp for some reputable local locksmiths that specialize in automotive locksmithing to see if they can do it cheaper.
They may even be mobile and you won't have to tow your car.
 

Raduque

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The problem with losing both keys, is that you now no longer have a key to clone. Pretty sure almost every locksmith clones an existing key to cut/program a new one.

You'll have to have a dealer cut and program the key by the VIN. I would just keep calling dealers till you find one that will be willing to do it cheap.
 

Hellotalkie

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The problem with losing both keys, is that you now no longer have a key to clone. Pretty sure almost every locksmith clones an existing key to cut/program a new one.

You'll have to have a dealer cut and program the key by the VIN. I would just keep calling dealers till you find one that will be willing to do it cheap.

Yeah I just don't understand why they need my car if they store the programming information in the computer.
 

onza

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the chip is within the key itself.. even if you do not have keyless start the same would apply. Sorry about your troubles..

BUT HOW THE F DO YOU MISPLACE two sets of keys?
 

boomhower

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Every car I had you programmed it in the car through a series of switching in ignition on and off, hitting a door unlock, etc. Just google it and you should be able to find it. Just google it. If that works just have the dealer cut one of the keys for and get the other cut somewhere else.
 

LTC8K6

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Every car I had you programmed it in the car through a series of switching in ignition on and off, hitting a door unlock, etc. Just google it and you should be able to find it. Just google it. If that works just have the dealer cut one of the keys for and get the other cut somewhere else.

You generally need two working keys to do that.
 

jaedaliu

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Every car I had you programmed it in the car through a series of switching in ignition on and off, hitting a door unlock, etc. Just google it and you should be able to find it. Just google it. If that works just have the dealer cut one of the keys for and get the other cut somewhere else.

Yeah, look that up. You should be able to reprogram the key at home. In my Altima, it has to be inserted into the no-battery key slot thing.

You generally need two working keys to do that.

I doubt many cars need 2 working keys in order to program a 3rd key. The car should have all the information it needs.

To the OP: use google to see if you can reprogram the key yourself. However, you still need to take the blanks to the dealer to get them to cut it for you from their records. I would imagine they could program the keys for you at the same time without your car, but in case they charge more, just do it yourself at home afterwards.
 

MiataNC

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A quick google search revealed that you need 2 keys to program a 3rd on newer Mazdas. Your only option is the dealer at this point.

Items needed:
1. 2 pre-programmed transponder keys.
2. 1 new transponder key

The timing is critical to this procedure, please read through the entire procedure before attempting.
Procedure:
1. Insert one of the pre-programmed transponder keys and turn the ignition to "on", leave on for at least one second (I wait until the red key symbol in the instrument cluster extinguishes), remove the key from the ignition.
2. Within 5 seconds insert the second pre-programmed key and urn the ignition to "on" for at least one second but no more than 5 seconds (use the key symbol for this as well) then remove the second key.
3. within 10 seconds insert the new key in the ignition and turn the ignition to "on", if you are successful the red key symbol will illuminate then extinguish after about a second.

If you are not successful the red key symbol will flash repeatedly to indicate that you have inserted an invalid key. Remove the key, wait a minute and try it again, it took me a few times to get it perfect and I had done it before.
 
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LTC8K6

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Yeah, look that up. You should be able to reprogram the key at home. In my Altima, it has to be inserted into the no-battery key slot thing.



I doubt many cars need 2 working keys in order to program a 3rd key. The car should have all the information it needs.

To the OP: use google to see if you can reprogram the key yourself. However, you still need to take the blanks to the dealer to get them to cut it for you from their records. I would imagine they could program the keys for you at the same time without your car, but in case they charge more, just do it yourself at home afterwards.

IIRC any fairly new car will need 2 working keys to program a blank key. My 2008 Jeep is that way.
 

Jimzz

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Call some locksmith. Many have programmers.
I bought a key programmer when I bought my BiLs car. Plugs into the OBD2 port and can erase the keys in the memory and add as many as it will take.
 

yhelothar

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Call some locksmith. Many have programmers.
I bought a key programmer when I bought my BiLs car. Plugs into the OBD2 port and can erase the keys in the memory and add as many as it will take.
That doesn't sound too secure for auto manufacturers to make their key easily bypassable with a machine that plugs into the OBD2 port. :|
 

LTC8K6

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Call some locksmith. Many have programmers.
I bought a key programmer when I bought my BiLs car. Plugs into the OBD2 port and can erase the keys in the memory and add as many as it will take.

You need 1 or 2 working keys for that, too.

And if you mean one of those knockoff Chinese copies of an actual programmer, I wouldn't trust one.
 
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nerp

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Call some locksmith. Many have programmers.
I bought a key programmer when I bought my BiLs car. Plugs into the OBD2 port and can erase the keys in the memory and add as many as it will take.

This information upsets me. Too easy, too simple, can't be flawless. Who knows, though. What car is this?
 

Hellotalkie

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This information upsets me. Too easy, too simple, can't be flawless. Who knows, though. What car is this?

Would a locksmith know what the cut for the blade would be?

Also when I had my car shipped the shipper lost my primary key during the process so I had my spare.
 

exar333

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Did you get a 'valet key' with your car? Often you get an extra key that is partially useable, but is helpful in a pinch if you need a re-program.