Max TDP for Barcelona and Agena FX = 95W

[NoobyDoo]

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Now as Fudzilla.com acts like their silent megaphone they tell the public that 95W will be the maximum TDP for Barcelona and Agena FX. That is quite low for a real quad-core CPU and sounds very promising in terms of overclocking achievements.

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AMD's upcoming Agena FX and Barcelona native quad core CPU's will consume less than 95 Watts. We all expected more from this native quad core on 65 nanometre but I guess AMD pulled some kind of miracle.
We are talking about the desktop part but Barcelona should not be much different. A source close to AMD also claims that despite the power efficiency the CPU should be 40 percent faster but it is not clear from what.
It looks that a single core from this device would need less than 24 Watts and at some crazy speeds this is more than good result.

 

[GFORCE100]

Originally posted by: NoobyDoo
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Now as Fudzilla.com acts like their silent megaphone they tell the public that 95W will be the maximum TDP for Barcelona and Agena FX. That is quite low for a real quad-core CPU and sounds very promising in terms of overclocking achievements.

Fudzilla Link

AMD's upcoming Agena FX and Barcelona native quad core CPU's will consume less than 95 Watts. We all expected more from this native quad core on 65 nanometre but I guess AMD pulled some kind of miracle.
We are talking about the desktop part but Barcelona should not be much different. A source close to AMD also claims that despite the power efficiency the CPU should be 40 percent faster but it is not clear from what.
It looks that a single core from this device would need less than 24 Watts and at some crazy speeds this is more than good result.

In order to get anywhere near 95W TDP from a quad core made using 65nm it needs to be low frequency such as 2GHz max. Now if AMD can make a 2GHz chip that performs as well as a 2.66GHz Intel chip (higher TDP) then very well but I highly doubt it since Intel's manufacturing technologies are most advaned than AMD's and if Intel cannot do quad core at 95W TDP then neither can AMD, unless it's a very low clocked part as stated above.

 

[tatteredpotato]

Originally posted by: GFORCE100

Originally posted by: NoobyDoo
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Now as Fudzilla.com acts like their silent megaphone they tell the public that 95W will be the maximum TDP for Barcelona and Agena FX. That is quite low for a real quad-core CPU and sounds very promising in terms of overclocking achievements.

Fudzilla Link

AMD's upcoming Agena FX and Barcelona native quad core CPU's will consume less than 95 Watts. We all expected more from this native quad core on 65 nanometre but I guess AMD pulled some kind of miracle.
We are talking about the desktop part but Barcelona should not be much different. A source close to AMD also claims that despite the power efficiency the CPU should be 40 percent faster but it is not clear from what.
It looks that a single core from this device would need less than 24 Watts and at some crazy speeds this is more than good result.

In order to get anywhere near 95W TDP from a quad core made using 65nm it needs to be low frequency such as 2GHz max. Now if AMD can make a 2GHz chip that performs as well as a 2.66GHz Intel chip (higher TDP) then very well but I highly doubt it since Intel's manufacturing technologies are most advaned than AMD's and if Intel cannot do quad core at 95W TDP then neither can AMD, unless it's a very low clocked part as stated above.

Actually I'd say AMD typically has better manufacturing tech, it's just that they have trouble switching fabs over to the newer processes because taking one fab offline severely limits their capacity. I think it's possible, but shouldn't that mean that there will be the top of the line 120 watt part still?

 

[GFORCE100]

Originally posted by: BlameCanada

Originally posted by: GFORCE100

Originally posted by: NoobyDoo
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Now as Fudzilla.com acts like their silent megaphone they tell the public that 95W will be the maximum TDP for Barcelona and Agena FX. That is quite low for a real quad-core CPU and sounds very promising in terms of overclocking achievements.

Fudzilla Link

AMD's upcoming Agena FX and Barcelona native quad core CPU's will consume less than 95 Watts. We all expected more from this native quad core on 65 nanometre but I guess AMD pulled some kind of miracle.
We are talking about the desktop part but Barcelona should not be much different. A source close to AMD also claims that despite the power efficiency the CPU should be 40 percent faster but it is not clear from what.
It looks that a single core from this device would need less than 24 Watts and at some crazy speeds this is more than good result.

In order to get anywhere near 95W TDP from a quad core made using 65nm it needs to be low frequency such as 2GHz max. Now if AMD can make a 2GHz chip that performs as well as a 2.66GHz Intel chip (higher TDP) then very well but I highly doubt it since Intel's manufacturing technologies are most advaned than AMD's and if Intel cannot do quad core at 95W TDP then neither can AMD, unless it's a very low clocked part as stated above.

Actually I'd say AMD typically has better manufacturing tech, it's just that they have trouble switching fabs over to the newer processes because taking one fab offline severely limits their capacity. I think it's possible, but shouldn't that mean that there will be the top of the line 120 watt part still?

It all depends what frequency levels they want to sell at or need to sell at to compete with Intel's offerings. A TDP of 120W is doable today, it's at 45nm where one can realistically expect a quad core 95W TDP CPU of decent frequency. Nothing raises TDP as high as clock speed and Vcore but to lower Vcore the die must be physically smaller hence requires an increase in nanotechnology effort. It's a reason why notebook CPU's are always clocked less than their desktop counterparts, save for a few 3.33GHz Pentium 4 variants around 2004 but that was still lower than 3.6/3.8GHz for the desktop.

 

[NoobyDoo]

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In terms of actual product releases, the first incarnation of AMD's new architecture will be found in the next-generation Opteron due out at the middle of this year. AMD will initially launch at speeds ranging from 2.1GHz to 2.3GHz, but by the end of this year you can expect higher clock speeds. On the desktop, AMD's Agena core will be a Barcelona equivalent shipping at between 2.7 - 2.9GHz. Kuma will be a dual-core variant of Agena shipping in the 2.0 - 2.9GHz range.