Maximum PC benches G5 2.0, P4EE, AMD Athlon 64 FX-51

Eug · Dec 5, 2003

#1- P4EE
#2- G5
#3- Athlon 64 FX-51

Link

The G5 gets destroyed on games, but wins on multimedia benches. So what else is new?

Vonkhan · Dec 5, 2003

P4EE r00lz in g4m3z ... therefore, I shall buy a P4EE

MDE · Dec 5, 2003

Originally posted by: Vonkhan
P4EE r00lz in g4m3z ... therefore, I shall buy a P4EE

The P4 only wins one game decisively (Q3A, which doesn't matter much IMO), therefore, it doesn't r00l in g4m3z, making it unl337.

Eug · Dec 5, 2003

What I don't understand is the abysmal performance of the G5 in UT2003. OK in Quake III, 400 fps with the G5 and 500 fps with the P4EE... that I can understand. But 80 vs. 334 fps in UT2003?

JaydenChris · Dec 5, 2003

I enjoy Maximum PC....can't wait to get the next issue!

*Did anyone see the "binary clock" in the recent issue? How do you read it?

suklee · Dec 5, 2003

Did I read that right? It's comparing Dual G5s to the single P4EE and FX51?

Vonkhan · Dec 5, 2003

Q3A, which doesn't matter much IMO

No QuakeCon for u, heretic!

klah · Dec 5, 2003

If anyone does get the magazine, please post the components used in each system.

LordMagnusKain · Dec 5, 2003

Originally posted by: Eug
What I don't understand is the abysmal performance of the G5 in UT2003. OK in Quake III, 400 fps with the G5 and 500 fps with the P4EE... that I can understand. But 80 vs. 334 fps in UT2003?

it's less a proc issue and more a chip-set problem.

Acanthus · Dec 5, 2003

Originally posted by: Kai920
Did I read that right? It's comparing Dual G5s to the single P4EE and FX51?

yup. So you could actually afford a P4EE machine for the same price... hell prolly dual P4EEs lmao.

l3ored · Dec 5, 2003

p4EE: $1k at newegg: WOOOOWWW, too much

bunnyfubbles · Dec 5, 2003

who would EVER get a Mac primarily with gaming in mind... lol

suklee · Dec 5, 2003

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
who would EVER get a Mac primarily with gaming in mind... lol

Not sure which G5 they used, but check this -- it comes with a 5200 Ultra! W00T!

Dual 1.8GHz PowerPC G5
900MHz frontside bus/processor
512K L2 cache/processor
512MB DDR400 128-bit SDRAM
Expandable to 8GB SDRAM
160GB Serial ATA
SuperDrive
Three PCI-X Slots
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
64MB DDR video memory
56K internal modem

$2,499

(Dual G5 2.0GHz gets the Radeon 9600 Pro, but also an additional $500 price tag)

imported_Mike · Dec 5, 2003

Originally posted by: klah
If anyone does get the magazine, please post the components used in each system.

FX-51:

2.2GHz FX-51
Asus SK8N
ATI 9800 Pro
1 GB of registered DDR 400 in dual channel
XP Pro
120GB PATA WD 8MB Cache

G5:

Dual 1GHz
mobo is not mentioned(sent directly from apple, not available in stores)
ATI 9800 Pro
1GB of DDR 400 in dual channel
X 10.2
160GB SATA Seagate 7200.7 8MB Cache

P4EE:

3.2GHz P4EE
Asus P4C800-E
ATI 9800 Pro
1GB of DDR 400 in dual channel
XP Pro
120GB PATA WD 8MB Cache

mooojojojo · Dec 5, 2003

Originally posted by: CheapArse
G5:

Dual 1GHz
mobo is not mentioned(sent directly from apple, not available in stores)
ATI 9800 Pro
1GB of DDR 400 in dual channel
X 10.2
160GB SATA Seagate 7200.7 8MB Cache

You surely mean Dual 2GHz, right? I don't think there's a 1GHz G5

mosco · Dec 5, 2003

Originally posted by: JaydenChris
I enjoy Maximum PC....can't wait to get the next issue!

