May possibly get a new build soon

[kuba]

Since I'm starting to get into media, digital stuff. (photo/video editing)

CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103562
for a cpu, love my amd
was told Opteron 165, is there a huge difference between the Athlon X2 3800 and Opteron 165...I'm not an overclocker by any means
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103588

MOBOs
then this company EpOx, never heard of them, so im kinda hesitant about them, but definitely don't want ASUS (horrible experience with their customer/tech support, pretty much non existent)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813123236
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130484
MSI
was thinking maybe Gigabyte even.

video card, i was recommended this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130265

was thinking maybe a dual monitor setup, but not sure how stable those are to run.
considering nVidia this time around, unless the above eVga is a good choice.

comments/suggestions?
thanks guys
budget is about $1000

 

[Ricemarine]

Power supply?...

Uhh, X2 3800+ is fine.
As for motherboard, you can go with DFI, since their reputation is good (for overclockers), otherwise I'd get Epox anyways... Or, you could always get the 7800gt/evga mobo combo...

 

[kuba]

good call...not too familiar with what's good out there in terms of power supply.
my current pc, just used the one that came with the case, seems to have done its job fairly well.
but this time around, im advised to buy a good one...so...no idea what's "good" out there.
Thanks for the fast reply, was about to crash lol...now im gonna check newegg for PS', lol.

 

[kuba]

anyone got suggetions on psu's?
thanks

 

[ta8689]

There is a huge difference between the x23800 and the opteron 165. Overclockability. My 165 is running about 2.5 ghz, and many people have seen 2.7-2.9. And what are you talking about 100 dollars more??? its 30 more. And if I were you, id spend the extra 100 on a 7800 GT vid card.

 

[kuba]

corrected, not sure what i was thinking, but it was late when i typed this up.

 

[ta8689]

The Opteron is still going to be faster and more relaible with a mild overclock (you dont even have to change voltages, multipliers, etc.) The opterons are server cpus i believe. (of course home pcs like them too) Just take it up to maybe 2.2 Which is just 400 mhz and it will run great with no problems. With that kind of overclock i dont even think you would have to test for stability. Is a non-issue. Just something to think about.... more bang for your buck. Oh.. and the opterons have 2 MB L2 Cache and 1 ghz front side bus. Which is more than the x2. (one of those) you get more with opteron.

 

[kuba]

good to know, thanks.
Not too comfortable with over-clocking (yet?) but maybe if this one i dont have to test for stability, voltages and all that other mumbo jumbo you mentioned, maybe i'll do it.
I don't understand why only $30 difference, in this case it is a no brainer to get the Opteron.

 

[atybimf]

Personally, I'd go with the DFI Lanparty UT nF4 Ultra-D. It'll overclock great with the Opteron, and is very stable for me. But I would not recommend it to a noob - not sure how much pc experience you have.

 

[furballi]

MB is okay. Get the 144 Opty from Monarch for $140 and overclock it to at least 2300MHz.

 

[Ricemarine]

If he says he's not an overclocker, than don't push him towards the opteron 165. Maybe later when he feels more comfortable.

Video Card: eVGA 7800GT CO $350
CPU: AMD 64 X2 3800+ Retail $297
Motherboard: eVGA 133-K8-NF41 ATX Motherboard FREE ($20 AR If you buy before 2/28)
Ram: 2X1GB G.Skill 2.5-3-3-6 ram $178

Case: Antec SLK3000B or Centurion 5 by CoolerMaster
HDD: Any preferred that you decide.
DVD: Nec ND-3540 or ND-3550

Totals should be around your $1k range.

 

[atybimf]

Yeah, if you're not an overclocker, there's no reason to get an Opteron (cache factor aside)

 

[kuba]

Ricer, ATYBIMF, even if it's only a $30 difference, you still say, just go for the X2 3800?
I mean, if the Opteron has better cache, won't that factor alone be worth it then?

 

[ta8689]

Yeah, believe me, a mild overclock will push it over the x2. You will be happier if you get the opteron. Mild overclock, and bam, way better. Plus they stopped production of the opteron 165s and another opteron too.. dont remember which. So you have a little while to get one new, id say get it.

 

[Ricemarine]

Originally posted by: kuba
Ricer, ATYBIMF, even if it's only a $30 difference, you still say, just go for the X2 3800?
I mean, if the Opteron has better cache, won't that factor alone be worth it then?

Cause the X2's stock speed is 2.0 GHz, and the dude feels that he isn't ready for an overclock.

 

[ta8689]

200 mhz on an opteron is like nothing. You barely have to touch it to make it go at least that high. I say squeeze more performance out of your money.

 

[kuba]

Hmm, so what will be the follow up?
Or just take the next in line (in case I dont buy it right away)?

 

[kuba]

Not sure who you were exactly talking to ther, but, $30 difference, for something i can push later, is worth it, no?

 

[Ricemarine]

Originally posted by: kuba
Not sure who you were exactly talking to ther, but, $30 difference, for something i can push later, is worth it, no?

What he is implying is this.

Opteron 165 = 1.8 GHz stock speed, but has high overclockability. $275 AR right now
AMD 64 X2 3800+ = 2.0 GHz stock speed, not as high overclockability, but can still scale at least 400 MHz, $297 right now.

What everyone here is trying to tell you, is to overclock so you can have a higher bang for your buck. But if you don't think you'd like overclocking, you can easily stick with the 3800+. No one is saying nothing is wrong with the 3800+, but more people like the challenge of a very high overclock, which is why people are telling you to do so later on.

 

[kuba]

I understood that part....
I actually meant the reply to you, in your post "Cause the X2's stock speed is 2.0 GHz, and the dude feels that he isn't ready for an overclock. "
Because you were quoting me and saying "the dude feels he isnt ready for an overclock"...you were quoting me and replying to me and calling me dude, it confused me a bit

What's AR btw?

 

[Effect]

Originally posted by: kuba
I understood that part....
I actually meant the reply to you, in your post "Cause the X2's stock speed is 2.0 GHz, and the dude feels that he isn't ready for an overclock. "
Because you were quoting me and saying "the dude feels he isnt ready for an overclock"...you were quoting me and replying to me and calling me dude, it confused me a bit

What's AR btw?

AR means After Rebate, if i'm correct. IMO, if you want the best bang for buck, my suggestion would be: If you plan on O/C'ing, the opty hands down. If you're not so comfortable overclocking, the x2 3800+. However, i wouldn't completely dismiss the idea of o/cing, you might want to give it a shot somewhere down the track.

 

[fire400]

PSU over 50 bucks with dual 12v rails will cover your systems power needs.