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Massive Challice kickstarter

While I watched the video, the ticker went up by almost $10k.

Then I put my $20 in. I suspect they should be working on their stretch goals doc, if it's not already done 😛
 
They made MILLIONS more from their last Kickstarter than they claimed to have needed. And what do we have... a minute-long trailer and a picture of a hipster lumberjack. Now they need MORE money? How about using some of the leftovers from the last one?

Absolutely ridiculous. This is the reason why I will never donate to a Kickstarter project, ever.
 
I need to see some game play before pledging. The only game I felt comfortable pledging to without even a thought was Project Eternity.
 
AstroManLuca said:
They made MILLIONS more from their last Kickstarter than they claimed to have needed. And what do we have... a minute-long trailer and a picture of a hipster lumberjack. Now they need MORE money? How about using some of the leftovers from the last one?

Absolutely ridiculous. This is the reason why I will never donate to a Kickstarter project, ever.
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Patronage is not about getting a specific work of art done, it is about keeping the artist(s) working on art instead of looking for where their next meal is coming from.

Red Storm said:
I need to see some game play before pledging. The only game I felt comfortable pledging to without even a thought was Project Eternity.
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But, I agree with this too. We need to see some of the finished work if they wish to keep our patronage. We need proof they can handle making one really good game before we entrust them with 2 or 3 concurrent games.
 
AstroManLuca said:
They made MILLIONS more from their last Kickstarter than they claimed to have needed. And what do we have... a minute-long trailer and a picture of a hipster lumberjack. Now they need MORE money? How about using some of the leftovers from the last one?

Absolutely ridiculous. This is the reason why I will never donate to a Kickstarter project, ever.
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Actually, using money donated for one game for a different one would be a violation of the trust of the donors, if not the rules.
 
Craig234 said:
Actually, using money donated for one game for a different one would be a violation of the trust of the donors, if not the rules.
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So you really think they're going to make sure that Broken Age costs exactly $3.3 million to make, no more no less?

They're a company, they have operating costs. It's not like they just shovel money into a machine until a game pops out. They made an assload of money from their last Kickstarter, 8x more than they claimed they needed. You can bet that'll go into all sorts of things not directly related to their first game.
 
AstroManLuca said:
So you really think they're going to make sure that Broken Age costs exactly $3.3 million to make, no more no less?

They're a company, they have operating costs. It's not like they just shovel money into a machine until a game pops out. They made an assload of money from their last Kickstarter, 8x more than they claimed they needed. You can bet that'll go into all sorts of things not directly related to their first game.
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That's how business generally works, but the kickstarter model raises more issues around their using the money for whatever they want.

It's not black and white, because the people who donate are getting whatever the benefit offers in exchange, so it seems like a gray area.

I'm not sure what the kickstarter rules say.

It's also a gray area with things like stretch goals - when you see 'for another $100,000 we'll add a fifth playable race' - where it seems that won't cost them nearly $100,000.

But it does sort of tie the donations to the game development budget.
 
The game sounds interesting. Take Crusader Kings. Add a Game of Thrones style storyline and world. Then add turn based combat. Sounds good. I may drop $20 on it. I'll watch it for a while first though.
 
AstroManLuca said:
So you really think they're going to make sure that Broken Age costs exactly $3.3 million to make, no more no less?

They're a company, they have operating costs. It's not like they just shovel money into a machine until a game pops out. They made an assload of money from their last Kickstarter, 8x more than they claimed they needed. You can bet that'll go into all sorts of things not directly related to their first game.
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Actually it's sort of the other way around. Sure they made more than they asked for, but that just meant they could broaden the scope of the design, which they did. Now they're actually estimating they're over budget on their design and working on reducing the scope (again) on Broken Age, plus funnelling money from their other sources into it (Like profits from Brutal Legend PC). So no, they don't have extra money to throw behind another game. Games are expensive to make, surprise surprise.

I backed Broken Age, and it's already been more than worth it for all the fascinating behind the scenes making-of content, let alone the game itself.
I've been thinking about backing Massive Chalice, I can't say that HD versions of publicly released videos (Or the rest of the $50 tier) are worth $30 more than the game alone. I would've liked to see a price point between $20 and $50 really.
 
AstroManLuca said:
They made MILLIONS more from their last Kickstarter than they claimed to have needed. And what do we have... a minute-long trailer and a picture of a hipster lumberjack. Now they need MORE money? How about using some of the leftovers from the last one?

Absolutely ridiculous. This is the reason why I will never donate to a Kickstarter project, ever.
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You should watch their video on the OP's link to the kickstarter page. It opens with DF making fun of DF for the very thing you are complaining about.
 
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