Married Couples Pay More Than Unmarried Under Health Bill

[Red Dawn]

Yes, and yes. Principle does not change if it benefits me personally, else theft would be moral. (Theft other than by government I mean.)

That this doesn't change your mind about whom who give your vote should make you wonder about your intelligence. You are voting for people who tell you they will harm you for another's benefit; should you then complain when they do exactly what they promise to do, take your money and give it to another?

SO who's he suppose to vote for, a Third Party?

 

[HumblePie]

Wow. Some of the responses in this thread make me /facepalm

Here it is, real simple like:

If two people cohabit, and they both work, their incomes are considered separately for subsidy purposes. If they decide to get married, their incomes are combined, and they actually receive less of a subsidy than they would if they remained unmarried and are PUNISHED for getting married because their combined incomes are considered one big income instead of two separate, smaller incomes.

How is that fair or equal? Gotta love the ones crying "Why should married couples get a break?! It's not fair!" when they are actually getting shafted for being married and two "single" people actually get the big breaks. The reality is, the single folks just want theres, and the married folks can go fly a kite, amirite?

It's simple, really: just more attacks on the institute of marriage and family. Break down the basic building block of society (the family), and you can break down and remold that society from its foundation on up. Brick by brick.

Lol!! we understand that currently in regards to healthcare that married couples will have a possible penalty because of combined incomes.

However, when people are talking about married couples getting breaks, we are talking in relation to TAXES. You know, something we all pay all the time? Right now, as of this moment, married couples pay less in taxes per each than they would if they were filing individually. Have a kid? Get some credit. Have some more kids? Get some more credits. The breaks and credits add up when you are married and filing jointly.

Personally I think it should be the same regardless.

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

There's a legitimate reason marriage has been incentivized for all these years.

Hint: it's not just random happenstance or "right-wing" favoritism.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

As usual the repubs resort to outright lies and disinformation to try and discredit the healthcare legislation.

The title of this post is blatantly false, although unmarried couples will recieve more subsidy from the government than married couple, THEY WILL PAY MORE net out of pocket for health insurance than the married couple.

They convieniently forget to mention that the premiums for two individual single policies will be substantially higher than the married couples premiums. The increased subsidy from the government will not offset the higher costs of the individual policies and the unmarried couple will pay more out of pocket than the married couple.

 

[Patranus]

But....but...but....he said he wouldn't raise taxes on those making under $250,000....If I make under $250,000 do I still have to pay?

 

[GuitarDaddy]

But....but...but....he said he wouldn't raise taxes on those making under $250,000....If I make under $250,000 do I still have to pay?

If you don't understand the difference between income taxes and insurance subsidies then the complexities of national health care are well beyond your comprehension.

 

[Zargon]

Lol!! we understand that currently in regards to healthcare that married couples will have a possible penalty because of combined incomes.

However, when people are talking about married couples getting breaks, we are talking in relation to TAXES. You know, something we all pay all the time? Right now, as of this moment, married couples pay less in taxes per each than they would if they were filing individually. Have a kid? Get some credit. Have some more kids? Get some more credits. The breaks and credits add up when you are married and filing jointly.

Personally I think it should be the same regardless.

maybe its because those married couples tend to have more kids which in turn grow up to pay more taxes?

my parents had 3 kids, all who have actual jobs and pay a real amount of taxes, so my parents got a break for producing 3 new taxes sources

doesnt that seem remotely legit? reward and activity that tends to benefit you in the long run?

 

[werepossum]

SO who's he suppose to vote for, a Third Party?

Ideally I would suggest a party that does not favor redistribution of wealth. Practically speaking he'll have to hold his nose and vote for the lesser evil like all of us. Well, not those of you with 'Democrat' stamped on the brain, I suppose. But electing those for wealth redistribution will inevitably result in your wealth being redistributed. There is no free lunch; there is no magic cupboard.

