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Lola

Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Lola
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Lola

i TOTALLY disagree... not wanting children does not mean they are not responsible. What they think life is really about could be very different than what you think it is about. You cannot say that someones way of life is WRONG because they do not have kids.

why would you want to give kids to people that really do not want them?:confused:

It does mean that they are irresponsible though lola, at least they are not willing to take responsibilty and or welcome a major life changing event...I wonder what some of these people's attitudes would be should their birth control fail?

Not saying anyone's life is wrong for not having wanting kids, but it is pretty clear that they are not willing to take on the responsibility of raising a child.

If birth control fails and they have the baby:

(1) Hate the child for the rest of their life for "screwing this plans up"
(2) Fall in love with the child the instant they lay eyes on them

Most likely, I think it's going to be (2)

First off... there are MANY major life changing events that one goes through, not just having a child. , again, i stand to say that just because a couple does not want a child does not make them irresponsible. Irresponsible is not having a job, living with parents when you dont have to, blowing all ones money... i could go on and on...

You both are correct, there is always a chance that BC can fail, and honestly, i do not want to think about that at this point. I have my views and i really want them to be kept private as i have gone through certain things in my life.

But, if we did become pregnant, at this point, it would be a hard thing to do, but if we choose to not give the child up for adoption, of course I would love them more than anything.

I see many people who are almost upset at their children because they had them and they did "ruin" their lives, but each individual is different in life experiences.

You have views that you would rather stay private and I understand and appreciate that. But how a parent could be upset or mad at the child for coming into the world after not wanting any kids is beyond me. THEY are the ones that brought the child into the world. They have NO right to be pissed at anyone but themselves.

Children are just a natural occurence from having sex. Sometimes you get pregnant, sometimes you don't. Even with protection, you never know what could happen. Anytime you play with fire, you're bound to get burned...

The only difference is, I don't see getting "burned" as being a bad thing when it comes to children.
I take it you've never been burned then.

Ok, Ok, i never said i thought that when people are angry because they HAD to have the children, they were right in their thinking or feelings.

You are correct about being responsible enough to know what *could* happen when you have sex... i know what can happen, and i choose to accept that risk and have sex with my soon-to-be-husband. Things are never 100% we accept that.

I simply said, however, that i HAVE seen some people that are angry at the world for them having to have children when they knew there was risk envolved.
I saw how unhappy they are at themselves or resentful for having a baby... So, to bring it back to what was said, you should not say that "irresponsible" people are THE A, #1 people who should have kids just to make them responsible or teach them a lesson.

Personally, right now, we are only in our early/mid 20's and we are still establishing ourselves and our lives. I do not think we are selfish or irresponsible for thinking of ourselves now, i think it is better to have a secure environment before even thinking about bringing another person into this world.

In 2,3,4,5 years, maybe we will change our minds, it could happen, but right now, we are not equipt to have or handle a child... not that we do not want to, but we are in the middle of other "life changing events" :)
 

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Originally posted by: Lola
Originally posted by: Fritzo
People that feel like that are scared of change and basically don't want to grow up and get any kind of real responsibility. Couple like that are ones I WISH kids on to straighten them out and show them what life is really about.

i TOTALLY disagree... not wanting children does not mean they are not responsible. What they think life is really about could be very different than what you think it is about. You cannot say that someones way of life is WRONG because they do not have kids.

why would you want to give kids to people that really do not want them?:confused:

Because 99/100 times what is boils down to is the people that do not want them decide that because they want to keep up their material possessions and their "free" way of life. They do not want to live under rules and they want to be able to do anything they want. This is much the way an adolecent thinks. I stand by my statement: people that do not want children are afraid of real responsibility. This is a blanket statement and I know that this does not apply to every single case, but it's prevelent enough to be a rule of thumb.

