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Paratus

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(Make ATOT Great Again - for @Zeze )

Want to see a single atom?
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That tiny point of light in the center is a single strontium ion being excited by a laser

Enhance!
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That’s the light from a single excited atom.

https://www.newscientist.com/articl...ible-to-the-naked-eye-in-this-stunning-photo/

An image of a single atom of the metal strontium suspended in electric fields has won the 2018 Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council science photography competition.

David Nadlinger‘s photo, Single Atom In An Ion Trap, was captured through the window of a vacuum chamber in an Oxford University laboratory, using an ordinary digital camera on a long exposure shot.

Two metal electrodes, two millimetres apart, held the strontium almost motionless in a strong electric field as it was illuminated with a blue-violet-coloured laser.

“The idea of being able to see a single atom with the naked eye had struck me as a wonderfully direct and visceral bridge between the minuscule quantum world and our macroscopic reality,” Nadlinger said.
 

destrekor

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As for sciencey stuff: hell, I'm having a hard enough time imagining that the gap between the two electrodes is actually only 2mm! That means this was unlikely something that a naked eye was going to see, even with it getting all excited.

wait... which are the electrodes, those that look like plates, or the pointed rods?
 

Paratus

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As for sciencey stuff: hell, I'm having a hard enough time imagining that the gap between the two electrodes is actually only 2mm! That means this was unlikely something that a naked eye was going to see, even with it getting all excited.

wait... which are the electrodes, those that look like plates, or the pointed rods?

Considering a strontium atom is about 0.2nm in diameter it’s amazing they could get it to generate enough light to see it with a camera.

Normally to see a single atom you’re using a scanning tunneling microscope.
 

destrekor

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Considering a strontium atom is about 0.2nm in diameter it’s amazing they could get it to generate enough light to see it with a camera.

Normally to see a single atom you’re using a scanning tunneling microscope.

That's likely due to a long shutter speed and incredible magnification.
 

Charmonium

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The molecular biology behind why you hit a plateau when you try to lose weight.

AMP-activated protein kinase (AMPK) is one of the body's master regulators. It is an enzyme found in most cells and influences how a cell processes energy. When AMPK is activated, a cell will burn fat as its energy source, but the new research revealed that TBK1 can shut down the activity of AMPK, resulting in fat storage, and ultimately, obesity.

The research also revealed that when AMPK is activated through fasting it triggers the release of TBK1, which seems to act as a protective mechanism for the body to hold fat stores in the instance of famine. Of course, it is exactly this process which frustrates dieters when they are struggling to lose weight.
https://newatlas.com/enzyme-body-burn-fat/53328/
 

Charmonium

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Precursor to NAD+ may improve and possibly prevent Alzheimers.

The brain’s usual DNA repair activity is impaired in Alzheimer’s disease, leading to inflammation and dysfunction. A compound that the brain needs to regulate DNA repair and other key signaling pathways is known as nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide (NAD+). Because NAD+ declines with age, scientists have wondered whether boosting the level of NAD+ could help aging brain cells (neurons) to function better. One way to increase the cellular level is by giving an NAD+ precursor compound, such as nicotinamide riboside (NR). NR is a form of vitamin B3.

An international research team led by Dr. Vilhelm A. Bohr at NIH’s National Institute on Aging (NIA) set out to test whether NR supplements could normalize NAD+ levels in the brains of mice and counteract deficits in thinking and memory. The study was published online on February 5, 2018, in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The research team used findings from their previous studies with human cadaver brain tissue to develop a new strain of mice. These mice had the main features of human Alzheimer’s disease, such as the abnormal buildup of the proteins tau and amyloid-beta. The research team added the NR supplement to the mice’s drinking water for three months.

The team found that the NR-treated mice had less DNA damage, lower levels of neuron damage and death, increased production of new neurons, and lower brain inflammation than control mice. Mice who received NR had reduced tau in their brains, too, but amyloid-beta levels were unchanged. The NR-treated mice performed better than control mice on many learning and memory tests, such as a water maze. In addition, NR-treated mice had better muscle strength and endurance than controls.

The research team also tested human cells from people with and without Alzheimer’s disease. As in the mouse studies, NR decreased DNA damage in the cells from people with Alzheimer’s.
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih...ound-repairs-features-alzheimers-disease-mice
 

DigDog

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SCIENCE: that is not an atom.

first off, you need to understand that when we say small, we really mean small. That thing there is not small. If the distance between the two pins is 2mm, you could fit several billion atoms on that dot.

The dot you see is light reflecting off of one atom, during its vibration in a certain area. It's basically the equivalent of those photos of highways with the car lights making trails.

What they did here, is project a laser on the atom, which then shines as it bounces around. The light you see there is reflected off the surface of the atom. This is in fact how you see ALL matter, however the exposition time here is very, very long, and the size of that ball is nowhere near the actual size of an atom.

(there's lifeforms smaller that that dot, ffs)

/science out
 
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Paratus

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SCIENCE: that is not an atom.

first off, you need to understand that when we say small, we really mean small. That thing there is not small. If the distance between the two pins is 2mm, you could fit several billion atoms on that dot.

The dot you see is light reflecting off of one atom, during its vibration in a certain area. It's basically the equivalent of those photos of highways with the car lights making trails.

What they did here, is project a laser on the atom, which then shines as it bounces around. The light you see there is reflected off the surface of the atom. This is in fact how you see ALL matter, however the exposition time here is very, very long, and the size of that ball is nowhere near the actual size of an atom.

(there's lifeforms smaller that that dot, ffs)

/science out

Well jeez, first you say we aren’t seeing an atom. Then you say what we are seeing is light reflected from a single atom.

So when I stated it’s a picture showing “ the light of a single excited atom” you were apparently compelled to disagree?

I can’t figure out why since you basically stated the same thing.


Finally you say we see all matter as light reflected off that matter.

Although I will point out that while you are correct in that we see most things via light reflecting off a surface in this case that’s not what’s happening. The photons from the laser are not reflecting off the atom, they are being absorbed and re-radiated which is the same effect we see when we heat an object to the point it glows in visible light.

I also thought my comment about the atom having a radius of 0.2nm got it across that the atom itself was small.

;)
 
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DigDog

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Well jeez,

So when I stated it’s a picture showing “ the light of a single excited atom” you were apparently compelled to disagree?
;)

no. i just couldn't be bothered to read the thread. i had a 74.6% chance nobody explained it right, and i took a gamble.
 

Darwin333

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no. i just couldn't be bothered to read the thread. i had a 74.6% chance nobody explained it right, and i took a gamble.

Your odds were way off, especially since this is supposed to be a science thread and Pratreus said relatively few words in the OP but he did say, and I quote:

"That’s the light from a single excited atom."

So backfire :p:p:p
 

DigDog

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this photo has been making the rounds, and i've seen it everywhere this morning, i.e last night for you yanks. The OP - the guy who took the photo - said "that yonder, there's one atom", which is .. misleading. He even added "and those pins are 2mm apart. 2mm is HUGE compared to the size of an atom. The nucleus of an atom is also nowhere near as large as the orbit which it covers. It's as if i showed you a ball as big as the earth's orbit and then said "there, that's the moon".

so, what the photo should say is "that is the entirety of the orbit of a single atom of, what is it, strontium, illuminated by a laser". Somewhere in that orbit, is a spec of matter so tiny, if you were to see it, everything else in the picture, orbit included, would be out of the picture.

you want to see the photo of an atom? here:
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THAT is an actual electron-microscope photo of a real atom.