Mazda RX-8

silverpig

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While the RX-8 will be all of those things, its redesigned rotary engine, reverse-opening rear doors and room for four adults make it far more


It's a rotary!!! Cool! :)
 

Imported

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Hope they'll come out with a version that seats two, has more torque, and a beefier suspension.. :D

I wonder how quick it is compared to the FD RX-7..
 

habib89

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dangit.. i can't wait for this car!! too bad i won't have the money to afford it.. but still.. finally mazda's bringing back the rotaries
 

Desslok

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While I applaud Mazda for brining back the rotary, I really do not like the 3rd door. ICK
 

BCYL

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The front really reminds me of the S2000... Esp in that first pic from the link...

I wonder how reliable this new rotary engine will be...
 

z0mb13

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I heard that u need to change the engine quite often for rotary engines (like every 50k miles maybe???)

is this true?

 

Kelvrick

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Maybe the success of teh RX-8 will make it easier to find a damn rotory mechanic.

<== monkey dance
 

Desslok

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Originally posted by: z0mb13
I heard that u need to change the engine quite often for rotary engines (like every 50k miles maybe???) is this true?

Not if you take care of them, I know guys running RX-7's with over a 100,000 on them.

 

z0mb13

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Originally posted by: Desslok
Originally posted by: z0mb13
I heard that u need to change the engine quite often for rotary engines (like every 50k miles maybe???) is this true?

Not if you take care of them, I know guys running RX-7's with over a 100,000 on them.

but the lifetime of rotary IS less than conventional engines... no????

 

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Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: Desslok
Originally posted by: z0mb13
I heard that u need to change the engine quite often for rotary engines (like every 50k miles maybe???) is this true?

Not if you take care of them, I know guys running RX-7's with over a 100,000 on them.

but the lifetime of rotary IS less than conventional engines... no????

Its not so much the engines but the apex seals.
A lot of stories about rotaries breaking down too soon are because when you add mods to the engine, you need to upgrade your injectors to keep up. the engine runs very lean compared to conventional engines.

 

ThisIsMatt

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Originally posted by: Desslok
While I applaud Mazda for brining back the rotary, I really do not like the 3rd door. ICK
Not if you take care of them, I know guys running RX-7's with over a 100,000 on them.
lol, 100k? Sad...

You guys can have the RX-8 for at least the first 5 years of production as far as I'm concerned. Being a guinea pig is not my idea of fun.

Looks ugly as well, ewww
 

ThisIsMatt

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Originally posted by: flood
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: Desslok
Originally posted by: z0mb13
I heard that u need to change the engine quite often for rotary engines (like every 50k miles maybe???) is this true?

Not if you take care of them, I know guys running RX-7's with over a 100,000 on them.

but the lifetime of rotary IS less than conventional engines... no????

Its not so much the engines but the apex seals.
A lot of stories about rotaries breaking down too soon are because when you add mods to the engine, you need to upgrade your injectors to keep up. the engine runs very lean compared to conventional engines.
Isn't that like saying "It's not so much the engines but the piston rings."

 

I heard that u need to change the engine quite often for rotary engines (like every 50k miles maybe???)


but the lifetime of rotary IS less than conventional engines... no????


Its not so much the engines but the apex seals.
A lot of stories about rotaries breaking down too soon are because when you add mods to the engine, you need to upgrade your injectors to keep up. the engine runs very lean compared to conventional engines.

Rotary engines can and do last just as long as conventional piston engines, the reason you sometimes see the early deaths of these engines is because the owners go past there designated red lines.
The Apex seal problem was solved long ago, modern rotaries are tough and reliable, having 1/10 fewer moving parts and with modern mettalurgy and CAD/CAM manufacturing, have become not only more fuel efficiant but much cleaner burning as well.

Read This if you want to understand the workings of a rotary engine.
This will give you the basics so you can understand more clearly the pluses and the minuses of the design.


 

SuperTool

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I would like to hear all the people who were bashing Nissan's use of multilink beam suspension comment on RX-8's use of it.
 

SuperTool

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Originally posted by: wellerdball
WHATS WRONG WITH THAT TYPE OF SUSPENSION?

EXACTLY!
But when Maxima had it, all these losers came out of the woodwork and were bashing Nissan for it left and right.
 

psteng19

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: wellerdball
WHATS WRONG WITH THAT TYPE OF SUSPENSION?

EXACTLY!
But when Maxima had it, all these losers came out of the woodwork and were bashing Nissan for it left and right.

*AHEM* NSF4 *AHEM*

 
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Autoweek does the RX-8:

The Playing's the Thing: You can't mistake Mazda's RX-8 for what it isn't.
Mazda is trying hard to spin its new rotary engine-powered RX-8 story, and we?ll have none of it. Neither should you: RX-8 is a sports car as Godzilla is a house pet.
Now that you know what RX-8 isn?t, here is what RX-8 is: a well-balanced, high-revving, nimble, four-door, sharp-nosed, four-seat sports grand touring vehicle that will make you smile from behind its wheel.


...You notice the throttle response immediately. Though this 247-horsepower rotary (at 8500 rpm) is the more potent of two engines headed to the United States, it doesn?t boast high torque with just 159 lb-ft at 5500. A less potent 210-hp model that peaks at 7200 revs only comes with a paddle-shift-actuated automatic transmission and it puts out 164 lb-ft at 5000.

 

NogginBoink

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Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: Desslok
Originally posted by: z0mb13
I heard that u need to change the engine quite often for rotary engines (like every 50k miles maybe???) is this true?

Not if you take care of them, I know guys running RX-7's with over a 100,000 on them.

but the lifetime of rotary IS less than conventional engines... no????

No.

Rotaries, in general, are far more reliable and can last far longer than piston engines. A two rotor engine has a total of THREE moving parts, and the motion is rotary motion as opposed to the oscillating motion in a piston engine. The things are virtually indestructible and don't have the catastrophic failure modes of piston engines.