Talk to someone in their 70's who chose not to have children- it's amazing the regret that they'll display. We had an old woman that lived behind us that adopted us as her familiy since she decided kids weren't for her. I can't tell you how many times she's told us how it was the worst choice she's ever made. Her husband died in his 60's and she was left alone- no kids, no grand kids, no holidays, nothing. It's really sad.
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: Lola
Personally, right now, we are only in our early/mid 20's and we are still establishing ourselves and our lives. I do not think we are selfish or irresponsible for thinking of ourselves now, i think it is better to have a secure environment before even thinking about bringing another person into this world.

In 2,3,4,5 years, maybe we will change our minds, it could happen, but right now, we are not equipt to have or handle a child... not that we do not want to, but we are in the middle of other "life changing events" :)
You know, THAT I agree with. I don't think that it's right to bring up a child in a situation where you cannot afford to raise one. You must have some kind of structure/support system in place already.

My parents waited until they were 30 before they had me. Of course, they waited until they were financially secure, both had well-paying jobs and a nice home to live in. Then they decided to have me :D

The thing is, I just can't understand how people so young can write off kids so quickly and used words like "never" "I hate them" "snotty brats, etc."

Ohh, and I don't remember saying anything about being irresponsible :confused:
 

OrByte

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lots of generalizations about all types of people in this thread but the bottom line is that we are all free to have babies or not. If you dont then great..more power to ya!

As long as you arent disrespecting my decision to love my kids I wont disrespect you when you want to love your...stuff?

 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: Lola
Originally posted by: Fritzo
People that feel like that are scared of change and basically don't want to grow up and get any kind of real responsibility. Couple like that are ones I WISH kids on to straighten them out and show them what life is really about.

i TOTALLY disagree... not wanting children does not mean they are not responsible. What they think life is really about could be very different than what you think it is about. You cannot say that someones way of life is WRONG because they do not have kids.

why would you want to give kids to people that really do not want them?:confused:

Because 99/100 times what is boils down to is the people that do not want them decide that because they want to keep up their material possessions and their "free" way of life. They do not want to live under rules and they want to be able to do anything they want. This is much the way an adolecent thinks. I stand by my statement: people that do not want children are afraid of real responsibility. This is a blanket statement and I know that this does not apply to every single case, but it's prevelent enough to be a rule of thumb.

Talk to someone in their 70's who chose not to have children- it's amazing the regret that they'll display. We had an old woman that lived behind us that adopted us as her familiy since she decided kids weren't for her. I can't tell you how many times she's told us how it was the worst choice she's ever made. Her husband died in his 60's and she was left alone- no kids, no grand kids, no holidays, nothing. It's really sad.



What's even sadder is seeing a 70 yr old rotting alone in a nursing home after a lifetime of putting the needs of a spouse and kids before their own.There's a whole lot of adult children out there who's interest in their elderly parents begins and ends with the signing
over of assets that allows the adult kid to dump the elderly parent into the nursing home and pocket the house and other assets.

 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: OrByte
As long as you arent disrespecting my decision to love my kids I wont disrespect you when you want to love your...stuff?

:laugh:
 

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
True, and a gay one at that.

Ahh, I get the gender/orientation/religion/etc. of all of these ATOT'ers mixed up. Guys posting with female Avatars, human sacrifice, dogs and cats, living together... mass hysteria!

ROTFLMAO!!!
 

Fritzo

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: Lola
Originally posted by: Fritzo
People that feel like that are scared of change and basically don't want to grow up and get any kind of real responsibility. Couple like that are ones I WISH kids on to straighten them out and show them what life is really about.

i TOTALLY disagree... not wanting children does not mean they are not responsible. What they think life is really about could be very different than what you think it is about. You cannot say that someones way of life is WRONG because they do not have kids.

why would you want to give kids to people that really do not want them?:confused:

Because 99/100 times what is boils down to is the people that do not want them decide that because they want to keep up their material possessions and their "free" way of life. They do not want to live under rules and they want to be able to do anything they want. This is much the way an adolecent thinks. I stand by my statement: people that do not want children are afraid of real responsibility. This is a blanket statement and I know that this does not apply to every single case, but it's prevelent enough to be a rule of thumb.

