Mass. SWAT teams claim they’re private companies and don’t have to tell you anything

Thebobo

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As part of the latest ACLU report:
War Comes Home: The Excessive Militarization of American Police - Report

This is one excerpt from the report. PDF link to download report Pretty scary stuff. I for one don't ever want to see contractors doing police work. The alleged BlackHawk incident in New Orleans was bad enough.

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From The Raw Story

After the ACLU sent open records requests as part of its investigative report on police militarization, SWAT teams in Massachusetts claimed they were exempt because they were private corporations.

Some SWAT teams in the state operate as law enforcement councils, or LECs, which are funded by several police departments and overseen by an executive board largely made up of local police chiefs.

Member police departments pay annual membership dues to the LECs, which share technology and oversee crime scene investigators or other specialists.

Some of these LECs have also incorporated 501(c)(3) organizations, which they say exempts them from open records requests.

“Let’s be clear,” wrote Radley Balko for The Washington Post. “These agencies oversee police activities. They employ cops who carry guns, wear badges, collect paychecks provided by taxpayers and have the power to detain, arrest, injure, and kill. They operate SWAT teams, which conduct raids on private residences. And yet they say that because they’ve incorporated, they’re immune to Massachusetts open records laws. The state’s residents aren’t permitted to know how often the SWAT teams are used, what they’re used for, what sort of training they get or who they’re primarily used against.”

F that!

From the ACLU link above.

All across the country, heavily armed SWAT teams are raiding people’s homes in the middle of the night, often just to search for drugs. It should enrage us that people have needlessly died during these raids, that pets have been shot, and that homes have been ravaged.

Our neighborhoods are not warzones, and police officers should not be treating us like wartime enemies. Any yet, every year, billions of dollars’ worth of military equipment flows from the federal government to state and local police departments. Departments use these wartime weapons in everyday policing, especially to fight the wasteful and failed drug war, which has unfairly targeted people of color.

As our new report makes clear, it’s time for American police to remember that they are supposed to protect and serve our communities, not wage war on the people who live in them

Amen!

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lxskllr

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So they're mercenaries. Maybe irregular combatants, or terrorists if you prefer...
 

Kadarin

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"Public servants" who clearly don't want to be accountable to the public, yet they have the legal authority to shoot you.
 

Zebo

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Then take away those municipal pensions and lower property taxes. I'm guessing they'd change their tune about not being public employees then.
 

Oldgamer

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This was posted in the "Official Police Misconduct thread"..

Edit:; Nope I was wrong.. that was one I was going to post, but I got distracted..lol

Anyway they are trying to avoid the FOIA requests claiming they are a private corporate entity. That would effectively make what they do illegal then. They can't have it both ways. This one will bite them in the butt, just watch.
 
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Oldgamer

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Seriously this is like in the movies we have watched where the Big Corporations run the world, own the Government and own the Military police. Look at the Boston Bombing, they literally quarantined off the whole city, and forced people out of their homes at gun point in full Military gear while doing their searches, and threatened citizens that if they were out of their homes and not inside they would be subject to being arrested. All that for one kid bomber who in the end was found by some guy who went out to have a smoke and found the kid wounded lying in his boat.

As I posted in the "official police misconduct thread" the over militarization of police in the US is moving at an alarming rate. Everyone needs to wake the hell up and start protesting this crap. Get your emails, phone calls, and letters out to your elected representatives and demand that they stop this.
 

Oldgamer

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Our police departments today:

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It has been brought to our attention that some of you civilians have the quaint notion that Law Enforcement is about protecting civilians.

Nonetheless, if you look at the facts as presented by the ACLU:
62 percent of the SWAT raids surveyed were to conduct searches for drugs.
In at least 36 percent of the SWAT raids studies, no contraband of any kind was found. The report notes that due to incomplete police reports on these raids this figure could be as high as 65 percent.
65 percent of SWAT deployments resulted in some sort of forced entry into a private home, by way of a battering ram, boot, or some sort of explosive device. In over half those raids, the police failed to find any sort of weapon, the presence of which was cited as the reason for the violent tactics.
The fact is that SWAT Teams are soldiers in the war on drugs.

And in war, civilians aren't protected but controlled lest they become collateral damage.

LOL

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bradley

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I guess this is like the Federal Reserve not being part of the government, but a private entity. Not

The flipside would be the US is a corporation, and corporations are people. Whatever benefits them most.
 

Zebo

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that crossed my mind as well. they would be trespassing and breaking/entering, which should provide plenty of grounds for self defense, one would think.

Good luck with that. They come is fast and many using room clearing techniques candle power blazing and armored up. While you're groggy eyed blinded and in a t-shirt.

Dead men tell no tales.

Best would be sue them in Federal court as a private army acting under color of law they are claiming they are. This wont last.
 
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Harabec

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Man, your country seems less and less like "Land of the Free" every day, and more like "Land of the Oppressed".

I should add that the Israeli police has been kept weak for years, I'm guessing actively by politicians. Although there are many calls for stronger police to control organized crime and respond to events, I'm not sure it would actually benefit our society.
We have a way of copying the worst things in the US and SWAT teams who think they're above the law seem to fit that.
 
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WelshBloke

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So if they are employed by private companies doesn't that mean that you can sue the individual employees now?
 

Genx87

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Armed mercenaries on our streets? Time to lock them up indefinitely without trial as enemy combatants!
 

rudder

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Fine by me. Here in Tennessee if the popo screws up and hurts you the award is capped at $250,000. A private company? Well if they screw up they better be prepared to pay.
 

Oldgamer

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Fine by me. Here in Tennessee if the popo screws up and hurts you the award is capped at $250,000. A private company? Well if they screw up they better be prepared to pay.


I think Texas has a cap also, unless they do a civil suit against an individual cop who is not immune to the civil suit.
 

Newell Steamer

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Aw - they think they are a corporation!!

Silly SWAT team, you are costing money, not making money!! Come back when you reach jerb creator status.