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Martha Stewart Promotes BMW, Forgets American

She has been promoting Chinese made products for years for a certain retail store, so this is like an upgrade. Germany = friend, China = potential adversary (reverse of the 1930s and 1940s).
 
alkalinetaupehat said:
It's not annoying, rather it saddens me. The United States is to the point where a Korean company is picked over an American company as a sponsor for one of the biggest national sports.
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I think Hyundai and Kia build most of their cars in Alabama....if im not mistaken....
 
The Boston Dangler said:
ford, gm and chrysler were free to outbid kia, you know. it's called capitalism.
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No wai!! It's only capitalism when America winzz.. otherwise it's terrorism!

On a serious note: Money talks, people and associations gets paid to advertise for a product....this is nothing new and it doesn't have anything to do with patriotism in any way.
 
alkalinetaupehat said:
It's not annoying, rather it saddens me. The United States is to the point where a Korean company is picked over an American company as a sponsor for one of the biggest national sports.
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You think national pride has ANYTHING to do with this or should? It all comes down to money, and money is what Kia pumped into the NBA for the "honor" of being the official car of the NBA and money is what Martha Stewart is getting paid by BMW to promote their cars.

Don't lose any sleep over it.

BTW-Jeff Bridges is hocking Hyundias in case you haven't noticed.
 
OP is clearly trolling. We have this conversation every couple of weeks and it never goes anywhere. We all know that American companies make their cars in Mexico or someplace else. Japanese and Korean cars sold here are probably built here. Ditto many European brands.

Is OP a RBM?
 
shortylickens said:
OP is clearly trolling. We have this conversation every couple of weeks and it never goes anywhere. We all know that American companies make their cars in Mexico or someplace else. Japanese and Korean cars sold here are probably built here. Ditto many European brands.

Is OP a RBM?
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Liar.

US car companies make their vehicles everywhere. Louisville. Chicago. Michigan. Canada. Mexico. South Africa. Thailand. China. England. Germany. Yugoslavia. Those are just the Ford locations.

The Japanese have started pulling production back to Japan, except for key markets like Texas where they need to keep the plant to push the sale of their items because they haven't caught on well.

Kia and other foreign makers have gotten hundreds of billions of tax-free promises to build here.

American cars are made everywhere. As are Japanese, Korean, Italian, German, etc. THAT is the simple truth of it. Every single one of those locations has been done for financial considerations, and for NO OTHER REASON. If an American company builds a plant here, it's because it's smart to do so. If a Japanese company builds a plant here, it's because it was smart (either socially to promote sales, or financially) to do so.

One of the only reasons I still feel the need to comment on conversations like this one is because of people like you who repeatedly twist the truth to try to make American companies look bad.
 
Pulsar said:
Liar.

US car companies make their vehicles everywhere. Louisville. Chicago. Michigan. Canada. Mexico. South Africa. Thailand. China. England. Germany. Yugoslavia. Those are just the Ford locations.

The Japanese have started pulling production back to Japan, except for key markets like Texas where they need to keep the plant to push the sale of their items because they haven't caught on well.

Kia and other foreign makers have gotten hundreds of billions of tax-free promises to build here.

American cars are made everywhere. As are Japanese, Korean, Italian, German, etc. THAT is the simple truth of it. Every single one of those locations has been done for financial considerations, and for NO OTHER REASON. If an American company builds a plant here, it's because it's smart to do so. If a Japanese company builds a plant here, it's because it was smart (either socially to promote sales, or financially) to do so.

One of the only reasons I still feel the need to comment on conversations like this one is because of people like you who repeatedly twist the truth to try to make American companies look bad.
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Both of you are absolutely incorrect. The economy is now a world economy, there is no such thing such as American or Foreign, all other things being equal when you compare the two.

Some manufacturers may have fewer international factories because they make fewer cars and serve fewer markets. The US corporations are the grand-daddy of the auto industry with market penetration in many markets. The same cannot be said for Tata, PSA or BYD/Chery/BMW or whatever else smaller manufacturer.

Let's compare similarly sized corporations

All are including wholly owned, subsidiary owned and JV facilities which employ people (warehousing, HQ, R&D and Manufacturing)

GM
Argentina (1)
Australia (3)
Belgium (1)
Brazil (3)
Canada (9)
Columbia (1)
Ecuador (1)
China (2)
Egypt (1)
France (1)
Germany (3)
Hungary (1)
Japan (4)
Mexico (3)
Poland (1)
Russia (1)
South Africa (1)
South Korea (3)
Spain (2)
Thailand (1)
United Kingdom (3)
United States ( don't even try to keep up with the constant idling, shutting down and reopening/expanding plants but there are a few large and many more small facilities)
Venezuela (1)
Vietnam (1)

Toyota
Argentina (1)
Australia (1)
Belgium (1)
Brazil (1)
Czech Republic (1)
Columbia (1)
Canada (4)
China (2)
France (2)
Germany (1)
India (1)
Indonesia (1)
Japan (16)
Mexico (1)
Pakistan (1)
Portugal (1)
Russia (1)
Thailand (3)
Turkey (1)
United Kingdom (1)
United States (10)
Vietnam (1)

Corporations have no national pride. They have no country of origin. Their only purpose is to survive and to make money. Buying a Camry or Highlander doesn't necessarily mean that the buyer supports our new japanese overlords, it means James in Buffalo, WV gets to bring some money home and go back tomorrow to assemble more automatic trans-axles. Nebulous modern accounting min combination with a world economy means that whether you buy a GM, VW or Toyota, your money goes to dozens of countries to support jobs and R&D.
 
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BMW has always been the it car for yuppie baby boomers. That's Martha's target audience. Not that there's anything wrong with them. Still, I'd take a Lincoln MKZ over a 323i.
 
mmntech said:
BMW has always been the it car for yuppie baby boomers. That's Martha's target audience. Not that there's anything wrong with them. Still, I'd take a Lincoln MKZ over a 323i.
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Thats probably because the 323 stinks. I'd take a 335 over either of them.
But I dont know if thats even in the same price range, so maybe its a bad comparison.
 
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