Talk to someone in their 70's who chose not to have children- it's amazing the regret that they'll display. We had an old woman that lived behind us that adopted us as her familiy since she decided kids weren't for her. I can't tell you how many times she's told us how it was the worst choice she's ever made. Her husband died in his 60's and she was left alone- no kids, no grand kids, no holidays, nothing. It's really sad.



What's even sadder is seeing a 70 yr old rotting alone in a nursing home after a lifetime of putting the needs of a spouse and kids before their own.There's a whole lot of adult children out there who's interest in their elderly parents begins and ends with the signing
over of assets that allows the adult kid to dump the elderly parent into the nursing home and pocket the house and other assets.

So you don't want to have children because you're afraid they'll reject you? :confused:

You get what you give...that situation isn't very common (that's why they make situations like that into movies on the Lifetime channel). If you give love, you're going to get love in return. If there is something in the child's life that gives undue stress, you're going to get stress in return. That simple.

 
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Lola

Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Lola
Personally, right now, we are only in our early/mid 20's and we are still establishing ourselves and our lives. I do not think we are selfish or irresponsible for thinking of ourselves now, i think it is better to have a secure environment before even thinking about bringing another person into this world.

In 2,3,4,5 years, maybe we will change our minds, it could happen, but right now, we are not equipt to have or handle a child... not that we do not want to, but we are in the middle of other "life changing events" :)
You know, THAT I agree with. I don't think that it's right to bring up a child in a situation where you cannot afford to raise one. You must have some kind of structure/support system in place already.

My parents waited until they were 30 before they had me. Of course, they waited until they were financially secure, both had well-paying jobs and a nice home to live in. Then they decided to have me :D

The thing is, I just can't understand how people so young can write off kids so quickly and used words like "never" "I hate them" "snotty brats, etc."

Ohh, and I don't remember saying anything about being irresponsible :confused:


Nope, you never said it! Some one else said it, i believe Frtizo.
I am not one of those that say NEVER, HATE, etc... right now, there are too many things happening in the natural progression of "growing up" that i am happy to do without having to worry about /properly bringing uptaking care of a little one. All things in due time!
NFS4, i do admire the comment about young people saying things about children, not many young people feel that way.
 

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Originally posted by: OrByte
lots of generalizations about all types of people in this thread but the bottom line is that we are all free to have babies or not. If you dont then great..more power to ya!

As long as you arent disrespecting my decision to love my kids I wont disrespect you when you want to love your...stuff?
Just don't bore me to death with stories about how little Jr. makes doo doo in his diapers or ask me to go watch a dreadful piano recitel your little bastard is playing in.

I can understand how people think their little kids are great but trust me, aside from you and your immediate family, most people would prefer if you kept them at home and out of our way.
 

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Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: Lola
Originally posted by: Fritzo
People that feel like that are scared of change and basically don't want to grow up and get any kind of real responsibility. Couple like that are ones I WISH kids on to straighten them out and show them what life is really about.

i TOTALLY disagree... not wanting children does not mean they are not responsible. What they think life is really about could be very different than what you think it is about. You cannot say that someones way of life is WRONG because they do not have kids.

why would you want to give kids to people that really do not want them?:confused:

Because 99/100 times what is boils down to is the people that do not want them decide that because they want to keep up their material possessions and their "free" way of life. They do not want to live under rules and they want to be able to do anything they want. This is much the way an adolecent thinks. I stand by my statement: people that do not want children are afraid of real responsibility. This is a blanket statement and I know that this does not apply to every single case, but it's prevelent enough to be a rule of thumb.

Talk to someone in their 70's who chose not to have children- it's amazing the regret that they'll display. We had an old woman that lived behind us that adopted us as her familiy since she decided kids weren't for her. I can't tell you how many times she's told us how it was the worst choice she's ever made. Her husband died in his 60's and she was left alone- no kids, no grand kids, no holidays, nothing. It's really sad.



