Mario Lemeuix not playing?

speg

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Bah, I've always hated this guy and would have perfered that he stayed in retirement. So he's going to play for Team Canada, great maybe, just maybe this will be a good thing. And now he's not playing? WTH is that? Watch them end up losing and use this as a scapegoat. Grr... this guy is a arrogant POS!!
 

Soulflare

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Who was a scratch in game 1?

Funny how Nolan, McInnis and Yzerman all pledged that they definitely wouldn't go to the
Olympics if their injuries might prevent them from playing... and then the *team captain*
finds out he has to sit out a game or two just like he'd been doing for the past month in
the NHL.
 

CKDragon

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I've never been a big Mario fan myself. Ever since he used to rip on the league saying the style had changed too much. I always thought that was such a cop-out. Things change, deal with it. Don't sit out and whine about it.

CK
 

Soulflare

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No one was scratched for game 1 since they dressed all 13 forwards... so hopefully no
else will get hurt or we'll have to start double-shifting someone... or move Jovanovski
up to the wing on the 4th line.
 

Triumph

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<< I've never been a big Mario fan myself. Ever since he used to rip on the league saying the style had changed too much. I always thought that was such a cop-out. Things change, deal with it. Don't sit out and whine about it.

CK
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He was pissed off because the league changed in favor of big brutish guys instead of actual hockey SKILL, which he has more of than any other person alive. Greatest hockey player ever, despite Gretzky having bigger numbers.
*edit* for wording.
 

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<<

<< I've never been a big Mario fan myself. Ever since he used to rip on the league saying the style had changed too much. I always thought that was such a cop-out. Things change, deal with it. Don't sit out and whine about it.

CK
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He was pissed off because the league changed in favor of big brutish guys instead of actual hockey SKILL, which he has more of than any other person alive. Greatest hockey player ever, despite Gretzky having bigger numbers.
*edit* for wording.
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He bit back at the hand that fed him for a long time and still feeds him to this day... I'm sure other older players felt the same, Gretzky included. Thing is they went and became solid ambassadors for the game. Lemeiux took a shot at it.

CK
 

murphy55d

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First off, I am as big of a hockey fan as you'll find. I've always liked Lemieux, though not a Penguins fan. It is my belief he is the best player ever, as in most talented, but not "greatest". Anyone who argues anyone was "GREATER" than Gretzky, is kidding themselves. Nobody did more for the game and had a bigger impact.

Lately though, it seems he is always hurt. And it's NOT his back. I don't think he should have agreed to play in the Olympics, with him being hurt, and really not having that great of a season when he was healthy. Joe Thornton should absolutely be there, and if Lemieux is not healthy enough to play, then Thornton SHOULD BE. Period. I'm not Canadian, but if you want the best group of players out there right now, that's what you need to do.

It seems to me like he's starting to ruin his legacy...last year he was spectacular for being off so long, but now it looks like he's barely hanging on.
 

b0mbrman

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They're not rotating enough...If you stay on the ice for that long, you can bet you're gonna get tired.
 

Triumph

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<< First off, I am as big of a hockey fan as you'll find. I've always liked Lemieux, though not a Penguins fan. It is my belief he is the best player ever, as in most talented, but not "greatest". Anyone who argues anyone was "GREATER" than Gretzky, is kidding themselves. Nobody did more for the game and had a bigger impact.
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I think you've got a good point there. True, Gretzky holds all the records and is "the" name in hockey, but Lemiuex was magic to watch on the ice. I'm not exactly sure why he never got to the same status as Gretzky. Course I was young when Gretzky was all that and I didn't pay much attention to hockey then.
 

murphy55d

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<<

<< First off, I am as big of a hockey fan as you'll find. I've always liked Lemieux, though not a Penguins fan. It is my belief he is the best player ever, as in most talented, but not "greatest". Anyone who argues anyone was "GREATER" than Gretzky, is kidding themselves. Nobody did more for the game and had a bigger impact.
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I think you've got a good point there. True, Gretzky holds all the records and is "the" name in hockey, but Lemiuex was magic to watch on the ice. I'm not exactly sure why he never got to the same status as Gretzky. Course I was young when Gretzky was all that and I didn't pay much attention to hockey then.
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It's all about stats. Lemieux had injury problems throughout his career, he did not play in a "MAJOR" market like Gretzky (as in Los Angeles and then New York, compared to Pittsburgh..EDM was not a major market), Lemieux did not have near the talent around him. When Gretz was playing with the likes of Kurri and friends, Lemieux had Rob Brown, Troy Loney and Warren Young. You do the math. Obviously once Jagr, Recchi, etc came around, he had people to play with, but by then Hodgkins was taking a huge effect. Mario scored 199 pts with Robbie Brown and Warren Young. That is simply amazing. Gretzky had 212(i think) playing on the talent filled Oilers.

I don't like to play the IF game, but if you put these 2 on an even playing field, a healthy Lemieux would have just as many if not more points than Gretzky. Just my 2 cents.