 

[Carmen813]

Ideally I would suggest a party that does not favor redistribution of wealth. Practically speaking he'll have to hold his nose and vote for the lesser evil like all of us. Well, not those of you with 'Democrat' stamped on the brain, I suppose. But electing those for wealth redistribution will inevitably result in your wealth being redistributed. There is no free lunch; there is no magic cupboard.

All government tax and financial policy is wealth redistribution. It doesn't matter if there is a (D), (I) or (R) after the name.

 

[Vic]

People who get their health insurance through an employer wouldn't be affected. Only people that buy subsidized insurance through new exchanges set up by the legislation stand to be impacted.

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[ebaycj]

Right, we all know that although the Democrats took the trouble to write it into the bill, it will never happen. It's a well known tactic that goes all the way back to Prohibition. "The Democrat Party is in favor of laws prohibiting the manufacture and sale of alcohol. However we are against their enforcement." And as Robor indicated, it's perfectly okay to discriminate against individuals as long as they don't compose a sizable group.

Married couples who both work paid higher taxes until the Republicans took Congress in '94. This is because Democrats look at all money as first belonging to Government, whose bureaucrats then decide what you need. This is just another step toward restoring the proper relationship between Government and citizen in the world according to Democrats. Just when the Republicans convince me they are just as bad, the Democrats put on a push and pull out ahead again.

Dude, you live in Tennessee. My tax dollars are being redistributed to your state and you have the gall to talk about "all money first belonging to the government"

Ownage.

 

[ebaycj]

Wow. Some of the responses in this thread make me /facepalm

Here it is, real simple like:

If two people cohabit, and they both work, their incomes are considered separately for subsidy purposes. If they decide to get married, their incomes are combined, and they actually receive less of a subsidy than they would if they remained unmarried and are PUNISHED for getting married because their combined incomes are considered one big income instead of two separate, smaller incomes.

How is that fair or equal? Gotta love the ones crying "Why should married couples get a break?! It's not fair!" when they are actually getting shafted for being married and two "single" people actually get the big breaks. The reality is, the single folks just want theres, and the married folks can go fly a kite, amirite?

It's simple, really: just more attacks on the institute of marriage and family. Break down the basic building block of society (the family), and you can break down and remold that society from its foundation on up. Brick by brick.

Yes, That's it. You are being oppressed by the tyranny of the "singles" majority.

 

[palehorse]

You would think Republicans would like this since it encourages couples to get married. Well, as long as they aren't gay. Can't have that.

umm, no. It has the exact opposite effect.

 

[palehorse]

Its about time married couples stop getting tax breaks. Why do you need a tax break if you have a kid? No, everyone pays equal in taxes. Start giving married couples special treatment and you'll get more octomoms popping up left and right.

Should that also apply to families on welfare who get more money for each and every new kid they spit out?

 

[Zebo]

I hope you have no arms in your house. You sound about one "you pay" off from going postal. Death and taxes - deal with it - anybody smart doesn't complain.

 

[Zebo]

Gay people are going to have to rethink this marriage thing.

Yea just like he said he'd address DADT. and didnt..I knew Obama was anti gay too. This is a uh no pun intended, backdoor way to no gay marriage amendment. :hmm:

BlackBush. or Bush 3.0

 

[Zebo]

Cool story bro

You understood it? I marvel at your ephonics.

 

[rudder]

Dude, you live in Tennessee. My tax dollars are being redistributed to your state and you have the gall to talk about "all money first belonging to the government"

OWNAGE!

Oh and btw... Interstate 40, Interstate 24, and Interstate 65 are now closed to anyone but Tennessee residents.

Since people are getting upset that we here use federal money to maintain a system the whole nation uses. If you have issues with it... take it up with your Senator. I mean look at Nebraska... their senator got a break.

 

[Steeplerot]

Poor whitey, entitled to so much, yet the big bad black man makes you pay taxes, aww.