What's even sadder is seeing a 70 yr old rotting alone in a nursing home after a lifetime of putting the needs of a spouse and kids before their own.There's a whole lot of adult children out there who's interest in their elderly parents begins and ends with the signing
over of assets that allows the adult kid to dump the elderly parent into the nursing home and pocket the house and other assets.

So you don't want to have children because you're afraid they'll reject you? :confused:

You get what you give...that situation isn't very common (that's why they make situations like that into movies on the Lifetime channel). If you give love, you're going to get love in return. If there is something in the child's life that gives undue stress, you're going to get stress in return. That simple.

Sorry but I disagree, I've seen never married single moms with chronic schizophrenia produce, successful,loving children and I've seen hard working, amazingly loving parents produce total human monsters.Nurture isn't all there is to the equation of what makes a decent human being and you never know at the start of a pregnancy what kind of kid you're going to be getting.


I still say that there is nothing at all wrong with the choice to remain childless, I think the world would be a much, much better place if more people were to make the choice to follow their own hearts and not give into the pressure to become parents when they aren't inclined or suited to the role.

 

RossMAN

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Originally posted by: Lola
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Lola
Personally, right now, we are only in our early/mid 20's and we are still establishing ourselves and our lives. I do not think we are selfish or irresponsible for thinking of ourselves now, i think it is better to have a secure environment before even thinking about bringing another person into this world.

In 2,3,4,5 years, maybe we will change our minds, it could happen, but right now, we are not equipt to have or handle a child... not that we do not want to, but we are in the middle of other "life changing events" :)
You know, THAT I agree with. I don't think that it's right to bring up a child in a situation where you cannot afford to raise one. You must have some kind of structure/support system in place already.

My parents waited until they were 30 before they had me. Of course, they waited until they were financially secure, both had well-paying jobs and a nice home to live in. Then they decided to have me :D

The thing is, I just can't understand how people so young can write off kids so quickly and used words like "never" "I hate them" "snotty brats, etc."

Ohh, and I don't remember saying anything about being irresponsible :confused:


Nope, you never said it! Some one else said it, i believe Frtizo.
I am not one of those that say NEVER, HATE, etc... right now, there are too many things happening in the natural progression of "growing up" that i am happy to do without having to worry about /properly bringing uptaking care of a little one. All things in due time!
NFS4, i do admire the comment about young people saying things about children, not many young people feel that way.

I'm curious what are your ages Lola and NFS4?
 
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Lola

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: Lola
Originally posted by: Fritzo
People that feel like that are scared of change and basically don't want to grow up and get any kind of real responsibility. Couple like that are ones I WISH kids on to straighten them out and show them what life is really about.

i TOTALLY disagree... not wanting children does not mean they are not responsible. What they think life is really about could be very different than what you think it is about. You cannot say that someones way of life is WRONG because they do not have kids.

why would you want to give kids to people that really do not want them?:confused:

Because 99/100 times what is boils down to is the people that do not want them decide that because they want to keep up their material possessions and their "free" way of life. They do not want to live under rules and they want to be able to do anything they want. This is much the way an adolecent thinks. I stand by my statement: people that do not want children are afraid of real responsibility. This is a blanket statement and I know that this does not apply to every single case, but it's prevelent enough to be a rule of thumb.

Talk to someone in their 70's who chose not to have children- it's amazing the regret that they'll display. We had an old woman that lived behind us that adopted us as her familiy since she decided kids weren't for her. I can't tell you how many times she's told us how it was the worst choice she's ever made. Her husband died in his 60's and she was left alone- no kids, no grand kids, no holidays, nothing. It's really sad.



What's even sadder is seeing a 70 yr old rotting alone in a nursing home after a lifetime of putting the needs of a spouse and kids before their own.There's a whole lot of adult children out there who's interest in their elderly parents begins and ends with the signing
over of assets that allows the adult kid to dump the elderly parent into the nursing home and pocket the house and other assets.

