Matter, cosmos, atom particle etc

[kravmaga]

Wondering if anyone has thought of this before. I'm sure they have but has anyone ever related the way virii replicate or for example the way humans mate and create a mass of 100+lb matter (as in another human) from two microscopic cells to the way planets and galaxies might have originally been formed? It seems to me if animal matter can form out of tiny microscopic particles then perhaps other things in the universe might as well. Isn't science still unsure of how inner atom particles are formed as well? What if they give birth to one another in some way instead of just randomly form?

 

[Woodchuck2000]

At the risk of heckling your semantics, humans do not 'create a mass of 100+lb matter'. The matter merely re-arranges itself to a state of lower entropy through the input of large amounts of energy.

Scientists have some fairly detailed theories as to how the universe formed and this ain't one of them.

 

[kravmaga]

I know it sounds a bit foolish to say the universe gave birth to itself in the same way humans reproduce. I guess I should have worded my thoughts a bit differently. This lower entropy rearanging itself through the input of larger amounts of energy is kind of like what happens on an atomic level no? With atom particles rearanging themselves and seemingly springing from nowhere in a way (yet undetermined by science). I will admit I don't really know anything of quantum physics or string theories, atomic science etc. I'm mearly curious about they way they work and trying to apply my own plebian perspective on the subject.

 

[DrPizza]

For what it's worth, the 100 pound human being created gains its 100 pounds from food, from oxygen that's breathed in, from water it drinks,. . .

If the mother weighs 150 pounds at conception and does not eat or drink anything until the baby is born, Well, at the time the mother dies from dehydration, she will never have exceeded 150 pounds. If somehow you could support her life without giving her any water or food, when the baby is born, the sum of the weight of the mother and baby will be 150 pounds.

 

[PowerEngineer]

Originally posted by: kravmaga
I know it sounds a bit foolish to say the universe gave birth to itself in the same way humans reproduce. I guess I should have worded my thoughts a bit differently. This lower entropy rearanging itself through the input of larger amounts of energy is kind of like what happens on an atomic level no? With atom particles rearanging themselves and seemingly springing from nowhere in a way (yet undetermined by science). I will admit I don't really know anything of quantum physics or string theories, atomic science etc. I'm mearly curious about they way they work and trying to apply my own plebian perspective on the subject.

Since there's a tendancy for people to extrapolate familiar processes they understand into explanations for what's unfamiliar, I'm guessing that the possibility of matter replication has crossed more than a few minds. I gather that what you're postulating is that some interaction between matter brings additional matter into existance.

If, by applying your perspective, you mean to test your idea as a scientific postulate, then you need to collect evidence that supports (and contradicts) it. You can look around for evidence in nature, and you can create evidence through experimentation. You can then decide if it has any basis in reality.

I'm not aware of any evidence that matter replication takes place. For instance, we don't see planets or stars increasing their masses (other than through continuing accumulation of objects through gravity). Conservation of mass has also proved to be a reliable "law" of physics for our worldly experience with mass (conservartion = no growth).

Off the top of my head, I can't think of any natural processes that create mass; fission and fusion both go the other way, converting mass into energy. Maybe when a star goes supernova? I think that forming elements beyond iron must take energy to accomplish that is converted to mass(?) Anyway, the conditions required are quite extreme and energy being converted to mass is far different from matter somehow replicating itself directly.

Let us know what you find. :thumbsup:

 

[kravmaga]

haha now you've convinced me to write some crack pot theorist novel for the art bell listener types.

 

[Xyo II]

matter comes from energy. they dont vibrate against each other and ejaculate electrons. oh wait...................