A while back there was a heated debate spanning a few online forums about the effectiveness of various fighting styles. It was a battle between believers of Asian martial arts and believers of MMA (mixed martial arts, mostly wresting/pounding/ground control and submission moves)
The Kung Fu camp believed in their teachings, that their technique can effectively stop attacks against them, and that muscle does not play too much of a part in it, and they'll easily handle any "thug". They are mostly trained in stand up fighting, believing that they can stop people from taking them down.
The MMA camp believed that you simply cannot stop someone from taking you down, and from there on it's all about ground control. They believe that muscle does play a large part, because someone with skill+muscle will always overpower someone with just skill. The are trained in ground control, striking, and submission moves.
The argument on those forums was much like the arguments on here, believers of both sides were arguing non-stop saying that they're right. The fans of the Eastern martial arts claimed that MMA fighters were just "thugs", brutes that they were trained to defeat. They thought their moves would work as advertised and that the muscular "thug" would go down as they were taught they would. The MMA side was claiming the Eastern martial arts is just a fancy art, that the moves are not powerful enough to be effective and they would quickly control someone like that.
After the argument went back and forth for quite a while, the two sides eventually nominated a trusted member of their respective camp to represent their fighting style in a fight that was scheduled. The Kung Fu artist was a highly trained fighter that was an instructor who ran a dojo, and the MMA guy was a muscular, physical fighter who was well versed in MMA.
They would videotape the meeting to settle once and for all which fighting style is dominant.
Here's the video of the meeting
You'll probably have to right click and "save as".
Edit: If that link doesn't work, just go to this link and click the first link right under the calendar on the left side of the screen.
The Kung Fu camp believed in their teachings, that their technique can effectively stop attacks against them, and that muscle does not play too much of a part in it, and they'll easily handle any "thug". They are mostly trained in stand up fighting, believing that they can stop people from taking them down.
The MMA camp believed that you simply cannot stop someone from taking you down, and from there on it's all about ground control. They believe that muscle does play a large part, because someone with skill+muscle will always overpower someone with just skill. The are trained in ground control, striking, and submission moves.
The argument on those forums was much like the arguments on here, believers of both sides were arguing non-stop saying that they're right. The fans of the Eastern martial arts claimed that MMA fighters were just "thugs", brutes that they were trained to defeat. They thought their moves would work as advertised and that the muscular "thug" would go down as they were taught they would. The MMA side was claiming the Eastern martial arts is just a fancy art, that the moves are not powerful enough to be effective and they would quickly control someone like that.
After the argument went back and forth for quite a while, the two sides eventually nominated a trusted member of their respective camp to represent their fighting style in a fight that was scheduled. The Kung Fu artist was a highly trained fighter that was an instructor who ran a dojo, and the MMA guy was a muscular, physical fighter who was well versed in MMA.
They would videotape the meeting to settle once and for all which fighting style is dominant.
Here's the video of the meeting
You'll probably have to right click and "save as".
Edit: If that link doesn't work, just go to this link and click the first link right under the calendar on the left side of the screen.
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