So you don't want to have children because you're afraid they'll reject you? :confused:

You get what you give...that situation isn't very common (that's why they make situations like that into movies on the Lifetime channel). If you give love, you're going to get love in return. If there is something in the child's life that gives undue stress, you're going to get stress in return. That simple.

I know there are exceptions to every rule, and i would like to mention one:
My grandmother had two sister, both younger that never married or had children. All three of them are now in their 80's. The two that never gave brith/got married, have much money that they give freely and lovingly to those lucky enough to be a part of their full lives. They have lived and loved so many generations of their family. They are old, but not regretful nor are they lonely due to the fact that they did not have any offspring.

They did not end up decrepid and angry at the world. They chose their lives and are enjoying life. They are lucky in the fact that they have a large family around them, i understand not all are like that, but they give and recieve love even if its not from their own children.
 
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Lola

Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: Lola
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Lola
Personally, right now, we are only in our early/mid 20's and we are still establishing ourselves and our lives. I do not think we are selfish or irresponsible for thinking of ourselves now, i think it is better to have a secure environment before even thinking about bringing another person into this world.

In 2,3,4,5 years, maybe we will change our minds, it could happen, but right now, we are not equipt to have or handle a child... not that we do not want to, but we are in the middle of other "life changing events" :)
You know, THAT I agree with. I don't think that it's right to bring up a child in a situation where you cannot afford to raise one. You must have some kind of structure/support system in place already.

My parents waited until they were 30 before they had me. Of course, they waited until they were financially secure, both had well-paying jobs and a nice home to live in. Then they decided to have me :D

The thing is, I just can't understand how people so young can write off kids so quickly and used words like "never" "I hate them" "snotty brats, etc."

Ohh, and I don't remember saying anything about being irresponsible :confused:


Nope, you never said it! Some one else said it, i believe Frtizo.
I am not one of those that say NEVER, HATE, etc... right now, there are too many things happening in the natural progression of "growing up" that i am happy to do without having to worry about /properly bringing uptaking care of a little one. All things in due time!
NFS4, i do admire the comment about young people saying things about children, not many young people feel that way.

I'm curious what are your ages Lola and NFS4?


I am 22. I know i am young. i know i do not know much about life, but i do know that i have been though many things and learned valuable lessons with each event. I am blessed now that i have been through what i have, eventhough most occurences were not necessarily "good". They all taught me something that i will take with me on the rest of my journey!
 

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Originally posted by: RossMAN
I'm curious what are your ages Lola and NFS4?

25 (damnit, am I really that old?:()

You are quickly becoming an old fart. I always thought you were 21-ish.

Next time I get an AARP recruitment card I'll send one to you and the misses ;)
 

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My contribution to social security in years to come thanks these child free people..


<--- 21 year old that will be working the rest of his life due to baby boomer retirement.
 

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I wonder why they feel they have to justify their decision by saying they don't want the nagging or distractions or spend any money? They went on TV to talk about it?


I'll tell you why: its the husband's way of convincing the wife that this dumb scheme is legit. Show her, "See, there are other easily manipulated women like you who actually buy this shit, honey". And I don't mean "dumb" as in everyone should have kids, I mean "dumb" in that who the hell cares about your family decisions? You don't really need a fvcking "lifestyle support group" to skip having kids.

You don't want kids? Then don't have them...but when you go on TV to show the world how "trendy" you are, it just makes it seem like you're just trying to convince YOURSELF.
 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: OrByte
lots of generalizations about all types of people in this thread but the bottom line is that we are all free to have babies or not. If you dont then great..more power to ya!

As long as you arent disrespecting my decision to love my kids I wont disrespect you when you want to love your...stuff?
Just don't bore me to death with stories about how little Jr. makes doo doo in his diapers or ask me to go watch a dreadful piano recitel your little bastard is playing in.

