Originally posted by: foghorn67
Mass Effect is more of a gateway drug for deeper RPG's. Still one of the better games from 2007.
Originally posted by: CKDragon
I'd like to go ahead and recommend Mass Effect unconditionally, but I haven't played Lost Odyssey. What RPGs have you liked in the past?
Lost Odyssey is from the Square Enix/Final Fantasy mold while Mass Effect is from the Baldur's Gate/Knights of the Old Republic mold.
Given the choice, I'd probably replay Mass Effect for the 5th time before playing most other games. 😛
Originally posted by: Modeps
I have not played Lost Odyssey, but I absolutely ADORE Mass Effect. I truly cannot stand tons of cutscenes or un-interactive, unspoken dialog which many jRPGs seem to like (Lost Odyssey, from what I've read, also has tons of cutscenes and text to read). There was a point in my life I didn't mind the jRPG style, but now with my limited recreation time, I just want to PLAY my games, not watch them.
Still, I've heard Lost Odyssey is one of the better RPGs out for any system right now. It really depends on what you're looking for.
Originally posted by: bigpow
I heard LO battle animation is long and can't be skipped - that's the only thing preventing me from getting it.
ME on the other hand, is too linear - all the discussions and choices you make, won't affect the way the game is progressing.
Which RPG have you played?
I think you'd be able to decide based on your past experience.
For me, I've played Oblivion, Blue Dragon, & Eternal Sonata.
Blue Dragon was the best IMO. True classic and complete JRPG.
Originally posted by: R Nilla
Originally posted by: bigpow
I heard LO battle animation is long and can't be skipped - that's the only thing preventing me from getting it.
ME on the other hand, is too linear - all the discussions and choices you make, won't affect the way the game is progressing.
Which RPG have you played?
I think you'd be able to decide based on your past experience.
For me, I've played Oblivion, Blue Dragon, & Eternal Sonata.
Blue Dragon was the best IMO. True classic and complete JRPG.
I think it's a mistake to call ME linear. There is a predetermined narrative, so yes the main plot points are fairly clear/established (linear), but what you do along the way, how you get there, how those moments unfold as well as how the ending is presented certainly does change depending on what you do.
For the majority of the game you can go anywhere and do anything you like. During the middle (beef) of the game, the main quests can be visited in whichever order you choose (not to mention all the side quests that can be similarly thrown in along the way).
Some of the differences are more subtle/detailed rather than huge differing plot points, but anyone who has played the game can attest to the variety of playthrough possibilities.
Originally posted by: R Nilla
Originally posted by: bigpow
I heard LO battle animation is long and can't be skipped - that's the only thing preventing me from getting it.
ME on the other hand, is too linear - all the discussions and choices you make, won't affect the way the game is progressing.
Which RPG have you played?
I think you'd be able to decide based on your past experience.
For me, I've played Oblivion, Blue Dragon, & Eternal Sonata.
Blue Dragon was the best IMO. True classic and complete JRPG.
I think it's a mistake to call ME linear. There is a predetermined narrative, so yes the main plot points are fairly clear/established (linear), but what you do along the way, how you get there, how those moments unfold as well as how the ending is presented certainly does change depending on what you do.
For the majority of the game you can go anywhere and do anything you like. During the middle (beef) of the game, the main quests can be visited in whichever order you choose (not to mention all the side quests that can be similarly thrown in along the way).
Some of the differences are more subtle/detailed rather than huge differing plot points, but anyone who has played the game can attest to the variety of playthrough possibilities.
Originally posted by: CKDragon
Originally posted by: R Nilla
Originally posted by: bigpow
I heard LO battle animation is long and can't be skipped - that's the only thing preventing me from getting it.
ME on the other hand, is too linear - all the discussions and choices you make, won't affect the way the game is progressing.
Which RPG have you played?
I think you'd be able to decide based on your past experience.
For me, I've played Oblivion, Blue Dragon, & Eternal Sonata.
Blue Dragon was the best IMO. True classic and complete JRPG.
I think it's a mistake to call ME linear. There is a predetermined narrative, so yes the main plot points are fairly clear/established (linear), but what you do along the way, how you get there, how those moments unfold as well as how the ending is presented certainly does change depending on what you do.
For the majority of the game you can go anywhere and do anything you like. During the middle (beef) of the game, the main quests can be visited in whichever order you choose (not to mention all the side quests that can be similarly thrown in along the way).
Some of the differences are more subtle/detailed rather than huge differing plot points, but anyone who has played the game can attest to the variety of playthrough possibilities.
Yes, and (without spoiling anything) the decisions made during the climax of the game lead to VERY different endings. It makes me wonder if they'll pick a "right" ending that will potentially serve as the starting point of ME2 or if they'll try to work the ME2 story so that any ME1 ending will fit.
Originally posted by: bigpow
I heard LO battle animation is long and can't be skipped - that's the only thing preventing me from getting it.
ME on the other hand, is too linear - all the discussions and choices you make, won't affect the way the game is progressing.
Which RPG have you played?
I think you'd be able to decide based on your past experience.
For me, I've played Oblivion, Blue Dragon, & Eternal Sonata.
Blue Dragon was the best IMO. True classic and complete JRPG.
