Maybe the war on drugs could eventually work...

[dank69]

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Going back to one of my previous posts, I see it the same as not allowing someone to commit suicide. By your logic we shouldn't stop people trying to jump off bridges, just keep right on driving. After all, it's their life. Given all the negatives that come from cocaine addiction, I see anyone who uses it as mentally ill or idiotic. It's arguably a form of self-mutilation given the long-term consequences.

First of all, you are blowing the addictive properties of cocaine way out of proportion. Secondly, it is interesting that you draw the comparison to self mutilation. Do you think self mutilation should be against the law? Is self mutilation 'idiotic' in your opinion? Keep in mind that tatoos and piercings are forms of self mutilation. Thirdly, regarding your suicide analogy, I don't think it is accurate. If someone were trying to jump off a bridge, I would stop and try to talk them out of it, but I wouldn't fault someone who wouldn't. And at the end of the day, if someone really wants to end their own life, I believe it is their right to do so.

 

[irishScott]

First of all, you are blowing the addictive properties of cocaine way out of proportion. Secondly, it is interesting that you draw the comparison to self mutilation. Do you think self mutilation should be against the law? Is self mutilation 'idiotic' in your opinion? Keep in mind that tatoos and piercings are forms of self mutilation. Thirdly, regarding your suicide analogy, I don't think it is accurate. If someone were trying to jump off a bridge, I would stop and try to talk them out of it, but I wouldn't fault someone who wouldn't. And at the end of the day, if someone really wants to end their own life, I believe it is their right to do so.

I am? There's a reason the first dose is free.

http://www.emedicinehealth.com/cocaine_abuse/article_em.htm

Why cocaine becomes addictive: Research with cocaine has shown that all laboratory animals can become compulsive cocaine users. Animals will work more persistently at pressing a bar for cocaine than for any drug, including opiates. An addicted monkey pressed the bar 12,800 times until it got a single dose of cocaine. If the animal survives, it will return to the task of obtaining more cocaine.

The human response is similar to that of the laboratory animal. The cocaine-dependent human prefers it to all other activities and will use the drug until the user or the supply is exhausted. These persons will exhibit behavior entirely different from their previous lifestyle.
Cocaine-driven humans will compel themselves to perform unusual acts compared with theirformer standards of conduct. For example, a cocaine user may sell her child to obtain more cocaine. There are many stories of professionals, such as lawyers, physicians, bankers, and athletes, with daily habitscosting hundreds to thousands of dollars, with binges in the $20,000-$50,000 range. The result may be loss of job and profession, loss of family, bankruptcy, and death.

http://www.nida.nih.gov/infofacts/cocaine.html

How Does Cocaine Affect the Brain?

Cocaine is a strong central nervous system stimulant that increases levels of dopamine, a brain chemical (or neurotransmitter) associated with pleasure and movement, in the brain’s reward circuit. Certain brain cells, or neurons, use dopamine to communicate. Normally, dopamine is released by a neuron in response to a pleasurable signal (e.g., the smell of good food), and then recycled back into the cell that released it, thus shutting off the signal between neurons. Cocaine acts by preventing the dopamine from being recycled, causing excessive amounts of the neurotransmitter to build up, amplifying the message to and response of the receiving neuron, and ultimately disrupting normal communication. It is this excess of dopamine that is responsible for cocaine’s euphoric effects. With repeated use, cocaine can cause long-term changes in the brain’s reward system and in other brain systems as well, which may eventually lead to addiction. With repeated use, tolerance to the cocaine high also often develops. Many cocaine abusers report that they seek but fail to achieve as much pleasure as they did from their first exposure. Some users will increase their dose in an attempt to intensify and prolong the euphoria, but this can also increase the risk of adverse psychological or physiological effects.

Different methods of taking cocaine can produce different adverse effects. Regular intranasal use (snorting) of cocaine, for example, can lead to loss of the sense of smell; nosebleeds; problems with swallowing; hoarseness; and a chronically runny nose. Ingesting cocaine can cause severe bowel gangrene as a result of reduced blood flow. Injecting cocaine can bring about severe allergic reactions and increased risk for contracting HIV/AIDS and other blood-borne diseases. Binge-patterned cocaine use may lead to irritability, restlessness, and anxiety. Cocaine abusers can also experience severe paranoia—a temporary state of full-blown paranoid psychosis—in which they lose touch with reality and experience auditory hallucinations.

Regardless of the route or frequency of use, cocaine abusers can experience acute cardiovascular or cerebrovascular emergencies, such as a heart attack or stroke, which may cause sudden death. Cocaine-related deaths are often a result of cardiac arrest or seizure followed by respiratory arrest.

Tatoos and piercings are not self mutilation as the goal is not to inflict pain or irreparably damage the human body in any significant way.

Barring severe, irreversible medical diagnosis I don't see how anyone can rationally choose to end their own life. Likewise barring the very limited medical uses I don't see how anyone can choose to regularly use cocaine and not quit. If you go out of your way to prove you're not responsible enough to make your own decisions, expect to be treated as such and, should the system intervene, be thankful that someone else is at least trying to clean up your shit.

 

[bfdd]

lol, you're ridiculous. end game is death fool, that's everything that exists has an end. trying to say people are killing themselves by using cocaine is no different than saying people are killing themselves by breathing. you know cause breathing intakes oxygen which leads to certain types of aging, which obviously means leads to death. blah blah, no difference you just see one because you want slaves to some idea of society you have. i like playing in society, it's nice, but i think it's wrong to impose these kinds of restrictions of people if the only person they're hurting is themselves. you don't have to pay for it and i don't want to either. let them die.

 

[irishScott]

lol, you're ridiculous. end game is death fool, that's everything that exists has an end. trying to say people are killing themselves by using cocaine is no different than saying people are killing themselves by breathing. you know cause breathing intakes oxygen which leads to certain types of aging, which obviously means leads to death. blah blah, no difference you just see one because you want slaves to some idea of society you have. i like playing in society, it's nice, but i think it's wrong to impose these kinds of restrictions of people if the only person they're hurting is themselves. you don't have to pay for it and i don't want to either. let them die.

I want slaves? Sounds like you're high right now. What I want is a system that does a better job of diagnosing and treating mental disorders. I'd define cocaine addiction, among other types of severe self-destructive behavior, as a mental disorder.

I'd also say that if you get caught, you're either stupid, high, both (in all cases deserving of what's coming to you), or affecting someone else.