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Match this sub with a Amplifier (CC)
- Thread starter WHSLacrossekid
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TrueBlueLS
Platinum Member
Can I ask why you're buying from Circut City?
WHSLacrossekid
Diamond Member
it's a birthday present
chiwawa626
Lifer
If it has to be from CC, u know hes gettin a hookup hah 🙂
WHSLacrossekid
Diamond Member
already have the sub. amp is a b-day present from my cousin that works there, and he wants to get it from there
43st
Diamond Member
You always want your amp output to be rated 10-20% over your speaker. So you want a single channel amp that puts out 1100 to 1200 Watts peak. Good luck.
Under power the speaker and you'll probably ruin the speaker. For poor-man's bass it'll certainly thump with a proper amp. 🙂
Under power the speaker and you'll probably ruin the speaker. For poor-man's bass it'll certainly thump with a proper amp. 🙂
TrueBlueLS
Platinum Member
True, you can run any amp. Did you also know that not having sufficient power will damage the sub too?
WHSLacrossekid... I'd recommend an amp that has at least 500 watts RMS to match the sub. I do believe the peak wattage for that sub before it'll go is 1,000 watts. I'd say something in the 500-750 RMS range for an amp will fit it well. This is what I'd recommend.
YOUR an idiot too!!
Having less power will NEVER damage a sub. a 250 watt amp will NOT blow a 1000 watt speaker.
So, by your dumbazz logic I suppose that if I dont listen to my radio as loud as it can go, if I turn it down at all I might damage my speakers cause I'm giving them LESS power?!
Where do you guys come up with this stuff.
actually, u are very wrong, running too little power will damage ur sub, a lot of subs blow out because not enuf power is given to them, you want to stay very close to the RMS range, if you think i'm wrong, go ask any car stereo person. if you dont' believe me, go run a 250 watt amp to a 1000 watt speakers, given that its really 1000 watts and not those generic cheapo ones that are like max 1000 watts and 200 rms.
Oh dear God. Please, PLEASE, leave the audio to me and Glen mmmmkay?
But since you wont, explain to me how if I give a speaker LESS then its rated power will i damage it? Explain it to me. How can this happen? I'll gladly let you hook up ANY available car amp made to my speaker.
Too little power wont damage a speaker. How can it?!
And FYI, most car audio salesmen dont know jack.....Thats why they tell people that stupid myth that too little power is bad.
if youre turning your system down, then it's still playing within its limit. however, on an uncapable amp, when you want to listen to it LOUD, you'd have to push the amp past its limits, and it'll send distorted waves/signals to the speaker/subwoofer... thereby damaging it
with a capable amplifier, you can turn your system up to as much as your speaker/sub can handle... while the amp will still be sending "clean" signals. and ofcourse if you push it then the speaker/sub will clip and damage also
well, thats what i hear, anyways
And your right. Its called clipping. Clipping the amp causes it to send up to twice its RMS power. Thus, your 250 watts amp on 300 subs suddenly becomes a 600 watt amp on 300 watt subs.
Underpowering them doesnt hurt them. If you ran the 250 watt amp at 250 watts it'll be fine. Its when you dont understand the limits of your equipment, you push it too hard cuasing it to clip. This sends WAY more power to the subs and Pow, they blow. The overdriven 250 watt will blow the subs as easily as a 500 watt amp running in spec.
Only 2 things kill a subwoofer. Too much power or too much heat. You exceed the p[ower ratings from ANY amp, you'll risk losing the sub. Doesnt matter if the amp is running clipped or not, the speaker itself cant tell the difference between distortion or a clean signal, its simply an audio signal to the speaker. But, the speaker CAN tell the difference between 250 watts and 500 watts.
The reason they say buy a bigger amp is by doing to its assumed you'll not try to push it so hard and risk clipping it. But ultimately, either amp can ruin the subs. Unless you put a 100 watt amp on 500 watts subs, then you can drive it to clipping all day long and the sub wont care. 100 watts or 200 watts, its still well within the spec of the sub.
TrueBlueLS
Platinum Member
You can keep your insults because they don't hurt me. If WHSLacrossekid buys some amp that is underrated for the sub, what do you think is going to happen? More than likely, if he's having an amped subwoofer in his vehicle, it's going to be turned up. Now what happens when the amp can't supply enough power and starts to distort? You do understand distortion eats away at speakers, right? Is that my dumbass logic? How about you get a clue before you try insulting someone's intelligence.