Originally posted by: ducci
Japanese RPGs are a dying breed. Get used to the Oblivion/Mass Effect style of game - they are here to stay.
Originally posted by: warcrow
Originally posted by: bigpow
I heard LO battle animation is long and can't be skipped - that's the only thing preventing me from getting it.
ME on the other hand, is too linear - all the discussions and choices you make, won't affect the way the game is progressing.
Which RPG have you played?
I think you'd be able to decide based on your past experience.
For me, I've played Oblivion, Blue Dragon, & Eternal Sonata.
Blue Dragon was the best IMO. True classic and complete JRPG.
Heh--wait a second:
What exactly are you referring to when you say "battle animation". As in, when they perform the move you've selected, or are you refering to the winning battle animations/ wrap up? The wrap up takes maybe 4-5 seconds, and that includes the loot screens and such. Are you really that pressed for time?
So ME is linear? Define "linear" please. I've played through the game twice. Once as a good guy (Paragon) and again as an evil guy (Renegade). I would hardly define both experiences as linear. I had many many situations between the two play-throughs that had completely different outcomes and effects, especially including the ending--it was far from linear. Also, the discussions and choices you make "dont effect the outcome"? What? Have you even played the game?
The end portion of the game itself has two sequences where you make choices and the choices that become available to you are completely dependent on what you have done up to that point. There are 3 or 4 endings (not sure on how many but I know there is multiple and atleast two).
Originally posted by: Xed
LO takes 5-7 or so seconds to load up the battle. While it's loading the camera will pan around the locale and then your chars and the fight begins. It's not staring at a black screen type loading.
Originally posted by: ducci
Japanese RPGs are a dying breed. Get used to the Oblivion/Mass Effect style of game - they are here to stay.
Originally posted by: bigpow
Originally posted by: warcrow
Originally posted by: bigpow
I heard LO battle animation is long and can't be skipped - that's the only thing preventing me from getting it.
ME on the other hand, is too linear - all the discussions and choices you make, won't affect the way the game is progressing.
Which RPG have you played?
I think you'd be able to decide based on your past experience.
For me, I've played Oblivion, Blue Dragon, & Eternal Sonata.
Blue Dragon was the best IMO. True classic and complete JRPG.
Heh--wait a second:
What exactly are you referring to when you say "battle animation". As in, when they perform the move you've selected, or are you refering to the winning battle animations/ wrap up? The wrap up takes maybe 4-5 seconds, and that includes the loot screens and such. Are you really that pressed for time?
So ME is linear? Define "linear" please. I've played through the game twice. Once as a good guy (Paragon) and again as an evil guy (Renegade). I would hardly define both experiences as linear. I had many many situations between the two play-throughs that had completely different outcomes and effects, especially including the ending--it was far from linear. Also, the discussions and choices you make "dont effect the outcome"? What? Have you even played the game?
The end portion of the game itself has two sequences where you make choices and the choices that become available to you are completely dependent on what you have done up to that point. There are 3 or 4 endings (not sure on how many but I know there is multiple and atleast two).
warcrow, I'm about to find out for myself.
I never said I played the game, I only said "I heard ..."
But thanks to your argument, I've purchased the game.
Hopefully it won't dissappoint.
Now my question to you, have you played any other RPG games (such as those I mentioned)? Maybe you would be kind enough to give a short comparison review.
LO is next on my list, I sure hope you guys know your RPG.
I'm always up to the challenge of "tasting" new RPG games.
Originally posted by: bigpow
Originally posted by: warcrow
Originally posted by: bigpow
I heard LO battle animation is long and can't be skipped - that's the only thing preventing me from getting it.
ME on the other hand, is too linear - all the discussions and choices you make, won't affect the way the game is progressing.
Which RPG have you played?
I think you'd be able to decide based on your past experience.
For me, I've played Oblivion, Blue Dragon, & Eternal Sonata.
Blue Dragon was the best IMO. True classic and complete JRPG.
Heh--wait a second:
What exactly are you referring to when you say "battle animation". As in, when they perform the move you've selected, or are you refering to the winning battle animations/ wrap up? The wrap up takes maybe 4-5 seconds, and that includes the loot screens and such. Are you really that pressed for time?
So ME is linear? Define "linear" please. I've played through the game twice. Once as a good guy (Paragon) and again as an evil guy (Renegade). I would hardly define both experiences as linear. I had many many situations between the two play-throughs that had completely different outcomes and effects, especially including the ending--it was far from linear. Also, the discussions and choices you make "dont effect the outcome"? What? Have you even played the game?
The end portion of the game itself has two sequences where you make choices and the choices that become available to you are completely dependent on what you have done up to that point. There are 3 or 4 endings (not sure on how many but I know there is multiple and atleast two).
warcrow, I'm about to find out for myself.
I never said I played the game, I only said "I heard ..."
But thanks to your argument, I've purchased the game.
Hopefully it won't dissappoint.
Now my question to you, have you played any other RPG games (such as those I mentioned)? Maybe you would be kind enough to give a short comparison review.
LO is next on my list, I sure hope you guys know your RPG.
I'm always up to the challenge of "tasting" new RPG games.