Maybe 9 year old girls shouldn't hold uzis after all.

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mikeford

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Why is it parents let kids do dangerous stuff instead of wrapping them in bubble wrap and storing in a cool dry place until 18?
 

JulesMaximus

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She hit, but Darwin missed.

I'd say there oughta be a law, but unless we're going to start gassing stupid people there's really only so much that can be done.

I have to wonder what went through that instructor's head, though, that made them think that would be a good idea.

9mm?
 

Carson Dyle

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Classic.

They won't let a kid under some height get on a ride at the amusement park, but someone will hand a 9-year-old an Uzi.
 

PliotronX

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halik

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Hmm, I find this statement probably lacks validity:



what is "something like this"? A child having a problem controlling a fully automatic weapon? Really, that's a rarity?

OK.

...I wonder how many instances of "something [exactly] like this" do lead to such tragedies. Maybe it is a rare occurrence because, I don't know, most people aren't dumbfuck enough to hand a loaded Uzi to an 8 year-old; because 100% of the time they do that, an accident happens.

Loony gun retards are loony. Next up: teaching 5 year old how to assemble explosives for demolition, landing a 747 full of people, defuse ww2 ordinance. There's nothing 5 year olds can't do!
 
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MongGrel

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She hit, but Darwin missed.

I'd say there oughta be a law, but unless we're going to start gassing stupid people there's really only so much that can be done.

I have to wonder what went through that instructor's head, though, that made them think that would be a good idea.
+1

I saw one video somewhere of some guy letting a young girl shoot a high powered rifle with a scope up to her eye with the butt of it over her shoulder.

That was like abuse, some people should just be on the Darwin list to begin with and not be allowed to have kids.

I have plenty of guns myself, but there is just plain stupidity, you know.
 

DrPizza

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I am really confused as to why you would give a loaded automatic weapon to an 8 year old, especially when you are in the process of training them on how to fucking use it!

It is people like this that give responsible adults a bad name!
Fixed that for you.
The only thing a kid under 10 should be shooting is a bolt action rifle that has 0% chance of losing control, one shot per load. Hell my daughter is almost 7 and I just got her a red ryder BB gun and I'm with her 100% of the time. There's no way in hell in a year I'm gonna hand her an uzi in a year to give a whirl. I wouldn't give her a pistol until she's at least 12 and shown very solid control and understanding of firearms. The shorter the gun the quicker shit goes bad.
This. There's absolutely nothing wrong with allowing a kid to learn to shoot a weapon. However, you don't give them an automatic. And personally, I wouldn't let them use a semi-automatic either. Further, you need to be careful with the caliber (or how much the rifle/gun kicks), keeping in mind basic conservation of momentum. I guarantee that if my kids, when little, attempted to hit a target shooting a 3" magnum deer slug or 3" turkey load in a 12 gauge, they'd hit the target, and there's absolutely no way to know which way the gun would be pointed after that shot. Must likely upward, with the child on the ground on his back, if he kept control of the gun.
 

Ruptga

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I shot dad's 30-06 a few times when I was in middle school, and the barrel would climb a good forty degrees, but I was experienced and it was a bolt action so there was no chance of accidental refire. The .243 worked much better for me since the recoil was less but the gun weighed almost as much. Automatic + light gun weight + noob is the absolute worst case scenario. An old heavy bolt-action .22 with a 10-round magazine is just about perfect for a responsible kid.
 

tortillasoup

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people keep saying the uzi was automatic, I'm pretty sure automatic weapons aren't legal unless grandfathered. Semi auto yes but not full auto.
 

jjsbasmt

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I'd love to comment about this - but I just can't figure out how to clean up my thoughts about the situation and put into words that would be suitable for posting, so I'll just hope that some lessons are learned from the horrible event.
 

jpeyton

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NRA member and big proponent of gun rights here...

The instructor was an idiot. This is natural selection at work.

Yes, there are semi-auto Uzi's available on the market, which are as safe to operate as any vanilla pistol. But this range advertises the fact that they offer NFA firearms for use, including automatic mini-Uzis and Uzis. An automatic Uzi requires quite of bit of effort to keep on target for seasoned firearms users. For a 9yo girl? Insane.
 
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Spungo

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What idiots all of them
Are you saying you don't give fully automatic weapons to elementary students?
I can understand why liberals want automatic weapons banned. If you freak out and hold the trigger down, a semi automatic weapon still only shoots 1 time.

people keep saying the uzi was automatic, I'm pretty sure automatic weapons aren't legal unless grandfathered. Semi auto yes but not full auto.
But then the article doesn't make sense. How do you lose control of a weapon that isn't automatic?
 

halik

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are you saying you don't give fully automatic weapons to elementary students?
I can understand why liberals want automatic weapons banned. If you freak out and hold the trigger down, a semi automatic weapon still only shoots 1 time.


But then the article doesn't make sense. how do you lose control of a weapon that isn't automatic?

5 YEAR OLD

fadsfas
 

DrDoug

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The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of morons and idiots. I'd say that I wondered what went through his head at the last moment but I already know the answer to that question.

I wonder if they billed the parents for the bullet?
 

waggy

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whaa? they gave a 9 yr old a fully automatic weapon? wtf.


I am all for teaching kids to shoot. But something like this is just idiotic.
 

Imp

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Wonder if they gave her a fully loaded magazine... I mean, it doesn't matter in this situation, but still.