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MARINES CHARGED IN CAPITOL RIOT GOT HIGHLY SENSITIVE SPY JOBS AFTER JAN. 6

Do those men believe the 2020 election was stolen?
The context of who they are and what they believe, matters.

And if the higher ups don't "get it", then they too were part of the attempted coup.
This begs a larger question.

What place, in our society, do Republicans belong? Those who view news as fake, science as fake, law and order, voting and elections... all fake. People who firmly believe our Democracy is dead and that they have a duty to "save" it by extreme action. By assaulting Congress and the peaceful transfer of power. Their core belief system is the antithesis of a civil society. They want lawlessness and bloodshed on our streets, all so they can balm a bruised ego. All so they can seize power by force.

They are not actively engaged in violence, that we know of, but we know the end game. The goal they hope to achieve, that they would use their positions to work towards.
Is this acceptable or not?
If not... how do we respond, how do we act to prevent the ascension of their madness into positions where they can cause greater harm? Where they can throw wrenches into government and military agencies meant to keep us safe and functional? Men in position with the intent to harm us is how you get an effective coup. They must be thwarted.
 
Clearly, we need Republicans who will halt efforts to remove right wing extremists in the military under the guise of...

anti-woke.
 
My how times have changed. I recall how four Marines rented a house down the street from where I live. About 2AM one morning one of them got stupid drunk and proceeded to knock down quite a few mailboxes up and down the street. Well, calls went out to the Marine Commandant and a couple of days later those Marines were ordered to visit every house on the block and apologize for their conduct unbecoming and I was led to understand that those Marines were also ordered to arrange for repairs and replacement of the damaged mailboxes to the owner's satisfaction. An investigation was also started by the USPS into the incident of which our Neighborhood association was contacted for information regarding those owners who were affected by the incident and given options as to what recourse the owners may take up to and including prosecuting the Marines under federal statute.

All of the affected owners refused to press charges after apologies were given.
 
tweaker2 said:
My how times have changed. I recall how four Marines rented a house down the street from where I live. About 2AM one morning one of them got stupid drunk and proceeded to knock down quite a few mailboxes up and down the street. Well, calls went out to the Marine Commandant and a couple of days later those Marines were ordered to visit every house on the block and apologize for their conduct unbecoming and I was led to understand that those Marines were also ordered to arrange for repairs and replacement of the damaged mailboxes to the owner's satisfaction. An investigation was also started by the USPS into the incident of which our Neighborhood association was contacted for information regarding those owners who were affected by the incident and given options as to what recourse the owners may take up to and including prosecuting the Marines under federal statute.

All of the affected owners refused to press charges after apologies were given.
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Yeah, fucking with the mail in most any way is a federal offense. When some circular spammer puts something in your mailbox on his own, that's a federal offense! You can't even leave a note for a neighbor IN their mailbox.
 
Perknose said:
Yeah, fucking with the mail in most any way is a federal offense. When some circular spammer puts something in your mailbox on his own, that's a federal offense! You can't even leave a note for a neighbor IN their mailbox.
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I think you can if you affix the proper first class postage in stamps on it.
 
PS: I don't think Republicans take the Jan 6 thingi as anything but patriotism. What decent Marine wouldn't want to overthrow a US government that had become evil. What patriot wouldn't resist brainwashing that told him that evil was actually good. Like the guy that took a hammer t Mr. Pelosi, you learn from not being really prepared. I am sure lots of prep is being done to insure that it's the Marine Corps itself that shows up next time.
 
Moonbeam said:
PS: I don't think Republicans take the Jan 6 thingi as anything but patriotism. What decent Marine wouldn't want to overthrow a US government that had become evil. What patriot wouldn't resist brainwashing that told him that evil was actually good. Like the guy that took a hammer t Mr. Pelosi, you learn from not being really prepared. I am sure lots of prep is being done to insure that it's the Marine Corps itself that shows up next time.
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"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
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I often wonder if those insurrectionists who were active duty military acted under the belief that they were honoring their oaths...defending against a domestic enemy...but, IMO, they instead BECAME said domestic enemies by acting against the Constitution.
 
Perknose said:
Well, that, and all the folks clubbing police and desecrating the place were white. Let's face it, if a group of blacks tried that, they'd have been gunned down.
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Apparently they don't meet the definition of Patriot. I think the only time they are patriots is when one is your medic trying to keep you from bleeding out.
 
BoomerD said:
I often wonder if those insurrectionists who were active duty military acted under the belief that they were honoring their oaths...defending against a domestic enemy...but, IMO, they instead BECAME said domestic enemies by acting against the Constitution.
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Personally I don't think they have anything like an organized belief. I think it more likely they respond to their lizard brain which is what soldiers are conditioned to do in my opinion. I think it never occurs to them that their leaders may actually think any differently, and likely, often enough, with good reason.
 
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