Matt Taibbi : Tea & Crackers - Tea Party Article hits the nail on the head!

NoStateofMind

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Holy crap! Couldn't have said it better myself! Matt breaks down the Tea Party and clearly explains why its a failure. I am in total agreement with his opinion. Although I wish I could say that his side of things were BS, but that would require some sort of integrity from candidates/voters. Some of the article:

But after lengthy study of the phenomenon, I've concluded that the whole miserable narrative boils down to one stark fact: They're full of shit. All of them. At the voter level, the Tea Party is a movement that purports to be furious about government spending — only the reality is that the vast majority of its members are former Bush supporters who yawned through two terms of record deficits and spent the past two electoral cycles frothing not about spending but about John Kerry's medals and Barack Obama's Sixties associations. The average Tea Partier is sincerely against government spending — with the exception of the money spent on them. In fact, their lack of embarrassment when it comes to collecting government largesse is key to understanding what this movement is all about — and nowhere do we see that dynamic as clearly as here in Kentucky, where Rand Paul is barreling toward the Senate with the aid of conservative icons like Palin.

Related Get more political coverage from Rolling Stone.

Early in his campaign, Dr. Paul, the son of the uncompromising libertarian hero Ron Paul, denounced Medicare as "socialized medicine." But this spring, when confronted with the idea of reducing Medicare payments to doctors like himself — half of his patients are on Medicare — he balked. This candidate, a man ostensibly so against government power in all its forms that he wants to gut the Americans With Disabilities Act and abolish the departments of Education and Energy, was unwilling to reduce his own government compensation, for a very logical reason. "Physicians," he said, "should be allowed to make a comfortable living."

Those of us who might have expected Paul's purist followers to abandon him in droves have been disappointed; Paul is now the clear favorite to win in November. Ha, ha, you thought we actually gave a shit about spending, joke's on you. That's because the Tea Party doesn't really care about issues — it's about something deep down and psychological, something that can't be answered by political compromise or fundamental changes in policy. At root, the Tea Party is nothing more than a them-versus-us thing. They know who they are, and they know who we are ("radical leftists" is the term they prefer), and they're coming for us on Election Day, no matter what we do — and, it would seem, no matter what their own leaders like Rand Paul do.

In the Tea Party narrative, victory at the polls means a new American revolution, one that will "take our country back" from everyone they disapprove of. But what they don't realize is, there's a catch: This is America, and we have an entrenched oligarchical system in place that insulates us all from any meaningful political change. The Tea Party today is being pitched in the media as this great threat to the GOP; in reality, the Tea Party is the GOP. What few elements of the movement aren't yet under the control of the Republican Party soon will be, and even if a few genuine Tea Party candidates sneak through, it's only a matter of time before the uprising as a whole gets castrated, just like every grass-roots movement does in this country. Its leaders will be bought off and sucked into the two-party bureaucracy, where its platform will be whittled down until the only things left are those that the GOP's campaign contributors want anyway: top-bracket tax breaks, free trade and financial deregulation.

The rest of it — the sweeping cuts to federal spending, the clampdown on bailouts, the rollback of Roe v. Wade — will die on the vine as one Tea Party leader after another gets seduced by the Republican Party and retrained for the revolutionary cause of voting down taxes for Goldman Sachs executives. It's all on display here in Kentucky, the unofficial capital of the Tea Party movement, where, ha, ha, the joke turns out to be on them: Rand Paul, their hero, is a fake.

Read the rest here http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/210904
 

umbrella39

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Didn't take long for a TP fluffer to show up... As usual, most thinking people can see right through the TP bullshit the OP is no exception.
 

glenn1

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Didn't take long for a TP fluffer to show up... As usual, most thinking people can see right through the TP bullshit the OP is no exception.

Who the fuck cares? All this carping about the Tea Party just tells me that the left is trying to distract attention from the huge revulsion of the public at the policies they've pursued and don't think they can win on their own merits.
 

LegendKiller

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Who the fuck cares? All this carping about the Tea Party just tells me that the left is trying to distract attention from the huge revulsion of the public at the policies they've pursued and don't think they can win on their own merits.

So let me guess, you failed to read the article?

Here, since you need help, I'll summarize it for you.

TeaBaggers are a hypocritical joke of a party.
 

glenn1

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So let me guess, you failed to read the article?

Here, since you need help, I'll summarize it for you.

TeaBaggers are a hypocritical joke of a party.
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And yet they are going to win most of their races in November - evidently in spite of being a "hypocritical joke" the voters think the Democrats are even worse.
 

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I pity those in the Tea Party for moment had something good going. I think that last semblance of intelligence was lost when those gun junkies went to D.C. like they were John Wayne. Then they got dicked. Dick Army came in and you just knew the Tea Party had been hijacked. Pretty clever for Republicans.
 

LegendKiller

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And yet they are going to win most of their races in November - evidently in spite of being a "hypocritical joke" the voters think the Democrats are even worse.

Yeah, well, Beck and Limbaugh took a page from Hitler's Mein Kampf and created a big lie about how much different they are and how much better lower taxes, higher spending, and Ronald Reagan was.

