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Massive Explosion in Beirut Lebanon

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H T C

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Amazing amount of damage.
WOW: it's a lot worse than i imagined it would be.

If what was being said is true and that area has a lot of residents, than it will be a miracle if the death toll doesn't end up crossing 1K.
 

Paratus

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WOW: it's a lot worse than i imagined it would be.

If what was being said is true and that area has a lot of residents, than it will be a miracle if the death toll doesn't end up crossing 1K.
You know seeing this angle it occurs to me in that stack of videos I linked to on the first page, there’s one from the flat top building attached to the silos across the street. :oops:
 

H T C

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You know seeing this angle it occurs to me in that stack of videos I linked to on the first page, there’s one from the flat top building attached to the silos across the street. :oops:
About that:

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Dunno if it's because of my location (Portugal) but i can't see them. Any chance of a repost?
 

woolfe9998

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2,750 tons of ammonium nitrate stored for 6 years is the culprit. By my calculation that’s around 1.2 kilotons. Correct me if I’m wrong.

Explosive yields are given in tons of TNT, meaning you can't translate tons of ammonium nitrate directly into an explosive yield without applying an equivalence modifier. According to this, 2750 tons of a-n is equivalent to 1800 tons of TNT, or 1.8 kilotons. Still quite a large yield.
 

VRAMdemon

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Just another mouth hemorrhage from Herr DumpsterFire.


Remember when presidents used to choose their words carefully? Because they were important and carried diplomatic weight? I miss those days.

Israel has got to be pissed at him for talking out his ass. It could literally start a war.
 
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Explosive yields are given in tons of TNT, meaning you can't translate tons of ammonium nitrate directly into an explosive yield without applying an equivalence modifier. According to this, 2750 tons of a-n is equivalent to 1800 tons of TNT, or 1.8 kilotons. Still quite a large yield.
Explosive yields are relative to how many kg of TNT would be required. With ammonium nitrate there is an RE Factor of 0.42. so 2.38 kg per 1 kg of TNT required. There was approx 2.5 million kgs of ammonium nitrate in that building by reports. that would translate to `1 kiloton. just slightly above. Not sure what the 1800 is based off of unless there's another relative effectiveness number out there. I'm using the US Army RE factor.
 

woolfe9998

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Explosive yields are relative to how many kg of TNT would be required. With ammonium nitrate there is an RE Factor of 0.42. so 2.38 kg per 1 kg of TNT required. There was approx 2.5 million kgs of ammonium nitrate in that building by reports. that would translate to `1 kiloton. just slightly above. Not sure what the 1800 is based off of unless there's another relative effectiveness number out there. I'm using the US Army RE factor.
Yeah, googled it and that checks out. I too am not sure where the higher ratio comes from in that article I posted.
 

FaaR

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Amazing amount of damage.
The entire building which housed the ammonium nitrate is gone entirely, and all of the ground the building stood on is also gone.

Jeeessshhh.... I've never seen anything quite like this before I think.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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The entire building which housed the ammonium nitrate is gone entirely, and all of the ground the building stood on is also gone.

Jeeessshhh.... I've never seen anything quite like this before I think.
I checked the 2015 China explosions for comparison, because those were pretty damn awful. It was two explosions and the larger of the two was 800 tons of ammonium nitrate. So this one is a lot worse as a matter of explosive yield than those two combined. However, casualty estimates between the two are pretty similar.


So far the death toll in Beirut is 135 but still mounting.
 

HomerJS

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Just another mouth hemorrhage from Herr DumpsterFire.


Remember when presidents used to choose their words carefully? Because they were important and carried diplomatic weight? I miss those days.

Israel has got to be pissed at him for talking out his ass. It could literally start a war.
But we have deplorable Trump dick suckers here who constantly tell us it doesn't matter what Trump says
 

Number1

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This is a movie of a wedding as the explosion happened. SCARY! Be ready for the noise.

 

interchange

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Just another mouth hemorrhage from Herr DumpsterFire.


Remember when presidents used to choose their words carefully? Because they were important and carried diplomatic weight? I miss those days.

Israel has got to be pissed at him for talking out his ass. It could literally start a war.
The only reason Trump hasn't started a war just by running his mouth is because everyone already knows to expect whatever he says is a bunch of bullshit.
 

pmv

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Just another mouth hemorrhage from Herr DumpsterFire.


Remember when presidents used to choose their words carefully? Because they were important and carried diplomatic weight? I miss those days.

Israel has got to be pissed at him for talking out his ass. It could literally start a war.
It's amazing how he manages to get things so consistently wrong, even when there's no political benefit in it for him, or obvious reason for bias. Presumably, owing to his being somewhat old and confused, he got the wrong end of the stick in whatever briefing he got from those 'generals' and was too full of his own importance to ask for clarification of any of it before sounding off.
 

FaaR

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How on earth did they managed to put out this video? @ that distance ... DAMN ...
Yeah, how could they not get pulverized by the shockwave at almost point-blank range?

Or, hell, even survive at all. I've looked at the aftermath pics, it seems like the building that person stood on collapsed completely. They could have fallen to their death in the collapse or been crushed by rubble. It's amazing.
 
Jan 25, 2011
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Yeah, how could they not get pulverized by the shockwave at almost point-blank range?

Or, hell, even survive at all. I've looked at the aftermath pics, it seems like the building that person stood on collapsed completely. They could have fallen to their death in the collapse or been crushed by rubble. It's amazing.
I think that was one of the earlier smaller explosions at the fireworks factory. It looks like it was before things really got cooking. I’m guessing they got the fudge out of there before the big one went off.
 

FaaR

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I’m guessing they got the fudge out of there before the big one went off.
Ah, right. Yeah, that makes sense! I've not seen any specifically labelled video material of the alleged initial smaller explosion(s). Maybe because nobody else with a camera was close enough? :)
 

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