*Did anyone see the "binary clock" in the recent issue? How do you read it?

Ironically, i think MaximumPC is made on a mac.

I think i read that in MacAddict atleast(same company).

Eug · Dec 5, 2003

hell prolly dual P4EEs lmao.

? Not likely, since P4EEs don't support dual configs. OTOH, Apple doesn't sell single-2.0s. Anyways, it should prove interesting come Jan. Prescotts should be out by then (or Feb anyway), as will the Dual G5 2.5s.

X 10.2

I wonder why they're using that. Dunno about the games they used, but X.3 is faster overall.

Ironically, i think MaximumPC is made on a mac.

I guess it's that multimedia thing again with Macs.

Dual 1.8GHz PowerPC G5
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
$2,499

(Dual G5 2.0GHz gets the Radeon 9600 Pro, but also an additional $500 price tag)

The Dual G5 1.8 with 9600 Pro costs $50 more than with the FX 5200 Ultra. They spec the 5200 for the types who never play games - ie. Multimedia design types.

Dug · Dec 5, 2003

The G5 gets destroyed on games, but wins on multimedia benches

Considering its dual proc, and it won in Quicktime (Apple) one set of Photoshop filters, it shouldn't be any suprise. But I hardly find that it won in anything because there's no way to do an even benchmark across both machines.

The fact that the Intel won in All Filters and the Mac won in MacAddict Filters shows this.

Eug · Dec 5, 2003

Originally posted by: Dug

The G5 gets destroyed on games, but wins on multimedia benches

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Considering its dual proc, and it won in Quicktime (Apple) one set of Photoshop filters, it shouldn't be any suprise. But I hardly find that it won in anything because there's no way to do an even benchmark across both machines.

The fact that the Intel won in All Filters and the Mac won in MacAddict Filters shows this.

FWIW, the MacAddict filter AFAIK just includes commonly used filters/actions (mainly because a lot of the ones in the overall benchmark are useless).

Anyways, the G5 wins came with Photoshop MacAddict filters, Bibble, QT, and MPEG2 encoding at high-quality MPEG2 encoding.

The P4EE 3.2 wins at UT2003, Jedi Outcast, Quake III, Indesign Export, Photoshop All Filters, and high-speed MPEG2 encoding.

Sunner · Dec 5, 2003

Originally posted by: Eug
What I don't understand is the abysmal performance of the G5 in UT2003. OK in Quake III, 400 fps with the G5 and 500 fps with the P4EE... that I can understand. But 80 vs. 334 fps in UT2003?

Given the history of the Unreal/UT engine's performance, Im not one bit surprised.

InlineFive · Dec 5, 2003

Originally posted by: mooojojojo

Originally posted by: CheapArse
G5:

Dual 1GHz
mobo is not mentioned(sent directly from apple, not available in stores)
ATI 9800 Pro
1GB of DDR 400 in dual channel
X 10.2
160GB SATA Seagate 7200.7 8MB Cache

Click to expand...

You surely mean Dual 2GHz, right? I don't think there's a 1GHz G5

G5 models are:

Single-1.6GHz
Single-1.8Ghz
Dual-1.8Ghz
Dual-2.0GHz

SilverRyu · Dec 5, 2003

considering its nearly $300 less.. the fx is the winner in my eyes

zodder · Dec 5, 2003

Very good point.

dexvx · Dec 5, 2003

Originally posted by: SilverRyu
considering its nearly $300 less.. the fx is the winner in my eyes

Considering the overall system cost is the same, it doesnt matter.

SilverRyu · Dec 5, 2003

Originally posted by: dexvx

Originally posted by: SilverRyu
considering its nearly $300 less.. the fx is the winner in my eyes

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Considering the overall system cost is the same, it doesnt matter.

how do you figure?

Athlon FX 51 = $733
Asus SK8N = $204

P4EE 3.2 = $1020
IC7-G MAX3 = $197

the remainder of the parts are constant for either system.

i see ~$300 difference

Maximum PC benches G5 2.0, P4EE, AMD Athlon 64 FX-51

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