I can understand how people think their little kids are great but trust me, aside from you and your immediate family, most people would prefer if you kept them at home and out of our way.

I can only speak for myself when I say I don't throw pictures of my kids in everyones face. But I do love them, they are the MAIN part in my life. Thats the life I lead. If whats important to you is differnt then thats fine too (ahem go polish that Harely big-bad-boy!).

and I will keep my kids out of your way...they know better not to talk to strange smelly riff-raff with straggly beards. :p
 

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Originally posted by: hpkeeper
My contribution to social security in years to come thanks these child free people..


<--- 21 year old that will be working the rest of his life due to baby boomer retirement.

Well Guess what ? there's an whole lot of baby boomer parents who will also be working till the day they drop dead just to pay off the massive funding needed to put Gen X kiddies thru grad school.

Baby boomers-the generation who's children don't leave home till age 26 !
 

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Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
Originally posted by: kranky
I wonder why they feel they have to justify their decision by saying they don't want the nagging or distractions or spend any money? They went on TV to talk about it?


I'll tell you why: its the husband's way of convincing the wife that this dumb scheme is legit. Show her, "See, there are other easily manipulated women like you who actually buy this shit, honey". And I don't mean "dumb" as in everyone should have kids, I mean "dumb" in that who the hell cares about your family decisions? You don't really need a fvcking "lifestyle support group" to skip having kids.

You don't want kids? Then don't have them...but when you go on TV to show the world how "trendy" you are, it just makes it seem like you're just trying to convince YOURSELF.


The same could be said for the tons and tons and tons of parents blathering on in various magazines and TV shows.
 

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Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Just don't bore me to death with stories about how little Jr. makes doo doo in his diapers or ask me to go watch a dreadful piano recitel your little bastard is playing in.

I can understand how people think their little kids are great but trust me, aside from you and your immediate family, most people would prefer if you kept them at home and out of our way.

I can only speak for myself when I say I don't throw pictures of my kids in everyones face. But I do love them, they are the MAIN part in my life. Thats the life I lead. If whats important to you is differnt then thats fine too (ahem go polish that Harely big-bad-boy!).

and I will keep my kids out of your way...they know better not to talk to strange smelly riff-raff with straggly beards. :p
[/quote]On behalf of all strange smelly riff raff with straggly beards we thank you!:)

 

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Finally somebody who admits childless is a selfish decision, AND there is nothing wrong with that.
I didn't have kids til 35 and fully freely didn't want them in my 20's, I wasn't ready.

But the ones who come up with your nothing without children and the polar opposite who proclaim children are equivalent to a pox have both got it equally wrong.

Having children CAN be the most rewarding pinnacle of life, if your ready for it, or FRUSTRATING even if you are.
Not having children CAN be the biggest mistake of your life, cause you'll never understand something about being human.
If don't have the temperament for children, have the money for children, really are naccisitic, then your right ,YOUR life is going to be better without children.
The childrens life is going to be better without you as a parent too.

Problem is there is only a smaller window for women so if they chose wrong its more devastating for them than men, who can have kids much later. . . .
 

Buck Armstrong

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Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: NFS4
Reminds me of one of my favorite DMB songs. First of all, the meaning behind the song:
**Another Greed song, this deals with the wealth of persons and how in the end, he with the most toys still dies, so what is the point. But spiritual salvation is the key.**
This assumes belief in an afterlife, something many of us don't share.
Originally posted by: NFS4
What would you call marriage?
Cruel and unusual punishment, why?

You date the wrong girls then.
 

MAME

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Here's something I have to wonder. For married couples who DON'T want to have children and are COMPLETELY opposed to children, what about birth control? Surely, you guys are having sex. Unless you've got your tubes tied or the little "snip snip", I don't think that any birth control is 100%.

So what happens if you get pregnant? Abortion? Or do you have the baby?

abort it
have more sex
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