Too bad 100% of the data doesn't support one fucking thing they say.


Even worse, too bad 100% of the teabaggers are too stupid/ignorant to understand the data.
 

Craig234

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I've only read the excerpt so far, but he did 'nail it'.

I've made similar comments, such as ones to this:

That's because the Tea Party doesn't really care about issues — it's about something deep down and psychological, something that can't be answered by political compromise or fundamental changes in policy. At root, the Tea Party is nothing more than a them-versus-us thing. They know who they are, and they know who we are ("radical leftists" is the term they prefer), and they're coming for us on Election Day, no matter what we do...

In 2000, I said, what are the Republicans going to do when their promises for a great economy and prosperity are exposed as lies to get them elect when they can no longer say anything because it's just words and their actual policies show their real loyalties are to the rich, and voters are fed up?

And I expected that the party that was so unified that George W. Bush was the one 'real' Republican, the most pure they'd had, would soften on him and say he wasn't the 'real' Republican after all - and that they would look for a way to have 'new' Republicans who wanted to be elected calling the 'old' ones not 'pure'.

Could they fool voters again?

We're about to see, and it's looking like they can.

The 'tea party', backed by interests who fund anything they think they might be able to get some control of for political support, exposes the really ignorant masses of the US.

I haven't read the article yet to see if Taibbi notes it, but one factor is media coverage, hyping the group - as someone noted, we have a large Progressive Caucus already in Congress, with a large group of Americans behind them, and there's the Black Caucus, but you don't hear a tenth the media covering those groups as the tea party.
 

StageLeft

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Based on the excerpt I agree he does nail it. Matt T has among the best political/economic commentaries. They are interesting but also straight forward and appear to be quite accurate.
 

Craig234

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Boy, one main point I've been making is that Republican politics - and corporatist Democratic politics - are about one thing, policies to enrich the rich, the rest is fluff.

...where its platform will be whittled down until the only things left are those that the GOP's campaign contributors want anyway: top-bracket tax breaks, free trade and financial deregulation.

The rest of it — the sweeping cuts to federal spending, the clampdown on bailouts, the rollback of Roe v. Wade — will die on the vine as one Tea Party leader after another gets seduced by the Republican Party and retrained for the revolutionary cause of voting down taxes for Goldman Sachs executives.
 

StageLeft

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ROFLROFL This is a beautiful thing. I laughed out loud hard on it:

"We're shaking up the good ol' boys," Palin chortles, to the best applause her aging crowd can muster. She then issues an oft-repeated warning (her speeches are usually a tired succession of half-coherent one-liners dumped on ravenous audiences like chum to sharks)
 

Jhhnn

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Taibbi's right, unfortunately. The only rational republicans are the leaders, who basically mesmerize their base with emotional bullshit to enrich themselves. It's not politics, it's religion, the American version of Jihad, TV evangelism in a slightly different venue- a real money maker.
 

yllus

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Man, I came out of that article with a newfound, intense respect for your Republican Party. Even as down and out as they were in 2008 they've rallied incredibly well with slim pickings to work with. It's just too bad that in America power and politics is a game and not something where honour and truth matters.
 

umbrella39

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Who the fuck cares? All this fluffing for the Tea Party just tells me that the right is trying to distract attention from the huge revulsion of the public at the policies they've pursued and don't think they can win on their own merits.

Fixed for you in two easy words.
 

Genx87

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So let me guess, you failed to read the article?

Here, since you need help, I'll summarize it for you.

TeaBaggers are a hypocritical joke of a party.

You can put democrat and republican in that last sentence and it will be true. You born yesterday? Welcome to the world of politics.
 

PokerGuy

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i love watching the signs of left wing desperation in the morning. Flailing helplessly against the Tea Party and the people who are about to throw them out of office, not realizing that their smears and desperation only make the tea party stronger. :thumbsup:

Matt Taibbi / Rolling Stone :D:D:D
 

StageLeft

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i love watching the signs of left wing desperation in the morning. Flailing helplessly against the Tea Party and the people who are about to throw them out of office, not realizing that their smears and desperation only make the tea party stronger. :thumbsup:

Matt Taibbi / Rolling Stone :D:D:D
Did you read the article and do you think it's a fair portrayal? although many of us can be happy about democrats being taken down a peg it's not like the alternative is any better at all.
 

Mursilis

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Who the fuck cares? All this carping about the Tea Party just tells me that the left is trying to distract attention from the huge revulsion of the public at the policies they've pursued and don't think they can win on their own merits.

Amen.
I've said it before, but it bears repeating - the GOP almost never wins an election based on its own merit, but rather because the Dems screw up enough to make the GOP look like the lesser evil. What's playing out right now is Clinton's first two years of his first term all over again, with the Tea Party playing the role of the Reform Party. When you make Newt Gringrich look like the better option, you've really, really screwed up.
 

PokerGuy

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Did you read the article and do you think it's a fair portrayal? although many of us can be happy about democrats being taken down a peg it's not like the alternative is any better at all.

No, it's not a fair portrayal at all, it's the usual left wing drivel and smearing attempt, trying to discredit the tea party movement.

The alternative isn't much better, but it's the lesser of the evils.