Masters Comprehensive Exams - Who screwed up?

SarcasticDwarf

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First: Sorry, I can't post the question itself per exam rules and I don't want to risk anything else. I will try to make it make as much sense as possible.


I am finishing up my masters and taking my comps this semester which involves writing two papers on two different questions. We have two weeks to complete these (due tomorrow) and can do them at any point during this period.

One of the two questions I answered went something like this:

...websites are designed using different kinds of X. Describe at least three similarities and differences between the structures of X....The question then says something like "these similarities and differences include 1,2,3,4, and 5.


The problem with this horribly written question (the question is more comparing apples to oranges but with the assumption that both are oranges) was that examples 1-4 were really about the differences in the IMPLEMENTATION and ORGANIZATIONS that use X. So I wrote my answer as best as I could around why X is implemented, how it is expressed differently, etc. Come to find out sometime in the past week (and at least a few days after the question was posted) a clarification was posted to the exam message board (in a really buried spot...NOT in the announcements with major notices about other questions) that indicates that our answer should ONLY be about the differences between the structures of X, meaning that four of the five examples included were completely and utterly wrong.

I am rather at a loss at this point. It is completely impossible to rewrite the response at this point. The exam is graded by the faculty, and my concern is that since I basically answered the wrong thing, I will fail. What should I do at this point? The only idea I had was to send an e-mail tomorrow (after I have submitted) expressing my concerns and send it to both the exam administrator and the dean of the program.
 

theflyingpig

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You have already done what you should do. You have followed the path of correctness. I congratulate you.
 

se7en

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I would take some SS's of the buried clarification first off in case they get "moved" magically. Next I would go the email route and see where that gets you not all that sure though. But yes get some proof now showing where the reply was posted and how deep it was in the thread.

Thats all I got
 

dbk

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Well, they could be like, "We posted a clarification on this questions to the message board. It was your responsibility to read it".

Is the message board used frequently? I know when I was in school, any type of clarifications were emailed out. Didn't really have any message boards - could be due to being a business major. I think the comp sci people had message boards.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: se7en
I would take some SS's of the buried clarification first off in case they get "moved" magically. Next I would go the email route and see where that gets you not all that sure though. But yes get some proof now showing where the reply was posted and how deep it was in the thread.

Thats all I got

That is part of what confused me. They actually e-mailed out one clarification (flagged as important) on a question I did not answer. A note that the paragraph from a textbook referenced in another question would not be scanned and posted was posted to the front page of the D2L class board....so they were clearly using other communication methods. Granted, it is our responsibility to read through everything and stay updated, but I (mistakenly) believed that a significant clarification would have been better communicated to us. This one was only visible by logging into the course, going into the content tab, and then opening the "Responses to student questions" file which was updated periodically.
 

dbk

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Why can't you re-answer the question? Maybe explain your situation and resubmit?
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: dbk
Why can't you re-answer the question? Maybe explain your situation and resubmit?

It is the comprehensive exams for my masters, there is absolutely ZERO flexibility. Answers MUST be in my 11AM Central tomorrow, absolutely no exceptions. It is a pass/fail (you must pass both questions). If you fail you can ask them to double check, but that is it. Exams are offered in March and September of each year, so if I failed I would not graduate (and quite possibly be in a LOT of trouble with my job) and would have to wait until September.

My thought is that by e-mailing the administration I can get them to direct the faculty graders to grade on the answer given, not the answer asked for.
 

Babbles

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Wow . . . that sucks balls. Have you dropped an email to your adviser about this? Have you talked to your adviser about your comps at all?
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: Babbles
Wow . . . that sucks balls. Have you dropped an email to your adviser about this? Have you talked to your adviser about your comps at all?

It would do no good. The administration in my program SUCKS. They are all nice people, but really do not care at all about the students. I was in the student organization up until this year (when, incidentally, my adviser who is also the organization adviser did not support my membership). They very much take the perspective of "you are a grad student, you must do everything yourself." This is fine in general, but they take it to extremes. For example, they were wanting to make HUGE changes to the format of the comps and implemented them this semester. They NEVER once notified any students until the final decision had been made. Heck, over 75% of the students are online, and they have the second largest online program in the country, but the only way to get many of the forms needed is to call, find out you need the form, and have them snail mail them.

My hope is that in e-mailing them they will recognize that what they did could constitute a breach of university exam policies and scare them into not being complete idiots.
 

Chiropteran

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: dbk
Why can't you re-answer the question? Maybe explain your situation and resubmit?

It is the comprehensive exams for my masters, there is absolutely ZERO flexibility. Answers MUST be in my 11AM Central tomorrow, absolutely no exceptions.

It's 4:20pm now. Doesn't that mean you have 19 more hours to answer the question correctly?
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: dbk
Why can't you re-answer the question? Maybe explain your situation and resubmit?

It is the comprehensive exams for my masters, there is absolutely ZERO flexibility. Answers MUST be in my 11AM Central tomorrow, absolutely no exceptions.

It's 4:20pm now. Doesn't that mean you have 19 more hours to answer the question correctly?

Yes, but I still have to finish answering the second question I am working on and ALSO get another paper done for the class I am taking this semester. Really, the question is so badly worded and the question is so ridiculous (on a topic really not covered in the program and one more on a phd level) that I think I have done the best I can anyway.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: theflyingpig
You have already done what you should do. You have followed the path of correctness. I congratulate you.

um....huh?
Theflyingpig is one of those people who posts "FIRST" elsewhere. That'd get him banned here, so he posts something longer, but either trollish, or just nonsense.

It's an upgrade from his previous standard answer:


oh




 

mugs

Lifer
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Your question makes my head hurt. So uh... go talk to whoever you need to talk to, explain what happened politely, and maintain a stance of dominance. Their goal is to verify that you know what you're supposed to know before you graduate. If your answer to the question adequately demonstrates that, there's no reason for them to fail you.
 

DrawninwarD

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: theflyingpig
You have already done what you should do. You have followed the path of correctness. I congratulate you.

um....huh?
Theflyingpig is one of those people who posts "FIRST" elsewhere. That'd get him banned here, so he posts something longer, but either trollish, or just nonsense.

It's an upgrade from his previous standard answer:


oh

Oh! You have followed the path of correctness. I congratulate you.