You wann atalk dumbass logic eh?
Explain the
Not giving your speakers enough power damages them.
Explain THAT, then we'll talk about dumbass.
As for him buying a smaller amp, if he understands his equipment and knows how to run it it will work JUST fine.
And no, distortion doesnt hurt a speaker. Eats away at it? Lets go back to the dumbass logic. Explain THAT as well please. How does a speaker know the difference between a distorted signal and a clean signal? So, my guitar amp on full distortion should have blown the speaker like...2 years ago now by my count right?
And I wouldnt *normally* assualt someones intelligence, but when someone says "If you give your speaker LESS power it will blow!" I tend to wonder at what level their intelligence is at to begin with....
Explain the
Not giving your speakers enough power damages them.
Explain THAT, then we'll talk about dumbass.
As for him buying a smaller amp, if he understands his equipment and knows how to run it it will work JUST fine.
And no, distortion doesnt hurt a speaker. Eats away at it? Lets go back to the dumbass logic. Explain THAT as well please. How does a speaker know the difference between a distorted signal and a clean signal? So, my guitar amp on full distortion should have blown the speaker like...2 years ago now by my count right?
And I wouldnt *normally* assualt someones intelligence, but when someone says "If you give your speaker LESS power it will blow!" I tend to wonder at what level their intelligence is at to begin with....
handoverfist
Golden Member
Yea distortion eats my azz hairs also
Maybe you should apply for a job at CC... from my experiences, you would fit right in
Shockwave is right. Heat and overexcursion are the only ways to blow a speaker. Distortion??? Speakers are passive. They do not differentiate between signal and noise.
virtuamike
Diamond Member
You'd get by fine on this one:
Kenwood 400Wx1
But I'd trust the MTX TrueBlueLS recommended, I'd be more trusting of an amp that's at least rated to run 2 ohm stable.
Personally, I'd take the $250 or whatever your friend can get it at and go by a JBL 1200.1, feed 600W into Polk.
Kenwood 400Wx1
But I'd trust the MTX TrueBlueLS recommended, I'd be more trusting of an amp that's at least rated to run 2 ohm stable.
Personally, I'd take the $250 or whatever your friend can get it at and go by a JBL 1200.1, feed 600W into Polk.
TrueBlueLS
Platinum Member
Did you understand "sufficient power" from what I said? Let me think about that one... thinking... thinking... I know you didn't understand. Suffficient power is to be able to have a clean signal from the amp at any level thus having no distortion. Let me ask you this, do your speakers sound the same way after a proper breaking in process as they do a year from that time period? If you answered yes, you need to take a look into car audio again. Over time from the cone resonating, it will slowly wear. Distortion helps speed up the wearing process of the speaker.
How does a speaker know the difference between a clean signal and one that's distorted? It doesn't. It just reproduces the electrical signal from the amp to the voice coil(s) into vibrations (also known as sound... if you couldn't figure that out). If it was made to recognize a distorted from a clean signal, we wouldn't have too much of a problem.
I laugh at the fact that you mention the guitar amp. Do you know what they did in the past before there were companies like BOSS and Digitech that made effects pedals? *Jeopardy theme* They first started to just turn up the amp as loud as they could. The clipping from that led to distortion of the sound. After that was found out, they used to take razor blades and would actually cut into the cones of the speakers to allow more distortion for their guitars. You could probably guess the life expectancy of these amps weren't long. Why hasn't "your guitar distortion" blown the speaker of your guitar amp yet? You're familiar with the preamp section of your amp, right? That's made to be driven to the edge and back again. So the signal goes through your preamp (humor me and tell me if you know what state your amp is), effects loop (if your amp has one), and then to amp that actually sends out a "clean" (the proper amount of power) signal to your speaker.
Thanks again for the insults, but I won't need to use those on you.
Sufficient power? Ok, so now we're going to talk about sufficient power? What in the name of 9 Hells does that have to do with blowing a speaker. Overpowering is overpowering, be it from clipping or from a larger amp. So, if I put a 1000 watt amp on my 500 watt sub it'll be fine, but a 300 watt amp will blow it?
Man, I dunno how you do audio, but it aint like the rest of the world.
i will concede. Distortion does wear out speakers. Just as fast as any other audio signal. Not faster, not slower.
Man, I dunno how you do audio, but it aint like the rest of the world.
i will concede. Distortion does wear out speakers. Just as fast as any other audio signal. Not faster, not slower.
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