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Marine didn't know that the marines kill people

Marines don't kill people, guns do.
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- M4H
 
"They don't really advertise that they kill people," Funk said. "I didn't really realize the full implications of what I was doing and what it really meant to be in the service as a reservist."
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What a moron. :disgust:
 
While he is a complete idiot for not realizing that, at least he's not shipping out into a combat zone. I'd be pissed off if some idiot like that was watching my back. Let him clean the head for the rest of his time in.
 
Give the guy a fvcking break. He doesn't want to kill people, he's going through the proper legal process, and his absence in Iraq isn't going to cost us the war.
 
i heard in interview with this kid...sounded like a complete flamer...he blamed it all on the recruiter...I wanted to reach through the radio and beat him
 
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
"They don't really advertise that they kill people," Funk said. "I didn't really realize the full implications of what I was doing and what it really meant to be in the service as a reservist."
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What a moron. :disgust:
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Absolutely. What the fork did he think the US military does? It's not like he joined the French army..
 
Originally posted by: notfred
Give the guy a fvcking break. He doesn't want to kill people, he's going through the proper legal process, and his absence in Iraq isn't going to cost us the war.
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If he didnt want to kill people he should have joined as a mail clerk or something. He could still do his part and get benefits without killing. Hes an idiot.
 
I was in the Army, and I have NEVER "wanted" to kill anyone. However, I KNEW what the Army did, and was prepared to kill if need be.

The point is, you don't need to "want" to kill people to be a soldier. But you do need to know what a soldier's mission is.

BTW, this reminds me of the idiots who whined about being sent to fight because they "only joined the army to get money for college."
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Originally posted by: notfred
Give the guy a fvcking break. He doesn't want to kill people, he's going through the proper legal process, and his absence in Iraq isn't going to cost us the war.
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notfred, it's absence "from" Iraq.
 
Originally posted by: notfred
Give the guy a fvcking break. He doesn't want to kill people, he's going through the proper legal process, and his absence in Iraq isn't going to cost us the war.
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Oh, I agree he has the right to seek discharge. More power to him, and at least he didn't get into combat and then decide he couldn't kill. But the thing that makes him an idiot is the fact that he says he didn't realize killing people would be part of his job when he signed up. Either he's ignorant or he's an idiot. How can you join the military and NOT think you might have to kill someone?

And what the hell is this crap:

Teresa Panepinto of the Central Committee for Conscientious Objectors in Oakland, which runs the hot line, says in today's mostly volunteer military there is "economic conscription" as young people join the forces for job skills or tuition -- not to fight wars.

"The ads for the military are sold as a scholarship tool. There is no footage of combat," she said. "It is a real bait-and-switch that is costing young people their lives."
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You're joining the MILITARY. Unless you're French, that means you might be expected to kill other human beings.
 
Originally posted by: notfred
Give the guy a fvcking break. He doesn't want to kill people, he's going through the proper legal process, and his absence in Iraq isn't going to cost us the war.
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Why would you join the marines if you have a problem with killing people? What do Marines do?

Maybe he should've joined the Coast Guard...
 
Originally posted by: notfred
Give the guy a fvcking break. He doesn't want to kill people, he's going through the proper legal process, and his absence in Iraq isn't going to cost us the war.
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i understand what he's saying that killing is against his beliefs and all, but you can't join the marines and expect to NOT have to kill at some time or another...he got all the benefits without holding up his end of the bargain...

 
well not knowing that marines killed people sounds dumb,
he just should've gone out saying that he disagrees with the war. I thought the army had a clause that every soldier can disobey an order if it goes against his/hger conscience
 
Originally posted by: halik
well not knowing that marines killed people sounds dumb,
he just should've gone out saying that he disagrees with the war. I thought the army had a clause that every soldier can disobey an order if it goes against his/hger conscience
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yeh i think the article mentions that if you have some sort of religious or some view against war or something there are some avenues you can take to stay out of it...but still, being in the marines would be like the boy scouts??
 
Sounds like a candidate for a Dishonorable Discharge. The idea of "conscientious objector" was designed for people who were drafted. No one who voluntarily enlists should be allowed to claim that status.
 
Funk is one of several service members in today's volunteer military who are seeking conscientious objector status.

The recruits say their idealistic expectations of military service -- travel, tuition and adventure -- jarred against the harsh realities of killing another human and ran afoul of deeply held religious, ethical or moral views.

"They don't really advertise that they kill people," Funk said. "I didn't really realize the full implications of what I was doing and what it really meant to be in the service as a reservist."
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Honestly, I'm glad this guy isn't fighting. He's too damn stupid for me to want him on a battlefield armed with a weapon.

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I am a marine and there is no way you cannot know buy the 4th week of boot camp what the mission is of the marines. You are told that every one in the Marines is a basic infantry. You also go over the mission of the Marine corp. on top of everything you go and shoot at targets that are shaped like a human. You all so go to a combat school that every marine goes to that teach you how fight will all the small arms in the Marines and how to do hand to hand combat. This to me sound like he never though he would go to war, so he joined up for all the benefits, but now that its time to go to war he doesn?t want to. I know at my unit we were told that if you object to killing then tell us now not once a war starts. He knew what was happening all along. i dont have an issue with him objecting but i do with the way it was done. he had plenty of time to say that he objected and he waited until the unit had left before he did. thats the part that burns me :disgust:
 
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